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no_hypocrisy

(46,094 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:10 AM Jun 2013

Life Before Marriage: Why You're Not An Adult Until You Tie The Knot

It wasn’t until my 30th birthday approached that I began to feel the first real impulse to get hitched. My career was thriving, but still, I sensed a barrier. It soon became apparent that my unmarried status was preventing me from being taken seriously as an adult and a professional. I was trapped in relationship purgatory.

Don’t get me wrong: it’s not like I was blatantly ostracized. I wasn’t sent to the kiddie table or anything. But my colleagues weren’t that much more subtle. Answers to, "When's he going to pop the question?" or the classic, "Why aren't you married yet?” were demanded of me, insinuating that something must be wrong with me if my boyfriend hadn't proposed after all this time. If I dared to express my ambivalence about weddings and marriage, I was often met with disbelief. And not just from colleagues, but from friends too.

-snip-

Of course, my stock quickly rose as soon as I exchanged my scarlet "S" for a sapphire engagement ring. Just like that, the same people who once made me feel pathetic for being ring-less suddenly admired me. It was like the door to an exclusive club had opened up to me. And membership had its privileges.

Suddenly, I had celebrity status among colleagues, friends -- even bosses. I was the most popular girl at any cocktail party, work event or meeting, and it wasn't just because they were vying for a wedding invite; I was celebrated just as much by acquaintances.

-more-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/life-before-marriage-why-_n_3386714.html


I'm over 50 and never married. I've noted an overall attitude about marriage that differs from when I was in my twenties: it "legitimizes" like the article propounds. Almost all female teachers in my school system are "Mrs.", not "Ms." My title is rarely Ms., but Mrs. not only as an assumption, but even after I have announced I'm a Ms. It's like because of my age, nobody wants to "invalidate" me by suggesting that at my age I never "managed" to get married. Also almost universally, on the younger female teachers' desks are their wedding photos.

I don't begrudge their happiness and excitement of being a couple, a team, their husbands. Not at all. But I can't help but notice the marriage fever and its use as defining who we are as women. I thought we were beyond that. Apparently I was wrong.

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Life Before Marriage: Why You're Not An Adult Until You Tie The Knot (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jun 2013 OP
When I was single it felt madaboutharry Jun 2013 #1
I'm 36, never married JoDog Jun 2013 #8
Mine is an antique Ainsley, discontinued in the 30's. I bought it. Much easier than marrying. Squinch Jun 2013 #17
There are more single women today (as a percentage of the total population) fasttense Jun 2013 #2
This is the dumbest article Ive ever read. bunnies Jun 2013 #3
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who took it that way. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #5
This essay makes me want to puke, and I'm married. Jesus, this woman is immature Nay Jun 2013 #19
I'm with you, bunnies. If this is a serious article, I worry about women in their 20's. Squinch Jun 2013 #10
This woman sounds like a real dumb-ass. PassingFair Jun 2013 #16
Completely agree. HuffPo always has crap like this. Dash87 Jun 2013 #18
I'm in an 11 year relationship - monogamous, quite happy - I do not see the need to marry. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #4
Same situation for me. bunnies Jun 2013 #6
I have to admit, I feel like a sell-out REP Jun 2013 #9
My friend did the same thing: got married when she got breast cancer, because her Squinch Jun 2013 #11
Well REP Jun 2013 #12
Yes, but it's like carrying an umbrella: if you carry one, it won't rain. So keep knocking Squinch Jun 2013 #13
I'm 41 and can't see myself ever being married freeplessinseattle Jun 2013 #7
Back in the 80's when I was in my 20's MadrasT Jun 2013 #14
I have kinda found people that act like being un-married is a bad thing. Knightraven Jun 2013 #15

JoDog

(1,353 posts)
8. I'm 36, never married
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jun 2013

and I got myself a set of nice dishes. Lennox Simply Fine in the Chirp pattern, complete with teapot.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
2. There are more single women today (as a percentage of the total population)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:22 AM
Jun 2013

then ever in the history of our country. Women are remaining single because capitalism has destroyed the traditional family (not that that is all a bad thing) and women aren't putting up with being serfs at home and at work.

So, eventually the attitudes of society will have to adjust to the realities of society. But it may take some time. Illusions die slowly.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
3. This is the dumbest article Ive ever read.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:26 AM
Jun 2013

Seriously. What is this 1950? The day I need to be married to a man to "legitimize" myself is the day I'll go out and lay in the road. Maybe this author shouldnt even *be* working. Maybe she should just be home cooking & cleaning like a good little wife. Seems like she wants to drag us all back that era. This drivel makes me sick.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
5. Glad to see that I'm not the only one who took it that way.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:40 AM
Jun 2013

I felt like justifying my not being married after reading it. Crazy!

