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The Israeli Government is moderate - compared to some (many) Israelis
The following items are from Ha'aretz
Israeli professor's 'rape as terror deterrent' statement draws ire (Pay wall in place)
“You have to understand the culture in which we live,” said Kedar. “The only thing that deters [Hamas leaders] is a threat to the connection between their heads and their shoulders.” When presenter Yossi Hadar asked if that “could filter down” the organization’s ranks, Kedar replied: “No, because lower down the considerations are entirely different. Terrorists like those who kidnapped the children and killed them — the only thing that deters them is if they know that their sister or their mother will be raped in the event that they are caught. What can you do, that’s the culture in which we live.”
When Hadar said, “We can’t take such steps, of course,” Kedar continued: “I’m not talking about what we should or shouldn’t do. I’m talking about the facts. The only thing that deters a suicide bomber is the knowledge that if he pulls the trigger or blows himself up, his sister will be raped. That’s all. That’s the only thing that will bring him back home, in order to preserve his sister’s honor.”
“You have to understand the culture in which we live,” said Kedar. “The only thing that deters [Hamas leaders] is a threat to the connection between their heads and their shoulders.” When presenter Yossi Hadar asked if that “could filter down” the organization’s ranks, Kedar replied: “No, because lower down the considerations are entirely different. Terrorists like those who kidnapped the children and killed them — the only thing that deters them is if they know that their sister or their mother will be raped in the event that they are caught. What can you do, that’s the culture in which we live.”
When Hadar said, “We can’t take such steps, of course,” Kedar continued: “I’m not talking about what we should or shouldn’t do. I’m talking about the facts. The only thing that deters a suicide bomber is the knowledge that if he pulls the trigger or blows himself up, his sister will be raped. That’s all. That’s the only thing that will bring him back home, in order to preserve his sister’s honor.”
Right-wing rabbi’s ruling: Israel may totally destroy Gaza if necessary (Pay wall in place)
“Therefore, in a time of war, the attacked nation is permitted to punish the enemy population with whatever measures it deems proper, like blocking supplies or electricity. It may bomb the entire area based on the judgment of the war minister and not wantonly put soldiers at risk…deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy [are also allowed],” Rabbi Dov Lior, the senior West Bank settler rabbi and the rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Kiryat Arba adjacent to Hebron, reportedly wrote.
“The defense minister may even order the destruction of Gaza so that the south should no longer suffer, and to prevent harm to members of our people who have long been suffering from the enemies surrounding us,” Lior continued.
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Lior also supported the publication of the notoriously racist book Torat HaMelech, written by two top students of extremist Chabad-linked Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh, Rabbis Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira. Among other things, the book argues that the IDF should intentionally murder Arab babies during times of war – which Ginsburgh interprets broadly to include almost any situation Israel has existed in since its founding. Like Lior, Ginsburgh also praised the mass murderer Goldstein, writing a book and naming it Baruch HaGever (Baruch the Strong) after him.
“Therefore, in a time of war, the attacked nation is permitted to punish the enemy population with whatever measures it deems proper, like blocking supplies or electricity. It may bomb the entire area based on the judgment of the war minister and not wantonly put soldiers at risk…deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy [are also allowed],” Rabbi Dov Lior, the senior West Bank settler rabbi and the rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Kiryat Arba adjacent to Hebron, reportedly wrote.
“The defense minister may even order the destruction of Gaza so that the south should no longer suffer, and to prevent harm to members of our people who have long been suffering from the enemies surrounding us,” Lior continued.
/snip
Lior also supported the publication of the notoriously racist book Torat HaMelech, written by two top students of extremist Chabad-linked Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh, Rabbis Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira. Among other things, the book argues that the IDF should intentionally murder Arab babies during times of war – which Ginsburgh interprets broadly to include almost any situation Israel has existed in since its founding. Like Lior, Ginsburgh also praised the mass murderer Goldstein, writing a book and naming it Baruch HaGever (Baruch the Strong) after him.
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