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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:53 PM Feb 2016

I can no longer take the meds for my shingles pain...

I've reached a point where I can't tolerate the higher dosages. I'm shaky and have involuntary twitching when I lie down. I got scared and made an appt. with my neuro who is fine with my decision but says to taper off, not quit cold. He had me on Gabapenten and Percoset. He was sorry that shingles is so difficult to treat otherwise but right now I'm scared off having anything more. I'll just take Ibuprofin or plain tylenol.

In a way, I'm glad it turned out this way. So many people get addicted and can't quit without serious withdrawal. I realized I was getting less and less pain relief as I took more and then got dizzy and my hands started to shake. So my intolerance is a blessing in disguise. I'm spared a real problem that unfortunately, many others are not.

my body was clearly telling me something...

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I can no longer take the meds for my shingles pain... (Original Post) CTyankee Feb 2016 OP
And, as you taper off you may find the symptoms of taking the meds are better than randys1 Feb 2016 #1
well, I have to taper off for two weeks so hopefully by that time I'll be down to very few CTyankee Feb 2016 #4
I took gabapentin for nerve pain in my legs years ago Mojorabbit Feb 2016 #34
Is it Tressors (sp?)? CTyankee Feb 2016 #36
I don''t see that on label Mojorabbit Feb 2016 #37
I took a combination of Ibuprophen (500 or 1000) PLUS Tylenol flor-de-jasmim Feb 2016 #2
How far along are you in the shingles process yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #3
this has been going on since Nov. 7, so it is more like 3 months and doc fears I am in CTyankee Feb 2016 #5
Oh my god! I wasn't expecting that answer. yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #6
well, as I said, I'm just glad I'm no longer going to be drugged and be unable to CTyankee Feb 2016 #8
You might want to look up side effects of Gabapenten dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #25
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Feb 2016 #35
Been there... done that, but found relief with acupuncture. procon Feb 2016 #20
Acupuncture is effective for shingles. nt bananas Feb 2016 #32
There is a minor bit of good news about post herpetic neuralgia Warpy Feb 2016 #22
I will ask my neuro about those... CTyankee Feb 2016 #29
It's a two hour procedure that has to be done under local anesthesia Warpy Feb 2016 #33
I'm still post-herpatic and I had shingles in 1994. Laffy Kat Feb 2016 #23
Ask your doc about taking magnesium dorkzilla Feb 2016 #7
magnesium has an unwanted laxative effect on me which I don't need right now...but CTyankee Feb 2016 #10
Totally understand dorkzilla Feb 2016 #12
I don't know whether this would be helpful or whether you might already snagglepuss Feb 2016 #9
what he recommended will take me off faster than that and I'm glad... CTyankee Feb 2016 #11
Oh golly, yank, you could write a BOOK, elleng Feb 2016 #13
I wouldn't want to revisit it enough to write it...I should start a support group, tho... CTyankee Feb 2016 #15
Have you tried medical marijuana? femmedem Feb 2016 #14
I was wondering about that but I am not sure of CT laws about it... CTyankee Feb 2016 #16
Here's a bit about it in Conn: elleng Feb 2016 #17
the only thing is I don't know if this is "medically approved" or not...I think my neuro would have CTyankee Feb 2016 #18
Not necessarily. I have friends with conditions on the approved list femmedem Feb 2016 #24
For people reading this, talk to your physician about the Shingle Vaccine. A friend NCjack Feb 2016 #19
I am so sorry, CTyankee. brer cat Feb 2016 #21
thank you brer cat, I appreciate your support... CTyankee Feb 2016 #30
I'm sorry to hear how the pharmaceutical industry has failed you. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #26
So sorry you are still suffering, CTyankee. femmocrat Feb 2016 #27
What antiviral are you taking for the shingles? I thought the sinkingfeeling Feb 2016 #28
too late for that. I was on pain meds, gapatenin and percoset. CTyankee Feb 2016 #31

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. And, as you taper off you may find the symptoms of taking the meds are better than
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:57 PM
Feb 2016

the pain, so keep the meds just in case.

I remember taking Oxycontin once and my legs would go crazy as I lay in bed, sleep was almost impossible for long periods.

But the pain relief may well be necessary vs the symptoms.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. well, I have to taper off for two weeks so hopefully by that time I'll be down to very few
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016

dosages. The doc did tell me no to just quit. He said I'd have problems...

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
34. I took gabapentin for nerve pain in my legs years ago
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016

and it messed with my head. The floor looked like it was 3 feet from my eyes and that made it impossible to walk or keep my balance. I hope you get some relief. My neuro told me I was going to have to go to a pain clinic if my post shingles pain did not go away two years ago but it finally did. I hope your pain disappears too! My GP gave me a cream from a compounding pharmacy. It has a lot of meds dissolved in it and it really helped me. If you are interested, I can see if I can find it and let you know the particulars.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
37. I don''t see that on label
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

What I have is compounded by medimix pharmacy. has keto10%,baclofen2%, gab5%(prob gabapentin),lidocaine2.5%,menthol2%
It really helped me. You rub it on, Let it sit for twenty min, and then wipe it off.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
2. I took a combination of Ibuprophen (500 or 1000) PLUS Tylenol
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

Neither on its own seemed to be as effective as the two of them together.
Good luck!!

