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Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:31 PM

Anyone ever heard of a spontaneous rose bush growing?

I am 95% sure a sucker rose bush is growing off my existing rose bush. I understand suckers and runners on plants, and the leaves certainly look like roses. I'd love to have this bush spread out as much as possible right now so I'm going to leave it be.

But now, in a completely different part of the yard, in the flower beds I just created from scratch, another bush-type thing appears to be growing, and I swear it's the exact same plant! I've never heard of rose bushes growing spontaneously like that and when I search google under "spontaneous rose bush" I don't get anything aside from occasional hits about suckers and runners. AFAICT, it's almost impossible to grow them from seed.

Have any of you ever heard of such a thing happening, a rose bush just growing spontaneously?

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intheflow Jun 2013 OP
femmocrat Jun 2013 #1
intheflow Jun 2013 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #2
Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #4
intheflow Jun 2013 #5
Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #6
intheflow Jun 2013 #8
RILib Jun 2013 #7

Response to intheflow (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:34 PM

1. Could it be a wild rose?

We get those here. The birds eat the rose hips and then they spread everywhere. They grow along the fence line here and they get huge. They have white flowers and are very fragrant when in bloom. They are pretty, but also a nuisance.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:37 PM

3. I live on the Colorado plains.

I've never seen any wild roses in the neighborhood, though I have seen some along a creek about 5 miles away. I suppose it's a possibility. I really don't want it in this spot but don't have any place else for it and can't stand the thought of killing a rose bush!

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Response to intheflow (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:15 PM

2. If it's a wild rose it will sucker like crazy.

My yard is overrun with them.

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Response to intheflow (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:50 PM

4. Many cultivated roses are grown on rootstock

of roses that are not desirable. If the sucker is from one of these rootstocks, you would not get something that you would want. See this link for an explanation:

http://www.heirloomroses.com/care/rootstock/

But with that said, I have a rose bush that was grown from a cutting, and it also has other roses growing up around it. They will all be the same rose, since there is no rootstock that was used.

As to a rose bush in a different part of the yard, I cannot explain that. I have never heard of it, but have a feeling that the bush would not be very tame. There are some roses (at least in my area in Pa) that are invasive (multi-flora rose), and they are not something that you want growing....they spread like crazy.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:05 PM

5. Oh, I'm 100% sure the original rose reverted back to root stock!

This is only the second summer I've lived here, but the bush is well established and the flowers look like Dr. Huey. It probably went back to root stock long ago. As to the part in your link that talks about root stock leading to an aggressive climbing rose, this is exactly what I want in that area. The plot of land it's on is approximately 8'x3' and has the worst rocky-clay soil ever. Nothing else grows there! It's surrounded by concrete and along a fence. I built a trellis hoping it would be a climbing rose. A second one to fill in the area would be ideal!

The one in the front bed is worrisome, though. I'm going to give it another week or so and then try to transplant it to a place in the front of the house that gets relentless sun that kills everything. If it survives there, I'd be very, very happy. And if it dies, c'est la vie!

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Response to intheflow (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:26 PM

6. Good. If that is what you are hoping for,

let's hope you get it. And you are like me----there are areas where nothing grows, so if something will flourish, I am happy no matter what it is. Well, I lie. I have places that grew nothing, but I have found things that will grow like crazy, and all I want is it gone. "Watch what you wish for" was my mom's favorite saying, and it is appropriate here.

Rocky clay surrounded by concrete----sounds like a great place for portulaca.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:53 AM

8. Portulaca would probably grow there okay.

But I've planted some chives in the bed and will transplant some wild garlic bulbs that escaped from a neighbor's garden into my back yard in a holistic attempt to ward off aphids (who vexed me this year). I have some tulip bulbs that are doing very well there, and the iris I planted there last fall didn't die, even if they didn't bloom this first year. So I think the garlic should do pretty well there.

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Response to intheflow (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:32 PM

7. rootstock roses are quite lovely

 

At least the two I have that have reverted are. Big growers, lovely red.

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