Marketing 'No-Blacks' Apartment Buildings In Tel Aviv

[Purveyor]

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Amid efforts to deport, imprison and segregate African asylum seekers in Israel, real estate agents are now marketing ‘clean’ apartment blocs, meaning no foreign workers or asylum seekers will live there.

By Laissez Passer |Published July 22, 2013

Last week Army Radio reported that real estate agencies in south Tel Aviv are advertising “clean apartments.” According to Army Radio’s web site, a real estate agent said, “we don’t let foreign workers rent the apartments. If there are foreigners, then they’re Nepali or Filipino – normal people.” Whoever listened to the radio broadcast could hear the agent say, “not blacks.” For some unknown reason, those two words were omitted from Army Radio’s report on the web.

Presumably we won’t hear the prime minister, president, or any senior official condemn this phenomenon. Anyone monitoring what is going on here shouldn’t be surprised. If the State of Israel believes that asylum seekers belong in administrative detention in a hot prison in the desert, why wouldn’t it be legitimate for individuals to declare that they won’t rent apartments to those asylum seekers? If the Interior Ministry insists on a country free of asylum seekers, why shouldn’t real estate agents declare that apartments don’t have “infiltrators.”

In recent months the State of Israel has been abusing asylum seekers in a manner that makes us miss former interior minister Eli Yishai. Yishai the racist was very vocal in expressing his desire to embitter the lives of asylum seekers. But his replacement, who refrains from making dramatic announcements, and the executive branch are advancing a heretofore unknown policy. The state is working hard to advance weapons deals aimed at convincing dictatorships to rid Israel of the unwanted waste currently in the country.

The attorney general, his deputy, and several other aides have been drafting new regulations for the Interior Ministry in recent weeks, including a procedure allowing incarceration without trial for an indefinite period of time for individuals suspected of misdemeanors including stealing telephones or bicycles, or a procedure allowing for the “voluntary return” of asylum seekers (complete free will – a choice between endless rotting in an Israeli prison or the threat of persecution in their country of origin). Those people in the Justice Ministry certainly sleep well at night when they tell themselves that they are just small technicians helping implement the decisions of others, as is customary in these parts.

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http://972mag.com/marketing-no-blacks-apartment-buildings-in-tel-aviv/76202/

[PDJane]

1. Why is this any different from the situation that put the Israelis where they are?

[peacebird]

3. ? Sorry, I don't want to make assumptions about your meaning here, could you please explain?

[PDJane]

4. The Israelis are in the middle east because of bigotry, assumptions, hatred and envy.........

What's the difference?

[peacebird]

18. The difference? Based on their own history they should know better and not behave that way perhaps?

[oberliner]

6. Pretty sure that's exactly the conclusion the author wants you to reach

Good job all around.

[bravenak]

2. Sad.

[oberliner]

5. No link provided - but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the source

Hmm.....I'll take 972mag for 500?

[PDJane]

7. The story is likely true,

Since Israelis have been cracking down on black asylum seekers and generally ostracizing those in Israel. This is the group that has been given long-term birth control without consent, too. There has also been what I would characterize as race riots against African small shopkeepers and so on. Pushing, shoving, tipping over fruit carts, smashing windows....Israel is not an innocent. They have been given a blank check, and they are abusing their privilege.

[oberliner]

8. I don't doubt it

I just get the sense this is the sort of story that would be published on 972mag. Call it a hunch.

[PDJane]

9. Call it google.

[oberliner]

12. That would be cheating

I based my guess exclusively on the content of the piece and the poster who posted it.

[Purveyor]

11. That is why 927mag is such a wonderful source, exposing the 'dark side' of one of todays apartheid

states that, shamefully and sadly, the USA and it taxpayers condone and support with its precious tax dollars and resources.

Spit...

[oberliner]

13. Yes it is wonderful!

Maybe someone can put together a website that only focuses on the "dark side" of Palestinian society (which is also supported by the USA (as well as many EU countries!) and its precious tax dollars).

