Gaza kids say they aspire to ‘blow up the Jews’

[shira]

WATCH: Hamas-run TV station interviews two young boys who want to wage jihad against Israel when they grow up

http://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-kids-say-they-aspire-to-blow-up-the-jews/

Palestinian children in Gaza recently participated in a kids’ TV show and expressed their desire to join the military wing of the Hamas organization in order to wage jihad and “blow up the Jews.”

The September 4 segment, aired on the Hamas-owned al-Aqsa TV channel, showed two young boys dressed in military fatigues who were asked what they wanted to be when they grew up.

One of the children, Zakariya, said that he wanted to be an engineer, “so that I can blow up the Jews.” The teenage host of the show quickly corrected Zakariya’s answer saying, “No, we want to blow up the Zionists. You mean the occupation, right?”

The other young host, Wissam, encouraged the boy’s ambition, saying, “Keep waging Jihad, and Allah willing, when you grow up, you will wage resistance against the Jews.” The female host then interrupted her co-host in an effort to clarify the intended target of a future jihad waged against Israel. “Bomb the occupation,” Wissam said, correcting his original response, so that the “al-Aqsa mosque will be liberated.”

There's nothing new to this story. What's interesting here is that Hamasniks are making an effort to sound more like western bigots who mask their antiSemitism as antiZionism. Usually, Hamasniks don't give a shit.

[DetlefK]

1. Surprise! Hatred begets hatred.

[Igel]

2. Yes, it did.

The first intifada and some of the pogroms begat things like Irgun. Since then it's been unrelenting, and, indeed, has produced hatred in some sections of Israeli society.

[DetlefK]

4. I think, Israel was a political failure from the start.

The goal of creating a safe haven for the Jews was noble, but the execution was sloppy and callous.
"These poor victims of racism! We should ethnically cleanse this land so they can live in safety!"

That's how we got violence, counter-violence, counter-counter-violence, counter-counter-counter-violence... until it ceased to matter who started this.

Yes, I called Israel a failed state. A state that only exists due to large-scale military violence and systematic exclusion of inhabitants from political power. It's time for both sides to come to a peaceful conclusion, with the greater share of responsibility falling on the side that has the guns.

[oberliner]

5. Bizarre read on the history

Kind of sounds more like the founding of the USA actually.

[Little Tich]

3. They might have said that, or maybe they didn't.

My personal opinion about MEMRI is that their translations are not to be trusted, as it's a shady propaganda outlet that intentionally mistranslates Arabic. I'm not the only one with these suspicions, Wikipedia has a quite lenghty section devoted to MEMRI's mistranslations. Remember Farfour and the little girl who wanted to kill Jews? It turned out that she said no such thing...


Middle East Media Research Institute
(snip, from section "Alleged translation inaccuracy&quot

In 2007, CNN correspondent Atika Shubert and Arabic translators accused MEMRI of mistranslating portions of a Palestinian children's television programme.

Media watchdog MEMRI translates one caller as saying – quote – 'We will annihilate the Jews'," said Shubert. "But, according to several Arabic speakers used by CNN, the caller actually says 'The Jews are killing us.'

CNN's Glenn Beck later invited Yigal Carmon onto his program to comment on the alleged mistranslation. Carmon criticized CNN's translators understanding of Arabic stating: "Even someone who doesn't know Arabic would listen to the tape and would hear the word 'Jews' is at the end, and also it means it is something to be done to the Jews, not by the Jews. And she insisted, no the word is in the beginning. I said: 'Octavia, you just don't get it. It is at the end.'" He was referring to Arabic native speaker Octavia Nasr, a Greek-orthodox Christian from Lebanon, who was later fired by CNN for a tweet praising late Ayatollah Hussein Fadlallah. Brian Whitaker, a Middle East editor for the British Guardian newspaper later pointed out that the word order in Arabic is not the same as in English: "the verb comes first and so a sentence in Arabic which literally says 'Are shooting at us the Jews' means 'The Jews are shooting at us.'"

Naomi Sakr, a professor of Media Policy at the University of Westminster has charged that specific MEMRI mistranslations, occurring during times of international tension, have generated hostility towards Arab journalists.

Brian Whitaker wrote in a blog for The Guardian newspaper that in the translation of the video, showing Farfour eliciting political comments from a young girl named Sanabel, the MEMRI transcript misrepresents the segment. Farfour asks Sanabel what she will do and, after a pause says "I'll shoot", MEMRI attributed the phrase said by Farfour, ("I'll shoot&quot , as the girl's reply while ignoring her actual reply ("I'm going to draw a picture&quot .[76] Whitaker and others commented that a statement uttered by the same child, ("We're going to [or want to] resist&quot , had been given an unduly aggressive interpretation by MEMRI as ("We want to fight&quot . Also, where MEMRI translated the girl as saying the highly controversial remark ("We will annihilate the Jews&quot , Whitaker and others, including Arabic speakers used by CNN, insist that based on careful listening to the low quality video clip, the girl is saying "Bitokhoona al-yahood", variously interpreted as, "The Jews [will] shoot us" or "The Jews are killing us."

MEMRI stands by their translation of the show, saying: "Yes, we stand by the translation by the very words, by the context, by the syntax, and every measure of the translation."

Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute

[oberliner]

6. "My personal opinion about MEMRI is that their translations are not to be trusted"

Would that there were another source that you did trust doing the translating.

Since there isn't one (and any that did would probably similarly be accused of having an agenda), it's easy to just pretend that none of this actually is being broadcast (in spite of the clear evidence) and just dismiss it all.

[Little Tich]

8. That would actually be the better option, strangely enough.

If these translations are bogus and taken out of context, they're useless when put into the context MEMRI did. It's like a form of negative information that's only used in the context of making Arabs look bad, and it really won't give us any information about what bias there is in Arab media.

There is sometimes a fine line between propaganda and information, and I think that MEMRI has crossed that line.

[King_David]

7. Well can you point to the inaccuracies in the translations?

Or provide more accurate ones?

[Little Tich]

9. No I can't. Can you? n/t