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Related: About this forumIs a third Palestinian intifada on the way – or has it already begun?
Source: The Guardian
Violence is escalating but it is not yet clear whether Palestinian society is united
in a desire for another prolonged period of unrest
Peter Beaumont in Tulkarem
Monday 5 October 2015 18.05 BST
A weekend of febrile violence in the West Bank and east Jerusalem has led to growing fears of a third Palestinian intifada. One of the latest victims was a 13-year-old boy killed by Israeli forces during clashes outside a refugee camp in Bethlehem.
Abdel Rahman Shadi, who lived in Aida refugee camp in Bethlehem, was struck in the chest by Israeli fire and died after undergoing emergency surgery in Beit Jala hospital on Monday the second youth to be killed in 24 hours.
There is concern among diplomats and analysts in the region that the escalating violence could turn into a new intifada, or uprising. Four Israelis were killed in attacks by Palestinians on Friday and Saturday.
The front page of one mass-circulation newspaper on Sunday stated simply: The Third Intifada. Elsewhere in the Israeli media, columnists were more circumspect. Some asked whether the latest events fitted the pattern of the two previous intifadas, which began in 1987 and 2000, and if not, how the current escalation could be curbed before becoming one.
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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/05/third-palestinian-intifada-on-way-or-already-begun
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)much like we're seeing with ISIS-inspired events--without organization, but rather just seemingly random and out of the blue.
I'm not comparing Palestinian nationalism or its adherents to ISIS--just noting the lack of organization and coordination in both sets of attacks.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)For the Palestinians, it is a losing strategy. They suffer disproportionately to any harm they might do to Israel's occupation apparatus. And, killing Israeli civilians turns the Israeli population even farther to the right (if that is still possible). Also, the Palestinians lose international support when they resort to terror tactics. It is hard to rebuild that support.
The Palestinians need to find their Gandhi and follow him or her. Use non-violent means to expose the cruelty and injustice of the occupation. It will take time, but it will work. Intifadas don't--for anybody.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)reading around the web it seems reports from West Bank say the mistaravim, who have been found to act as agent provocateurs are out in force and settlers are attacking Palestinians while IDF guards them as they do it
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Care to link to one of those "reports" that you came across from "reading around the web" ?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The only sites saying that kind of thing that come up on a Google search, are ones that I would imagine you would be embarrassed to link to here. Interesting to know, however, that those are the corners of the internet where you get your information.
Quite telling that you won't provide even a single link.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)that is what the mistaravim are ya know, fascinating
6chars
(3,967 posts)Thanks to their leadership, things just keep getting better and better for the Palestinians.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)He's like a pyromaniac pouring gasoline on the fire.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to stop treating the Palestinians like children who have no control over their actions? Do you even realize how little respect you show for them by blaming all their actions on bibi? It's pathetic.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Don't you understand that people will always protest against oppression sooner or later? Israel has been making things worse for Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem little by little for a long time now, and hitting them hard for expressing their anger won't solve any of the problem that caused it.
The only real way out of this is to improve lives for Palestinians and stop making provocative acts.