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France says it’s ‘firmly opposed’ to Israel boycott (Original Post) shira Jun 2015 OP
ADL: Orange Boycott 'Cowardly' shira Jun 2015 #1
if only supporting oppression were as illegal as opposing it Scootaloo Jun 2015 #6
Yeah, I'm against supporting Hamas aggression vs. their own civilians.... shira Jun 2015 #13
But you support Israel obliterating those same people Scootaloo Jun 2015 #19
Nah, I support Israel's right to defend its civilians from Hamas aggression shira Jun 2015 #20
Good shenmue Jun 2015 #2
Yay for the occupation. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #3
Israel and the KSA agreeing on the Saudi Peace Initiative is scary, huh? shira Jun 2015 #4
Major settlement blocs to Israel won't leave the Palestinians with a viable state. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #5
Didn't you know? Shira thinks Saudi Arabia is the newest liberal Democracy in the world Scootaloo Jun 2015 #7
Yep, they turned over a whole new leaf. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #8
if DU had been around in the 80's... Scootaloo Jun 2015 #9
So you don't support pursuing the Saudi Peace Initiative? shira Jun 2015 #16
Saudi Arabia has recently advertised for executioners. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #11
8 new openings..Cheney could apply, I bet it would be a good fit for him. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #12
All of a sudden you guys are against the Saudi plan? shira Jun 2015 #15
Nonsense. The Clinton plan, Geneva Initiative, Olmert plan.... shira Jun 2015 #14
You never tire of spreading nonsense, evidently. I already told you what the Arab Initiative Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #17
You're for a never-ending occupation when u reject land swaps.... shira Jun 2015 #18
Meh, hopefully they'll come around. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #10
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
1. ADL: Orange Boycott 'Cowardly'
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jun 2015

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) on Friday strongly objected to the decision by French telecom company Orange S.A. to eventually end its business relationship with an Israeli company, calling the move a “cowardly” and “completely unjustified” caving-in to anti-Israel boycott demands.

“Orange took a cowardly decision to cave into demands by the international campaign to boycott Israel,” said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. “Orange has subsidiaries which operate in disputed territories elsewhere in the world, so this decision is not about the West Bank, but about Israel and the campaign to delegitimize the Jewish state.”

In a letter to Gerard Araud, the French Ambassador in Washington, D.C., the ADL urged the French government, a significant shareholder of Orange S.A. with representation on the company’s board of directors, to make clear that complying with demands to boycott Israel are illegal under French law and contrary to the country’s national interests and moral values.

Speaking in Cairo, Orange CEO Stephane Richard reportedly said the telecom company wants “to be one of the trustful partners of all Arab countries” and does not believe the deal – a brand licensing agreement with an Israeli company, Partner - was worth “the time that we spend to explain this, to try to find a solution and the consequences that we have to manage here but also in France.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/196333#.VXH9Z1xViko

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. if only supporting oppression were as illegal as opposing it
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:24 PM
Jun 2015

But then, the powerful will always support violence against the powerless, and oppose any rectification of hte injustice. For how else do the powerful become so?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. Yeah, I'm against supporting Hamas aggression vs. their own civilians....
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jun 2015

Like the women, children, christians, and children of Gaza.

How about yourself?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
19. But you support Israel obliterating those same people
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jun 2015

Should Hamas convert to Judaism? 'Cause that seems to be the deciding factor for you whether someone is right or wrong.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
20. Nah, I support Israel's right to defend its civilians from Hamas aggression
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:40 PM
Jun 2015

I know that's terrible to many folks who don't believe Israel's citizens have any right to be defended by fascist oppressors (Hamas, Islamic Jihad) intending to massacre the Jews.

The same fascist oppressive Gaza leadership that can do no wrong when they abuse women, children, and gays.

Apparently it's too Zionist to criticize the Gaza leadership because their oppressive & brutal rule is okay so long as Israel cannot be blamed.


 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. Israel and the KSA agreeing on the Saudi Peace Initiative is scary, huh?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jun 2015

Wouldn't want the occupation to end...

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. Major settlement blocs to Israel won't leave the Palestinians with a viable state.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jun 2015

Won't matter what lipstick you try and advertise it as, and lets remember the
rulers of SA do not give a damn about their own peoples human rights nor
self determination..and they're in a weak position now and have been for
awhile. They have much on their plate and have no fucking clue how to
clean up their own mess. They're not worried about the Palestinians.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. Didn't you know? Shira thinks Saudi Arabia is the newest liberal Democracy in the world
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jun 2015

Because it's getting snuggly with Israel, it must be so!

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Yep, they turned over a whole new leaf.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jun 2015

More to come, I am sure..can't wait to see how this latest is packaged.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. if DU had been around in the 80's...
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jun 2015

You would have seen Shira telling us how awesome South Africa is because israel supported it and becuase malawi had a worse economy.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. So you don't support pursuing the Saudi Peace Initiative?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jun 2015

Support for that doesn't equate to support for the KSA.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Saudi Arabia has recently advertised for executioners.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:35 PM
Jun 2015

The current executioners are probably suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome because of all the beheadings. That and the tennis elbow from the floggings.

Will Saudi Arabia join Israel on the list of "Middle Eastern democracies"?


In case any here feel I was joking about the job posting:
http://time.com/3883537/saudi-arabia-job-post-executioners/

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
15. All of a sudden you guys are against the Saudi plan?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jun 2015

Gee, why would that be?

You'd have to stop bitching about Zionist oppression, occupation, and settlements?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
14. Nonsense. The Clinton plan, Geneva Initiative, Olmert plan....
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jun 2015

...all would leave Palestinians with a viable state.

You say you're against the occupation and settlements, but all I see is your rejection of the Palestinians having their own state.

Has it been worth it for the Palestinians to have rejected the Clinton Initiatives of 2000? I say they should have accepted, there'd be peace, and 2 states, no occupation or settlements.

How about yourself? Pro- or anti- occupation regarding the Clinton plan?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. You never tire of spreading nonsense, evidently. I already told you what the Arab Initiative
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:30 AM
Jun 2015

changed about land swaps, that happened within the last two years..approximately.

Major settlement blocs to Israel will leave them without a viable state.

Never mind all the other means Israel will use to keep them demilitarized, because, hey..they're
not to be trusted but Israel can be.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
18. You're for a never-ending occupation when u reject land swaps....
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jun 2015

You know full well Israel will never agree to abandon every last settlement & withdraw to exact '67 lines.

That's a very extreme position.

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