Of course those sorts of sites already exist. Not sure how "wonderful" you think they are. And I certainly wouldn't post links to them here.

But the 972mag dump continues! What do I get for correctly guessing the source of the article? I promise I did not have to use Google.

Speaking of Google, maybe you can find some of the websites that focus on the "dark side" of Palestinian society and report back on your findings.

This is the I/P forum after all.

[Purveyor]

14. "maybe you can find some of the websites that focus on the "dark side" of Palestinian society"...

"maybe you can find some of the websites that focus on the "dark side" of Palestinian society and report back on your findings. "

Go for it. No one is stopping you from that endeavor should you choice to accept it.

[oberliner]

15. I thought it would be up your alley

You mentioned an affinity for the sorts of stories that don't seem to make it into more mainstream sources, focusing more on the "dark side" of Israel, as it were. Since you are clearly a fan of 972mag which appears to fit that bill very well by your own admission, I wonder if maybe you wouldn't be a fan of their Palestinian equivalent? Or if you'd made an effort to seek one out.

[Purveyor]

16. I only have some much time to devote. Usually I start the morning with economic topics, then

I shift to political topics around the top of the day. From there I scanned the Russian/China wires and after all that, I put on my waders and diving into the cesspool known as the Middle-east.

The same Middle-east that has cost this USA countless $$$ and precious treasuries in 'life and blood' while this trend seems to continue.

If you care to contribute on this forum to your interests...knock yourself out. I'm carry a full schedule as it is...

[oberliner]

19. Fair enough

You are quite a prolific poster here - I'm amazed that you are able to find so many articles that fit what you are looking for to be honest.

[delrem]

30. w.r.t. I/P Purveyor's job is *TOO* *FUCKING* *EASY*

I mean this in strict context of speaking the truth.
It's just too easy to find a truthful article that oberliner bites at.
I flag everything "Purveyor" sends to read.
It was necessary to put oberliner's response in perspective.

[oberliner]

32. Well then that should leave plenty of time to find the other articles I alluded to

Since it's so easy to find articles showing Israel's "dark side" - a few moments could be spared to find similar articles on the Palestinian side. Pretty sure they are out there and could be found fairly quickly too.

[pelsar]

22. thats not relevant....and you know it

there is clearly a double standard...one expects "better of israel." the only real reason i ever understood is that its based on racism.....they expect "less from the Palestenians, though they seem to have a hard time explaining why.

the usual excuse that the US taxpayer is a paying for it...mention the money that goes to the PA from the US and then the excuse changes.
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its simple, there are different standards and the apparently they believe the Palestenians simply cannot live up to basic western values and there is no sense in even trying.

just ask them.....

[shira]

23. Jews are double-damned, not just for the Holocaust....

...but of all people, not "learning" from it.

[delrem]

28. You have to put it in perspective of the asymmetry that exists, oberliner. nt

[Israeli]

17. The "story" is 100% true PDJane....

but ,
this is not "the group that has been given long-term birth control without consent, too"

That "group" was Jewish Ethiopian immigrants , see :
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-changes-birth-control-policy-for-ethiopian-immigrants/

This "group" is Eritrean Refugees , which you can read more about here :
http://www.nif.org/media-center/component/content/article/21-guest-voices/1564-unpromised-land-eritrean-refugees-in-israel

[delrem]

29. Unfortunately your 2nd link comes up blank with 404's everywhere.

[Israeli]

31. sorry about that ...

it was working okay when I posted it .... I have no idea why .

Let me give you another link instead .

This is Adam Keller's blog , he is an Israeli peace activist who was among the founders of Gush Shalom, of which he is a spokesperson.

