Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumNo way to defeat Jewish terrorism without ending the occupation
The defining characteristic of the occupation is that it includes two civilian populations living alongside one another, which are subject to two different legal systems. The Palestinians live under a military regime, while every Israeli who lives or even visits the settlements brings the Israeli law with them, including all the legal protections she or he is granted.
The second defining characteristic of the occupation is the Israeli desire to slowly expand the territory and resources for the Jewish public, while slowly lessening Palestinians territory. This combination a military regime with civilian settlement is what causes the Israeli occupation to look and feel a lot like colonialism or apartheid, even if there is not an exact overlap. This is the essence of the regime, regardless of the question of whether or not this is our forefathers land, or who was here first.
Colonialism always goes hand-in-hand with racism, and extreme racism is always accompanied by violence. Even if the original motivation that brings about a colonial situation is not racist, at a certain point the ruling group must somehow justify its own privileges, which inevitably leads to racist worldviews. For example, that the occupied population is not ready to have all their rights, or that it is inherently weak and violent; that it doesnt appreciate life as we do; that it prefers to live in close, dirty quarters, etc. The struggle against racism in Israel to the degree that it even exists will fail as long as the occupation exists, since we will always need racism in order to justify the occupation.
BillZBubb
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(3,967 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)there will always be dimestore hasbarists that will poorly attempt to tapdance around that topic.
BillZBubb
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(3,967 posts)i just said people are entitled to their opinions, and i stand by that statement.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)You could have as easily stated that water is wet and achieved the same effect.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And you thought we needed to read that BECAUSE...?
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Ken Burch
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(50,254 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)You seem to go back and forth on this.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Stick to defending lion murderers.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)"Jewish terrorism" is not synonymous with "Judaism". For that matter, Zionism is not synonymous with Judaism. One isa manifestation of extremism in a community, one is a set of related but not identical ethnic, cultural, and religious values that are often in deep tension and conflict with each other, and one is nothing more than an already-triumphant nationalist movement.
You're a better person than to be making insinuations like you just did.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)still remain where they are.
I personally think that the two-state solution is less likely, as it would entail not only an end to the occupation, but the removal of more than 500 k settlers. The current status quo only serves to make the one-state solution more inevitable.