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catbyte Mar 2019 #1
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janterry Mar 2019 #3
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safeinOhio Mar 2019 #6
TygrBright Mar 2019 #7

Response to TEB (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:02 AM

1. First off, congratulations. Second, doesn't it piss you off when a doctor comes in

and completely effs up a perfectly good treatment plan? I had a similar experience years ago with my pain clinic. My doctor changed clinics, so I tried staying with the clinic. The new doctor tried messing with my treatment, which was a disaster. I ended up following my old doctor to the new clinic, and it allowed me to keep working another 15 years until I retired. I had to drive farther, but it was worth it.

Again, congratulations! Give the boog a scritch under the chin for me.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:16 AM

4. It is happening to me now about using Lorazepam to help me sleep

Without a night's sleep of 8 hours I cannot function. If you have never experienced this you would not understand how zombie like you feel without enough sleep. I am nearing 90 and I do not want to spend the time I have left on being miserable. Everything is under suspicion now because of the opiate epidemic.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:08 AM

2. The new Dr at least needs to develop a working relationship with you

before changing what is working for you.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:11 AM

3. AA is bad science

For those that like it (and I've known quite a few). Well, good for them!

But that does not negate the fact that - you are right. AA does not have scientific backing. There is no reason to recommend something that we have shown, does not work.

Tell Doc B do they believe in 'evidenced-based medicine?' (that's a dumb rhetorical question.

Then hand them this: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/

If you feel as though you need additional support - get it. If you feel as though you could benefit from therapy - meet with someone. If you had liked the companionship of AA - well, sure. Go there.

But you don't have to do that to ensure your sobriety.

Doc B doesn't know what they are talking about.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:46 AM

5. Hope your old doc comes thru

Itís probably not the insurance company as Naltrexone is a cheap generic.
I take it off label for weight loss. It helps curb food cravings like it does other cravings. Hope my (very nice) doc renews it next month for another 90 days.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:49 AM

6. AA works for some.

30 years ago I had the best shrink in the world. He suggested meetings for about a month and then move on.
I really feel I owe my life to him. Great man.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:27 AM

7. Doctors who "want to help" can sometimes be part of the problem.

Even doctors who are well-intentioned and somewhat familiar with addiction and recovery have one big thing working against them, which is their expectation (as doctors) that they are all about "fixing" problems.

You're doing something that works for you. It keeps you from drinking, which is your goal. If YOU are okay with how it's working for you, if having that goal met is what you want, why offer "better options"?

If/when you feel a need for something more than not drinking, if/when you experience side effects or feel like the medication is no longer working for you, if/when YOU feel like trying something else, then YOU will find something else that works for you. You know what's available, you know what works for you.

And you also know how/where to ask for help exploring other options if/when you feel that's appropriate for you.

And that's really all you need.

Doctors very often fail to grasp the principle that you can't "help" a person recover based on your own ideas of recovery. Then some of them get offended and blame "the patient" for rejecting their help.

Maybe doctors should study Alanon... There's a suggestion! Next time you run across a doc pushing recovery fellowship on you, tell 'em you'll give it a try after the doc him/herself has a year of solid Alanon under their belt.

Anyway, good for you, keep doin' what works for you, and keep sharing your boog and your recovery with DU!

appreciatively,
Bright

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