Anyone watching Borgia?

[NV Whino]

What the heck is the giant pinecone?

[jannyk]

1. I was going to start this tonight - how is it?

...apart from the 'pine cone'.

[NV Whino]

2. Pretty raw at times

Hard to keep track of all the cardinals. Rodrigo's flat American accent bothered me at first, but I got used to it.

Still watching it, though.

But do explain the pine cone if you can. Pines of Rome maybe?

[HubertHeaver]

3. On cable?

Who is broadcasting it?

[jannyk]

4. No, it's streaming on Netflix.

[HubertHeaver]

12. Thanks

[NV Whino]

5. Netfix streaming

[HubertHeaver]

11. Thanks

[petronius]

6. During the intro? (I only just started watching)

I think it's this: http://touritaly.org/tours/vaticanmuseum/Vatican06.htm

A bronze sculpture from the 1st or 2nd Century...

[NV Whino]

7. That's it. Thanks

Still doesn't explain why a sculpture of a giant pinecone. But now I know what to search for.

[petronius]

8. I googled a bit - I didn't see any reason for the man to walk up and kiss the sculpture,

or for that small group to prostrate themselves a moment earlier (IIRC it was the scene when the naked cardinal arrived), but my guess is that it's people who can't go inside the Vatican directing unstructured worship at the buildings and grounds that contain the post - using the site as proxy for the holiness contained within...

On edit: Cool show, by the way, thanks for mentioning it! I was bothered by Rodrigo's accent (and demeanor) a bit at first too, until I realized that most of the dissonance was because I've been watching The Wire recently as well. Also, I noticed that a lot of the other accents, although European, are at least as wrong as Doman's.

[jberryhill]

9. Just finished it

If you like Borgia, you would like Tudors.

[jannyk]

10. Just watched 2 episodes

..not sure if I'm going to watch more, though I probably will. It's just ok.

As the for the giant pine cone - I've seen it in several scenes now - but never heard it mentioned.

[jannyk]

13. Would you believe it - my husband loves it and we watched 4 more eps tonight.

It does get somewhat better and only 6 more to go........

[jberryhill]

14. "Would you believe it - my husband loves it"

I can't imagine why.

I'm not much for historical dramas, but I thoroughly enjoyed this and Tudors.

[Viva]

15. the pinecone

I like to think that it is all about the pine nuts

That pine cone which much have been wondrous when a part of a working fountain, is a symbol of the Vatican and the pope himself -- Gods eyes on earth.

The pine cone is on the coat of arms of the Holy See and I would venture to say that that crown he wears is pine cone like. The pine cone has long history of representing the inner eye or third eye or Pineal gland or maybe even the Holy See. Check out this sight -- http://www.conesandstones.com/historical-symbolism.html

So next time you eat pesto, remember that you are feeding your perceptions.