The one-state plan according to Israel's top settlement council

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://972mag.com/the-one-state-plan-according-to-israels-top-settlement-council/68088/

Step 1: Renewing the strong belief in the supremacy of the Jewish claim to the Jewish Homeland and the justness of taking measures to maintain control of it

In the coalition agreement between Likud and Jewish Home was a bill to make the Jewishness of the state supreme. This is a redo of the Avi Dichter bill from the last Knesset. No one is quite sure of which version will hit the Knesset, if it gets through Tzipi Livni, but it is part of a big move to decouple the concepts of Jewish and democratic state as equal and promote the former at the expense of the latter. The motivations behind this become clear in a strategy that is tied into biblical land claims and preparing for a situation where the civil rights of millions of Palestinians are going to have to be restricted.
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The Jewish Home party has already indicated that it would rather release prisoners and transfer taxes to the PA than freeze settlement construction. Looking at this nine-step plan, it is easy to see why Bennett would rather give any other ‘confidence building measure’ than allow the slowing of the settler population. The one thing that the party cannot allow is a settlement freeze as it destroys the plan above.

[Jefferson23]

1. How would that be interpreted by the international court? n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. I'm not sure but any negative ruling by the ICC on Israel might be met with

"Fekk You!"

[Jefferson23]

3. That's a given but the interpretation would be important for the Palestinians.

Not that it would convince the Israeli government but their isolation would only
deepen.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. I agree, and any negative ruling may indeed deepen Israel's isolation.

I am not sure how the international community would react and follow through with sanctions if they were to see a need.

Besides the fekk you from Israel you might see a doubling down on settlement construction as a reprisal for such a ruling. That by itself might be the catalyst for sanctions and arm twisting by Washington.

[Jefferson23]

5. For now the plans detailed in your OP have cross purposes here:

Israel Promises To Lift Blockade On Palestinian Territories: Turkish PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113436871

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

6. Well sure. Israel has promised to "relax" the blockade in Gaza,

but that in no way means that the West Bank situation is going to change. In fact it appears that it is going to become far worse. Israel can always resume the blockade citing security reasons while it siphons off any natural resources that the Gazans have a right to of of their coast such as natural gas.

[Jefferson23]

9. Even if they do relax the blockade in a meaningful way, the settlemnts continue, maximum efforts

there, yes. True, anything can be shut down quickly for security reasons. It was Israel who broke the
cease fire with Hamas before OCL several years ago.

[azurnoir]

10. Israel says fence-mending with Turks does not end Gaza blockade

Israel did not commit to ending its Gaza blockade as part of reconciliation with Turkey and could clamp down even harder on the Palestinian enclave if security is threatened, Israeli officials said on Sunday.

After a U.S.-brokered fence-mending announcement on Friday, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Israel had met his demands to apologise for killing nine Turks aboard a Gaza-bound activist ship in 2010, pay compensation to those bereaved or hurt and lift the blockade by allowing in more consumer goods.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/24/uk-israel-turkey-idUKBRE92N03W20130324

[Jefferson23]

11. The tough guys always need to say tough guy stuff. Thanks for the link.

[Jefferson23]

14. Resuming normal ties with Israel will take time, PM Erdogan clarifies: Israel must make good on its

Turkey conditions normalization on Israel ending Gaza blockade, compensating for flotilla

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Sunday suggested that normalization of ties with Israel would take time, hinting that Turkey wanted to ensure the victims of a flotilla raid were compensated and Israel remained committed to the easing of restrictions of goods to Gaza before restoring relations.

"We have said: An apology will be made, compensation will be paid and the blockade on Palestine will be lifted. There will be no normalization without these," he said in a public address on Sunday. "Normalization will happen the moment there is an implementation. But if there is no implementation, then I am sorry."

Erdogan's comments on Sunday came days after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the Turkish leader to apologize for the botched raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla in 2010 that killed eight Turks and one Turkish-American.

Erdogan accepted the apology and both leaders said they would begin the work of restoring full relations.

The statement was largely seen as effort to ease concerns of his religious and pro-Palestinian support. Erdogan has won praise both at home and the Arab world for his criticism of Israel and for breaking off ties with the Jewish state over the flotilla raid.

Turkey and Israel were once strong allies but relations began to decline after Erdogan, whose party has roots in Turkey's Islamist movement, became prime minister in 2003. Erdogan has embarked on a campaign to make Turkey a regional powerhouse in an attempt to become a leading voice in the Muslim world, distanced from Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkey-conditions-normalization-on-israel-ending-gaza-blockade-compensating-for-flotilla-1.511696

[azurnoir]

15. we'll see how this develops

which is worth more and to whom?

[King_David]

7. 972 MAG ?

LOL

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. I can see no better reason to than to thank you for your post, Dave, other than to let

DUers see an enabler in action.

Cheers!

[King_David]

12. No problem Delores nt

[azurnoir]

13. Interesting that you would choose

to address another DUer who's name id obviously male with a female name, was that supposed to be insulting or what?
True he did not address you by your full screen name but Dave is a common shortening of David

[King_David]

16. Us gay boys see no gender differentiation in someone's name

Ask some friends



(So while you find it "interesting " I was happy to teach you something new)

[azurnoir]

17. oh you are not teaching me anything new but a couple of things here

is the poster you were addressing Gay eta it is generally in male dominated society considered an insult to address a male by a female name and intentional gender misindentification could be considered insulting in any event ?

and seeing as how you are so open about gender designation is it o0kay if we address you by a feminized version pof your screen name or would that be insulting see above ?

[King_David]

18. I don't know if that dudes gay or not,

Not only could I care less but I don't change my behavior or speech depending if the persons Gay or not .

And another thing , I have NO idea if that poster is male or female , I don't even know what gender someone with a name Daneel would be.

Dame Edna who is straight is a guy , Darrell Hannah is a girl .

I have 2 cousins with the name "Liron" and one is a Guy and one is a Girl.

I believe I have dealt with your "indignation " adequately , unless you have some further questions or you want to learn some more from me ?

[azurnoir]

19. first you assume tthat you have 'taught' me something and that is quite wrong

as it assumes that I had no prior knowledge at anything you said, except for the bit about cousins

and there is no indignation on my part in your replies, but feel quite free to expound on that idea

[oberliner]

20. R. Daneel Olivaw is a fictional robot created by Isaac Asimov

For what that is worth.

[azurnoir]

21. well duh but the robot was refered to and depicted as male

[Jefferson23]

22. Nice pic! n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. Does that background make me look...fat?

[King_David]

24. Difficult one,

Do robots have genders?

Traffic lights in South Africa are called robots, some are male and some are female...so I have heard ,but I can not tell the difference.

Traffic lights are called "Robots" in South Africa
Back in the (very) old days actual policemen were organising the traffic by hand signals on South Africa's roads (like anywhere else in the World). When the first electric traffic lights were introduced they replaced the traffic policeman and therefore got the name "robot policemen".

http://umhambi.blogspot.ca/2010/03/why-are-traffic-lights-called-robots-in.html

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