So, who is the leftist here?

http://adam-keller2.blogspot.co.il/2011/08/so-who-is-leftist-here.html

Left and Right in an ethnocracy

As was the common wisdom in Israel for decades, the division between "Left" and "Right" in this country, those considered "Political", are the occupation of and construction of settlements on the West Bank, the siege of the Gaza Strip, the need of going to war versus the possibility of reaching peace with the Palestinians and all Arabs. Also the status of Arabs inside Israel had somehow gotten into this slot, whether they are citizens with equal rights and what status they can have in a "Jewish Democratic State"; whether the Bedouins in the Negev are living on what remained of their ancestral lands or are "squatting on state lands".

On all such issues the dividing lines are sharp and clear: right-wingers are those who regard Israel as a state for Jews and Jews only; on the left are those who uphold and defend the rights of non-Jews, who heartily despise the occupation and settlements, as a moral abomination as well as destroyers of the Israeli society itself.

(snip )

In recent years, there also came up the issue of refugees and migrant workers from Third World countries, especially Black Africa. Naturally everybody slipped into their obvious positions. The right-wingers shifted right away from purveying Arab-hatred to spreading crude stereotypes against the immigrants and calling for their immediate deportation and establish a "Neighborhood Watch" to physically attack them on the streets, while activists from the left worked intensively to help them and defend their rights as human beings (and taking care to remind that we Jews were ourselves persecuted unwanted refugees, not so long ago).

So delrem .....who do you think is the Leftist here ?

[delrem]

41. I had a killer reply to this but then deleted it.

I'd say that the true leftists are those that apply "leftish" principles across the board.

What I mean by "leftish" is that
1. humans are a social animal.
2. those who promote peace/equality-before-the-law among humans are definitive of those who can legitimately say that they are "of the left".

[pelsar]

21. is this an everyday thing?

There has also been what I would characterize as race riots against African small shopkeepers and so on. Pushing, shoving, tipping over fruit carts, smashing windows.

just curious since i'm in S.Tel Aviv quite often and obviously i keep missing those riots and i've never even seen a fruit cart...and these african small shop keepers? i guess you mean the ones near the old bus station....except they dont have windows...

isnt this fun....your post has almost no facts at all, and yet I know its irrelevant to you, since facts, truths are not whats important, its what you want to believe.....

[shira]

24. Blaming the "Zionists" is a fun online game, don't u know? n/t

[Israeli]

25. you are in denial pelsar ...

facts and truth is what you get from 972

see : http://972mag.com/special/aslyum-seekers-2/

I'm probably in S.Tel Aviv more often than you are , my daughter lives in Florentin.

So ...you can take my word for it or yours ...or you can take 972's ...or not .

its what you want to believe

or perhaps what you dont want to believe ?

[pelsar]

26. Florentine is not the old bus station.....

where i spend some time...and i was involved with a small group that worked with the illegal immigrants for a while......

so i dont need 972 nor you to try to convince me what I actually see now do I?
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have you seen any fruit carts down there by the old bus station? have you seen the riots? because except for the one or two short protests (i forget the details) its pretty peaceful out there in the evenings on that small park near the bus station. wouldnt you say, when everyone is outside......


for those who dont know: Florentine is the where the artists and "cool" people hang out and live...

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but no i'm not going to claim there is not discrimination nor fear from the immigrants, nor the higher crime rate in that area...but neither does the whole country hate and fear them...fact is on a day to day basis, they dont live in fear and neither do the majority of the Tel Aviv residents.

and if there were fruit carts I'm sure the owners wouldnt be afraid of them being tipped over....except that there arent any...

[Israeli]

27. nobody said ....

that the whole country hates and fears them... and nobody said that it was an everyday thing .

Here is what you said to the other poster :

isnt this fun....your post has almost no facts at all, and yet I know its irrelevant to you, since facts, truths are not whats important, its what you want to believe.....

I would suggest that the other poster reads here :

http://972mag.com/a-year-in-review-anti-african-racism-and-asylum-seekers-in-israel/72381/

Last Thursday, May 23, 2013, marked exactly one year to the day when a thousand Jewish Israelis ran rampant through the streets of Tel Aviv, smashing and looting African-operated businesses and physically assaulting any dark-skinned person they came across. Sadly, the Israeli economic, political and religious establishment – who were in large measure responsible for the pogrom – did not respond by working to quash the racism, but rather ramped up their efforts to expel all non-Jewish African people from the country.

