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Related: About this forumKale? Juicing? Trouble Ahead
Imagine my shock, then, at my last physical, when my doctor told me I had hypothyroidism, common in women over 40. When I got home I looked up the condition on the Internet and found a list of foods to avoid. Kale, which I juiced every morning, tops the list, followed by broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, Brussels sprouts and collard greens the cruciferous vegetables I consumed in large quantities because they are thought to prevent cancer, which runs in my family. And flax as in the seeds high in omega 3s, that I sprinkled on cereal and blended in strawberry almond milk smoothies. Also forbidden: almonds and strawberries, not to mention soy, peaches, peanuts, corn, radishes, rutabaga and spinach.
And then, as if my world was not sufficiently rocked, I went to the dentist, who said I had five cavities and asked if I snacked on candy and sodas all day long. I was insulted. Indignant. What did he take me for? No, I answered. I dont eat sugar and drink only fresh vegetable juices no longer kale, of course, but carrot and celery, which Im still allowed. And filtered water with lemon.
Youd be better off with chocolate and cola, he said. Apparently the natural sugars in fruit and vegetable juices can cause decay, and lemon, though high in vitamin C and bioflavonoids which may prevent cancer, had eroded the enamel that protected my teeth.
I argued that I always brushed afterward. Worst thing you can do, he said. Thats when the teeth are most vulnerable. Always wait half an hour after eating or drinking anything before brushing your teeth. And dont brush more than twice daily. Youre destroying what little enamel you have left.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/kale-juicing-trouble-ahead/?hp&rref=opinion/international
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I knew about soy, and don't care about rutabagas, but darn near everything else on that list is a favorite.
I'm running out of things to eat.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)from the latest fad you'll be healthy as a horse.
People need to lay off the bullshit, eat a well balanced diet and forget every now and again what some dude wrote in a book.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)mucifer
(23,576 posts)mentioning.
I think I will go to my doctor and have my levels checked.
I'd rather be on more levothyroxine and get vitamin B 12 injections than kill animals.
We all make choices.
The NIH just suggests not taking in lots of soy. I can do that. It doesn't say anything about the other veggies you mentioned.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000353.htm
I really need to talk with my doctor.
elleng
(131,196 posts)and not concerned about 'fads.' I take levothyroxine.
Saw the article, and thought people would be interested in it. Also expected contrary/etc discussion.
mucifer
(23,576 posts)I wasn't the one who called what you are doing a "fad" BTW.
Maybe my doc could make a referral to a good dietician.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)and have persistently low TSH (and energy, and problems with weight). I've been moving around and every time I see a new doctor he/she adjusts my dosage up or down--even when T3 and T4 are within range--and yet the TSH never changes. I'm just curious if you have any insight.
elleng
(131,196 posts)Same dosage for a long time, I haven't followed my numbers tho my doc does. No real problems with energy, rarely really high, and no real problems with weight. SHOULD exercise more, but motivation may be more emotional than physical.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Nobody else seems to have any idea either. Thanks anyway.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)hypothalmus-pituitary-thyroid loop isn't communicating properly, which means the doctor should be concentrating on keeping your T3 and T4 levels near the upper end of "normal" instead of focusing on TSH.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I think you are right, that the issue is not the thyroid per se. I have an appointment next week with my newest doctor so maybe we can make some progress.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)That's rare (or believed to be rare), but if you've got a series of blood tests suggesting your TSH isn't responsive to your T3/T4 dose, it's a possibility that should be considered.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I've been struggling with this for years, and getting nowhere. As I said above, moving around/changing doctors a lot hasn't helped.
I've got some research to do. Thanks again.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)supplement with iodine and still get all the really good stuff from those important veggies?
Lex
(34,108 posts)for them to have any negative effect like that.
applegrove
(118,838 posts)elleng
(131,196 posts)ya know!!!
applegrove
(118,838 posts)apple, banana and a little stevia. I will leave out the lemon juice and stevia next time. I don't need it near as sweet.
twirlybird
(9 posts)There is big money in scaring us to act in ways that will make them richer.
No matter what you do..these "professionals" will always tell you you are doing it wrong. At one time in our history doctors recommended smoking cigarettes. They're all "professionals" alright...among the world's oldest professions.