Nay

(12,051 posts)
19. This essay makes me want to puke, and I'm married. Jesus, this woman is immature
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:13 AM
Jun 2013

whether she gets married or not. I think her editor stint at the wedding magazine softened her brain or something.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
4. I'm in an 11 year relationship - monogamous, quite happy - I do not see the need to marry.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:39 AM
Jun 2013

Most of the people I went to school with in the US are now married (or already divorced).... Meanwhile, none but two of my European friends have done so.

I don't think I ever will... I just don't get the point... Maybe if we'll have kids there could be some legal reasons, but I think even that isn''t the case anymore (at least here).

This is the very first time in my life that I've asked myself why I'm not married. I does seem to be the default thing to do in my situation.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
6. Same situation for me.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 08:49 AM
Jun 2013

13 years.

I said this in another thread the other day, but dammit, Im gonna say it again. Theres something to be said for a perpetual courtship. Its actually very romantic. And Ive developed the ultimate (imho) response to those who feel the need to grill you about why youre not married. As if youre doing something unthinkable. I just say "because we love each other". The facial expressions you get when you say it are priceless.

If people dont get it, screw 'em. As long as youre happy thats all that matters. Marriage doesnt give you anything you dont already have.

REP

(21,691 posts)
9. I have to admit, I feel like a sell-out
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jun 2013

After 15 years, we got married. It was his idea; we had gotten to a point in our lives where actually owned things and we were entering our 40s (and at the time, he was having symptoms associated with MS, but, knock wood, seems to have just been iritis). Rather than spend a small fortune for a lawyer to draw up every legal document we might need, getting married was cheaper and easier (and more fun). So I agreed, even though I have never wanted to be married and disapprove of the idea of state sanction of my union, etc.

It didn't change anything about us, though, as I had to explain to people (remember, at that point, we'd been together 15 years) except we had more jewelry (I love jewelry and he likes the symbol, so whatever). But it really annoys me that anyone thinks that a party and signing a legal contract somehow changed our 15-year relationship into a "real" one, like all those years together were nothing.

As for work, well, I'm retired but he says he was regarded as more "adult" once he had a real life wife instead of an SO. Which pisses him off for the same reasons I get pissed.

So there you go.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
11. My friend did the same thing: got married when she got breast cancer, because her
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

long term live in partner's (now her husband's) insurance was better.

THAT is a good reason to marry.

Telling yourself that people are taking you seriously now that you're engaged when they previously didn't? That's a really dumb reason.

REP

(21,691 posts)
12. Well
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

I'm knocking wood so hard the neighbors across the road just said, "come in," but it seems as though his health scare was just that: a really bad scare. We bought a house and remodeled it, so there's no money anymore , so aside from me now having dental insurance, there hardly seems any point to having gone through the damn thing!

But yeah, totally agree. Being taken seriously because I'm "Mrs Somebody" (I'm not - I kept my name, since getting married didn't change who I AM!) doesn't even register as a reason to legally chain bind yourself to someone.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
13. Yes, but it's like carrying an umbrella: if you carry one, it won't rain. So keep knocking
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jun 2013

that wood, and all good thoughts to both of you!

And dental insurance rocks!

PS: I don't think I said this: my friend is clear for 5 years now.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
7. I'm 41 and can't see myself ever being married
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:12 AM
Jun 2013

For one thing, I love living alone! (without humans, that is).

Every May I thank my lucky stars I didn't follow through on my engagement at age 19 to an insane man who certainly did nothing to validate my worth. Now I am so grateful I finally saw the light and began the journey to really loving myself.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
14. Back in the 80's when I was in my 20's
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:26 AM
Jun 2013

I felt like I had to get married to prove I wasn't a reject freak that no one wanted. Or something.

I was married for 20 years, and I am not married now, and I like "not married" much better.

It always seemed like he and I would get alone much better if we weren't actually married... but we never got to find out because he died right after we got divorced.

I miss him but I don't miss "being married"... I feel more more like a widow than a divorcee.

Knightraven

(268 posts)
15. I have kinda found people that act like being un-married is a bad thing.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:54 AM
Jun 2013

Yet, when they find I am "bi', they seem to see me being not married is O.K.

I would think we were beyond much of the stigmas and biases by now.

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