Meanwhile, Likud Beiteinu lawmaker Miri Regev, who riled up the May 23 pogromists by telling them that non-Jewish African asylum seekers are “a cancer in the body” of the nation – and later apologized after the violence, not to African asylum seekers, but to Israeli cancer victims, for comparing them to Africans – was appointed by Netanyahu to head the Knesset Interior Committee, the very body that decides the fate of those asylum seekers

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You keep denying pelsar ....and keep emphasizing fruit carts

[pelsar]

33. yes i mentioned the one riot..

I dont know of others..did i miss them? a whole year ago...what exactly am i denying?

i also mentioned the nightly ritual when everyone is outside on the small green park next to the old bus station....no riots, no drugs, no on being chased. i also have been down the streets in S. Tel Aviv where you'll find many of the illegals hanging out, so though i dont live here, its not exactly foreign territory for me.

i mention the fruit carts because that was in the original post simply to show that the poster or the author of such a post that mentions something that does not exist goes to show that they clearly have never been there and are probably making up more facts.

i dont mind different interpretations...i do mind when people make up facts that dont exist

[King_David]

34. ", my daughter lives in Florentin. "

Ooowa Florantin ?That's a very nice gentrified area up and coming with brand new posh condominium complexes built.

Your daughter must be a "gasp" capitalist elite...

[Israeli]

39. when you cant debate ...

get personal and bitchy huh ?
thats okay tho I'm used to it from those that have no understanding of life over here and are far flung wannabes.

you have obviously never been near Florentine and no she is not " a "gasp" capitalist elite " she is a poor student working as a waitress at nights to pay her way through studies at Shenkar College .

[King_David]

42. Looks nice

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=103149560

http://www.hbhproject.com/realestate-316-292.html

http://www.lagur.com/english/apartments-israel--Tel-Aviv-Jaffa,152848.html

[Purveyor]

10. Fixed. eom

[shira]

20. The headline is inflammatory demonizing bullshit. Typical 972.

From the comments...

The heading of this article is inflammatory, to say the least.
Do these landlords block Israelis from Africa, and dark skinned Mizrachi?
I think not!

I suggest they rent out apartments in Shimon Peres’ building in upscale Ramat Aviv to these illegal aliens. We could easily fit 30 or 40 in those spacious apartements and I am sure the neighbors, most of whom support HADASH, MERETZ and the Labor would welcome such ethnic diversity in their backyard.

Since (they) are not rushing to accept them, I don’t want them for the same reason.... Disorder, noise, possible criminal activity (I don’t want Jewish criminals in my building either). This is yet another patented 972 “bash Israel” piece.

I’ll tell you what….tell the Palestinians to accept them. You know how much they love blacks and other people outside their clan. Here’s an example…the Beduin town of Rahat has three clans in it, each in a separate neighborhood. Each neighborhood is a no-go zone for people from the other two. Now, these are all Beduins. How would they like to have this illegal African aliens in their turf?

Of course, inflammatory demonizing bullshit is the entire purpose of 972 and those posting incessantly from there.

[azurnoir]

35. you do realize that most if not all of +972's writters are......wait for- it ISRAELI

but do feel free to tell Israeli's what they can or should write about their own country, oh and the comments you posted they are from Rightwing regulars on +972 one of which judging at least from their user name would indicate that they are not Israeli either

[King_David]

36. So you are saying that only Israelis are free to comment on IP?

So what motivates so many very involved people ,who are not Israeli nor Jewish,Arab Palestinian nor Muslim to hold such a strong obsession with the Jewish State ?

(I have my theories)

[azurnoir]

37. no I was pointing out something else

but do feel free to claim that if it pleases you and your theories

[shira]

38. doesn't matter who they are - the headline is bullshit. n/t

[Israeli]

40. thank you azurnoir /nt .