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Related: About this forumPenis politics: Sex, size and stereotypes in the gay community
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/12/penis_politics_sex_size_and_stereotypes_in_the_gay_community/Recent studies have shown that actual penis size is smaller than men are claiming. According to the Journal of Sexual Medicine, the average male penis measures 5.6 inches when erect; the Journal of Urology puts it at a slightly smaller 5.08 inches. This is considerably smaller than previous numbers from Alfred Kinsey, Durex and the Definitive Penis study, which averaged 6.25 inches in their estimates. The difference between the two estimates: surveys like Durexs rely on self-reporting, and men are likely to overestimate. As Tom Hickman wrote in Gods Doodle: What is incontrovertible is that where men and their penises are concerned there are lies, damned lies, and self measurements.
Just ask any gay man looking for a hook-up on Grindr. If a guy tells you his size and you meet up, you realize he must have a different ruler, said Noah Michelson, editor of The Huffington Posts Gay Voices section. Michelson believes that the reason men are likely to overreport their penis size is because of the cultural currency the gay community places on having a large penis. I think theres something to do with internalized homophobia or insecurities about being a man, Michelson said. You want to have a big dick and you want to be with a big dick. You want to be with a man.
Michelson argued its not just about having a large penis; its what that penis signifies. Having a big dick means that youre masculine and you wield a lot of power, because we assign so much power to the phallus itself, he told me. Youre a dominator and a conqueror. Michelson said that this idea is largely informed by pornography, a strong force in shaping desire in the gay community; but for those who dont fit into that porn culture, it leads to a feeling of being left out. Its totally a lottery, Michelson explained. And you either win it or you dont.
According to Jaime Woo, author of the book Meet Grindr, which explores how men interact on mobile hookup applications, that game can have very negative consequences for queer men who find themselves on the losing side. Thats why the size issue can seem even more fraught in the gay community than among heterosexuals. In gay male culture, your sexual worth is very tied to your worth in the community overall, Woo said. We dont have a lot of structure in place for men who arent sexually valuable, and they disappear into the background. Gay men have enough issues already, and this is just another way for them to feel bad about themselves, if theyre not packing eight inches under their pants.
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Penis politics: Sex, size and stereotypes in the gay community (Original Post)
xchrom
Jan 2014
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mitchtv
(17,718 posts)1. I've lost an inch
in stature, that is.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)2. To me it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy
If the guy has a big penis and a big ego... well that's why.
If the guy has a small penis and is unsure of themselves,.. clearly that's why too.
If the guy has a big penis and is shy... well clearly he's just quietly confident.
If the guy has a small penis and a big ego... clearly that's why as well.