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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:00 PM Mar 2014

Good news: Obama gives the Palestinians an insurance policy

At stake in the blame game is momentum: if Washington finds against the Palestinians, Abbas’ plans to take Israel to The Hague would stall, as would the “mainstreaming” of the BDS movement. If Washington finds against Israel, the effect would be the opposite. And if Washington blames neither side, then the rest of the world will be left to decide for itself, and its decision will likely be for the Palestinians. In the probable event of the talks failing, Israel’s only hope of avoiding an upsurge of world opposition – which is what Justice Minister Tzipi Livni and Finance Minister Yair Lapid, along with top Israeli business people, friendly foreign diplomats, Kerry and now Obama are trying to warn Israel against – is if Washington clears Netanyahu of responsibility and turns its wrath on Abbas.

But how can Washington do that after what Obama just said in that interview:

I think nobody would dispute that whatever disagreements you may have with him, he has proven himself to be somebody who has been committed to nonviolence and diplomatic efforts to resolve this issue.

I believe that President Abbas is sincere about his willingness to recognize Israel and its right to exist, to recognize Israel’s legitimate security needs, to shun violence, to resolve these issues in a diplomatic fashion that meets the concerns of the people of Israel. And I think that this is a rare quality not just within the Palestinian territories, but in the Middle East generally. For us not to seize that opportunity would be a mistake.

[Y]ou’ve got a partner on the other side who is prepared to negotiate seriously, who does not engage in some of the wild rhetoric that so often you see in the Arab world when it comes to Israel, who has shown himself committed to maintaining order within the West Bank and the Palestinian Authority and to cooperate with Israelis around their security concerns — for us to not seize this moment I think would be a great mistake.

http://972mag.com/good-news-obama-gives-the-palestinians-an-insurance-policy/87929/

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Good news: Obama gives the Palestinians an insurance policy (Original Post) azurnoir Mar 2014 OP
Don't hold back on your racist rant: Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #1
Definitely a false flag comment that one. King_David Mar 2014 #2
yes indeed I'd say it's pretty easy to spot azurnoir Mar 2014 #3
Actually it is. King_David Mar 2014 #4
Really now azurnoir Mar 2014 #5
Of course ... I was talking about False Flag comment King_David Mar 2014 #9
you keep going on about false flags azurnoir Mar 2014 #11
Dave's running a No True Scotsman scam here. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #12
Don't forget black helicopters and green dust :) azurnoir Mar 2014 #13
Lizard people, faces on mars, and all that Scootaloo Mar 2014 #14
really I did not feel Eis (Ice in German) was particularly Jewish sounding azurnoir Mar 2014 #15
Ms Eis is really lettin' it all hang out now leaning very Rightwing the whole 9 yards azurnoir Mar 2014 #6
The whole nine yards, indeed...but it's a false flag..somehow or other, lol. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #7
There's conspiracies everywhere dontchaknow! R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #8
It's a False Flag. nt King_David Mar 2014 #10

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. Don't hold back on your racist rant:
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:31 PM
Mar 2014

Ginger Eis
Tuesday
March 4, 2014

The bond between Israel and the US is natural, deep and “iron-clad”. But President Obama and his not so-secret secret Muslim advisers/agitators from Chicago are not the USA. The USA and the Free World will survive them.


King_David

(14,851 posts)
4. Actually it is.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:07 PM
Mar 2014

They are quite the organized group trolling around pro-Israel articles leaving disgusting False Flag comments.

Very similar tactics to what the BDS gang imagine and project to what they call "Hasbarists".

They very organized actually with their main aim or goal to plant disgusting comments and to attribute them to Jewish sounding names .

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. Really now
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:12 PM
Mar 2014

I'd say this one goes under the "it's one thing to know and another to show" clause but I find it truly interesting that you think an article outlining how the Democratic PotUS is giving the Palestinians an "insurance policy" against Israel is positive - now that is progress

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Dave's running a No True Scotsman scam here.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:55 PM
Mar 2014

Or well, trying to. We should offer him sympathy, he could be talking about chemtrails and the Bank of England before too long if he keeps up

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. Ms Eis is really lettin' it all hang out now leaning very Rightwing the whole 9 yards
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:22 PM
Mar 2014

(1). Everything President Obama said about Israel and Netanyahu in his Bloomberg conversation is (a) false (b) incendiary, (c) abhorrent and more importantly (d) totally unnecessary! There is a war of delegitimization based on falsehood going on against Israel and Obama uses the Office of The President of the United States to lend legitimacy to said delegitimization; (2)(a) The Iron Dome is PARTLY funded by the US, (b) it’s technology is Israeli and (c) said technology serves both countries. (3) Israel is grateful for US substantial, but partial funding of the Iron Dome and blockage unfair UN-resolutions against Israel, but only a fool brags about good deeds done to a friend and uses said deeds as instruments caricature of said friend, intimidation and blackmail. (4) The fact that you are not able to see at least the inaccuracy of Obama’s statements and immorality inherent therein reveals a lot.

Kate, your post contains 105-words with NO SINGLE argument, but rant. I will reward your effort though with a few points. (1) President Obama’s Muslim agitators/advisers: (a) Imam Mohammed Magid, (b) Mohamed Elibiari, (c) Rashad Hussain, (d) Arif Alikhan, (e) Salam al-Marayati (f) Eboo Patel, (g) Nonie Darwish, etc. (2) Named individuals have strong connection to radical organizations such as Sayyid Qutb, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, etc. (3) We know of how Obama brought his friend Mubarak down, facilitated the rise of the MB and what happened to Egypt thereafter. (4) while Obama is going bonkers over Israeli “settlements” that occupy LESS THAN 4% the WB, tens of thousands of innocent civilians are being slaughtered on a few kilometers away in Syria under his (advisers’) nose. What’s the logic of all that?


I think Nonie Darwish is supposed to steer us away from something but I wonder what

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