Ya'alon: No place for Palestinian state alongside Israel

[Eugene]

Source: The Jerusalem Post

Ya'alon: No place for Palestinian state alongside Israel

By JPOST.COM STAFF 01/12/2013 17:17

Vice Premiere Moshe Ya’alon (Likud) ruled out the possibility of establishing a Palestinian state alongside Israel, while speaking at a cultural event on Saturday afternoon.

"As far as I'm concerned, the (Palestinian) Authority can call itself the Palestinian Empire," he said at the event in the Sharon region. "The goals of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas are similar to those of Hamas," he purported.

Tzipi Livni meanwhile, called for the renewal of the peace process. "The United Nations' decision was just the overture," the Tzipi Livni Party leader said. "We are sitting on a volcano that is due to erupt in March, when the world will lay a diplomatic plan on the table," she said. "Either they will impose a plan on us, or we can initiate our own plan."

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[Solindsey]

1. Isn't this the same kind of shit you hear coming from Hamas against Israel?

It's getting mighty hard to tell the difference between these two extremists sides anymore.

[oberliner]

2. The Palestinian and Israeli right have a lot in common

Specifically, support for a one-state solution.

Namely a state where their side is supreme.

[Solindsey]

3. I completely agree. n/t

[LeftishBrit]

9. Indeed.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

11. They deserve each other.

The problem is that both their people don't need or deserve them.

[azurnoir]

4. well from what I've read he is only stating Likud policy

as per the Likud Charter of 1999, but what is odd is that on a Google search I could find lots of stuff about what the Likud charter says but not a copy of the charter itself whereas conversely I changed the word Likud to Hamas and viola more copies of the Hamas charter than you'd care to count

[oberliner]

5. There is no such thing as a Likud Charter

That might be why you had such a hard time with Google.

Perhaps you are thinking of their 1999 party platform?

[azurnoir]

6. No I am thinking of the way I saw it worded at several sites

Likud Charter of 1999 but it is a figment of imagination is what your telling us? I suppose its just made up lies right Likud is all for an equitable 2 state solution, I'm sure

[oberliner]

7. Not surprising that you would see it worded that way "at several sites"

However, the fact remains that there is no such thing.

A charter is a founding document. Likud was founded long before 1999.

What you are seeing "at several sites" is their 1999 party platform (which changes every few years, much like those of most political parties).

I'd love to know the names of "the several sites" that decided (for some reason) to call the 1999 party platform "The Likud Charter".

I'm sure those sites have their reasons.

[azurnoir]

8. "I'm sure those sites have their reasons. " and what sites in your opinion am I speaking of

and what would those reasons be?

[oberliner]

10. No idea

I just know when sites make stuff up, they usually have an angle.

[azurnoir]

13. charter or platform it has been removed from the Knesset website

and relatively recently as in the past year

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/netanyahu%E2%80%99s-party-platform-flatly-rejects-establishment-of-palestinian-state.html

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2009/01/hamas-vs-likud-charter.html

[Scurrilous]

12. Peace process dead if Netanyahu wins Israeli election, academics warn

Even if Binyamin Netanyahu forms a government with centrists rather than ultra-nationalist Jewish Home, there is little prospect of rapprochement with the Palestinians, say Israel experts

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"The Israeli-Palestinian peace process is dead if Binyamin Netanyahu wins next week's Israeli election, leading academics have warned – even if he forms a government with centrists rather than the ultra-nationalist party Jewish Home.

The polls show Netanyahu on course to remain prime minister after the 22 January polls, with Labor the second-largest party and Naftali Bennett's relatively new Jewish Home coming a close third.

Bennett has said the conflict with the Palestinians is "insoluble" and a Palestinian state is not going to be established, and he has called for Israel to annex the 60% of the West Bank that is under Israeli military control – the so-called Area C.

But Dr Amnon Aran, senior lecturer in international politics at City University, London, told the Guardian that even if Netanyahu spurned Jewish Home and formed a government with centrist parties such as Tzipi Livni's Hatenhuah or Yair Lapid's There is a Future, there were a number of important factors working against peace.

"One thing is the Arab uprisings," Aran said. "Netanyahu has stated very clearly that he is adopting a wait-and-see policy, that this is not the time to make any concessions, when the region is in flux, and of course the Arab uprising might last quite a while."

He added: "Another one of course is the question of what will happen with Iran, and again Netanyahu has indicated on several fronts that the first priority is Iran not the Palestinians … And it is indicative that, with the exception of Livni, in a sort of pretty minor way, no significant party has raised the banner of the peace process … In terms of the Israeli domestic scene there isn't a big impetus like there was 15-20 year ago."

He concluded: "By and large for these reasons there isn't much hope."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2013/jan/15/peace-process-dead-if-netanyahu-wins-israeli-election-academics-warn