Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumGood news: Obama gives the Palestinians an insurance policy
At stake in the blame game is momentum: if Washington finds against the Palestinians, Abbas plans to take Israel to The Hague would stall, as would the mainstreaming of the BDS movement. If Washington finds against Israel, the effect would be the opposite. And if Washington blames neither side, then the rest of the world will be left to decide for itself, and its decision will likely be for the Palestinians. In the probable event of the talks failing, Israels only hope of avoiding an upsurge of world opposition which is what Justice Minister Tzipi Livni and Finance Minister Yair Lapid, along with top Israeli business people, friendly foreign diplomats, Kerry and now Obama are trying to warn Israel against is if Washington clears Netanyahu of responsibility and turns its wrath on Abbas.
But how can Washington do that after what Obama just said in that interview:
I think nobody would dispute that whatever disagreements you may have with him, he has proven himself to be somebody who has been committed to nonviolence and diplomatic efforts to resolve this issue.
I believe that President Abbas is sincere about his willingness to recognize Israel and its right to exist, to recognize Israels legitimate security needs, to shun violence, to resolve these issues in a diplomatic fashion that meets the concerns of the people of Israel. And I think that this is a rare quality not just within the Palestinian territories, but in the Middle East generally. For us not to seize that opportunity would be a mistake.
[Y]ouve got a partner on the other side who is prepared to negotiate seriously, who does not engage in some of the wild rhetoric that so often you see in the Arab world when it comes to Israel, who has shown himself committed to maintaining order within the West Bank and the Palestinian Authority and to cooperate with Israelis around their security concerns for us to not seize this moment I think would be a great mistake.
http://972mag.com/good-news-obama-gives-the-palestinians-an-insurance-policy/87929/
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Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Ginger Eis
Tuesday
March 4, 2014
The bond between Israel and the US is natural, deep and iron-clad. But President Obama and his not so-secret secret Muslim advisers/agitators from Chicago are not the USA. The USA and the Free World will survive them.
King_David
(14,851 posts)You read enough of them they become easy to spot.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)They are quite the organized group trolling around pro-Israel articles leaving disgusting False Flag comments.
Very similar tactics to what the BDS gang imagine and project to what they call "Hasbarists".
They very organized actually with their main aim or goal to plant disgusting comments and to attribute them to Jewish sounding names .
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I'd say this one goes under the "it's one thing to know and another to show" clause but I find it truly interesting that you think an article outlining how the Democratic PotUS is giving the Palestinians an "insurance policy" against Israel is positive - now that is progress
King_David
(14,851 posts)that Jefferson posted.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but of what or who?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Or well, trying to. We should offer him sympathy, he could be talking about chemtrails and the Bank of England before too long if he keeps up
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but if you say so
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)(1). Everything President Obama said about Israel and Netanyahu in his Bloomberg conversation is (a) false (b) incendiary, (c) abhorrent and more importantly (d) totally unnecessary! There is a war of delegitimization based on falsehood going on against Israel and Obama uses the Office of The President of the United States to lend legitimacy to said delegitimization; (2)(a) The Iron Dome is PARTLY funded by the US, (b) its technology is Israeli and (c) said technology serves both countries. (3) Israel is grateful for US substantial, but partial funding of the Iron Dome and blockage unfair UN-resolutions against Israel, but only a fool brags about good deeds done to a friend and uses said deeds as instruments caricature of said friend, intimidation and blackmail. (4) The fact that you are not able to see at least the inaccuracy of Obamas statements and immorality inherent therein reveals a lot.
Kate, your post contains 105-words with NO SINGLE argument, but rant. I will reward your effort though with a few points. (1) President Obamas Muslim agitators/advisers: (a) Imam Mohammed Magid, (b) Mohamed Elibiari, (c) Rashad Hussain, (d) Arif Alikhan, (e) Salam al-Marayati (f) Eboo Patel, (g) Nonie Darwish, etc. (2) Named individuals have strong connection to radical organizations such as Sayyid Qutb, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, etc. (3) We know of how Obama brought his friend Mubarak down, facilitated the rise of the MB and what happened to Egypt thereafter. (4) while Obama is going bonkers over Israeli settlements that occupy LESS THAN 4% the WB, tens of thousands of innocent civilians are being slaughtered on a few kilometers away in Syria under his (advisers) nose. Whats the logic of all that?
I think Nonie Darwish is supposed to steer us away from something but I wonder what