Just found the following -- NO IDEA if it will help:
Foods with Arginine
Foods high in the amino acid arginine tend to promote the growth of the shingles virus, reports WholeHealth Chicago, an integrative medicine center. Especially problematic are foods that are high in arginine and low in lysine, an amino acid that helps balance arginine in the body. During an outbreak, avoid nuts and seeds, soy foods, chocolate, oats, wheat germ, coconut, carob, whole-wheat and white flour, and gelatin, according to homeopathic practitioner Gabrielle Traub.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. How far along are you in the shingles process
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:01 PM
Feb 2016

I understand they are about 3 weeks so you might be almost done I hope.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. this has been going on since Nov. 7, so it is more like 3 months and doc fears I am in
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

or close to the Posthermetic Neuralgia zone. I'll see him again in 4 weeks and we'll have a definite diagnosis by then...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. well, as I said, I'm just glad I'm no longer going to be drugged and be unable to
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

use my keyboard because of my hand tremor and staying in bed for half the day with involuntary twitching in my arms and legs...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. You might want to look up side effects of Gabapenten
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

"blurred/double vision, unusual eye movements, or shaking (tremor) may occur. "

I started it but then stopped after reading the side effects.

procon

(15,805 posts)
20. Been there... done that, but found relief with acupuncture.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

Second time around and I had what I thought was a very mild case of shingles with little discomfort and just a slight rash and only a couple of blisters. But as the symptoms faded the constant pain began and I tried all the usual OTC and RX meds and topicals with a depressing and frustrating lack of pain relief that persisted for almost 5 months. I couldn't sleep, could barely move, lost over 20lbs, and out of desperation I made an appointment with an acupuncturist.

I had no idea if it would help, but when I started to explain my problem the doctor assured me that acupuncture is very effective for reducing or eliminating shingles pain. He was right. After the first session my pain gradually reduced by about 50% over the next few days, by the 2nd treatment the pain was even more diminished, and by the third session the pain was probably 90% gone.

Just another option you can consider and I hope you find relief.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
22. There is a minor bit of good news about post herpetic neuralgia
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

and that is that most people who develop it improve over time. You might want a referral to a pain clinic in the meantime because that's who can give you things like the ultra high dose capsaicin patches, a two hour procedure that can kill the pain for as long as three months. There are always alternatives out there.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
33. It's a two hour procedure that has to be done under local anesthesia
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

because when I say ultra high dose, I mean it. There are also lidocaine patches, which I mentioned before, expensive but can provide temporary relief. You might find that you're still getting benefit from a lower gabapentin dose while you taper, but without the bothersome side effects. Opiates do lose their effectiveness if you take them around the clock. There is no upper limit on opiate dosage but docs get really nervous about the DEA when it starts getting up there. That's the other thing a pain clinic can do for you, titrate the opiates so you're getting maximum relief.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
23. I'm still post-herpatic and I had shingles in 1994.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

But it's not that bad and I can live with it. I had it on the left side of my head and although terrible at the time, now I just get headaches there when I'm tired or haven't slept well for a while. It's kind of like a warning to slow down and rest. It does get better, I promise. Hang in there.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
7. Ask your doc about taking magnesium
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

The magnesium and gabapentin have pretty much cured my involuntary twitching which is one of my MS symptoms. I can't take any kind of opiates...they make me cuckoo birds. The magnesium also hoped the pain a LOT.

Sorry you're going through this.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. magnesium has an unwanted laxative effect on me which I don't need right now...but
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

I appreciate your thinking about me...

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
9. I don't know whether this would be helpful or whether you might already
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

be doing this as far as tapering off the meds. I was once on a medication that required tapering off and what my doctor had me do is everyday dissolve one pill in 8 oz of water then remove 1 teaspoon of the solution and drink the rest. The 2nd week remove 2 teaspoons. And so on.

Many years ago I had what the doctor said was shingles along the nerves in my skull/brain. It cleared up but I can understand the pain you are suffering. All the best to you.



femmedem

(8,201 posts)
14. Have you tried medical marijuana?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

There's some evidence it's effective for shingles pain.

So sorry you're going through this. Shingles put my mother through hell.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. the only thing is I don't know if this is "medically approved" or not...I think my neuro would have
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

told me...he was just nonplussed...

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
24. Not necessarily. I have friends with conditions on the approved list
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:57 PM
Feb 2016

who had to go from doctor to doctor to get their prescription. Some doctors just don't want to write the script.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
19. For people reading this, talk to your physician about the Shingle Vaccine. A friend
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

of mine got shingles and it went into her eyes. It destroyed her remaining quality of life. She called all of her friends and begged them to promise to get the vaccine.

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
21. I am so sorry, CTyankee.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

I remember your posts when this first started and I thought it would be over soon. You have been put through the wringer. I hope something will give you comfort without the side effects of the drugs you have been taking.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
26. I'm sorry to hear how the pharmaceutical industry has failed you.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

It's a shame that natural (as from nature) is so poo pooed here on DU.

Trust your body.

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