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Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:56 AM

Neem oil -- banned in the UK. Are their studies valid?

I have been using Neem oil in the garden and now I'm reading that it's banned in the U.K. because it's a threat to pregnancy. Does anyone have information on this subject?

Why is Neem oil banned in UK?
Neem oil exposure may cause abortion or lead to infertility, and it may cause liver damage in children. Pesticides containing neem oil (Azadirachtin) are banned in the UK.Sep 9, 2016

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Reply Neem oil -- banned in the UK. Are their studies valid? (Original post)
Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 OP
Kali Jul 2020 #1
Ptah Jul 2020 #2
Backseat Driver Jul 2020 #3
Ponietz Jul 2020 #6
mahina Sep 1 #10
yellowcanine Jul 2020 #7
Major Nikon Jul 2020 #8
Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #4
WePurrsevere Jul 2020 #5
Backseat Driver Jul 2020 #9

Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:06 AM

1. organic/natural does NOT equal safe

science, it's not just for nerds

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:01 AM

2. Toxicity

Toxicity
The ingestion of neem oil is potentially toxic and can cause metabolic acidosis, seizures, kidney failure, encephalopathy and severe brain ischemia in infants and young children . Neem oil should not be consumed alone without any other solutions, particularly by pregnant women, women trying to conceive, or children. It can also be associated with allergic contact dermatitis.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neem_oil#Toxicity

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:20 AM

3. I just want to poison/smother the scale bugs that are sucking the juice out of my magnolias

I'm not likely to consume the oil or eat magnolia leaves and stems and long past a pregnancy, so maybe? So is it an effective and safe bug asphixicant? It's coming up on those suckers "crawler" stage - now just to order up a gallon or so and get the timing correct. Any idea what would work better?

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Response to Backseat Driver (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:11 AM

6. Have you tried insecticidal soap?

Last edited Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:49 PM - Edit history (1)

1/4 cup vegetable oil
Teaspoon dish soap
4 cups water

A hand sprayer works 👍🏼

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 05:28 PM

10. Thanks for the recipe. What pests does this work for

In your garden?

Thank you !

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Response to Backseat Driver (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:48 AM

7. Horticultural oil works on scale insects in the crawler stage.

It is safer than any pesticide, "natural" or otherwise.

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Response to Backseat Driver (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:45 PM

8. Horticultural oils aren't always neem

Many contain harmless oils that work by coating the insect and smothering it.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:43 AM

4. I don't think it is banned commercially

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:50 AM

5. Maybe this site will help a bit...

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Response to WePurrsevere (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 02:40 AM

9. Oh thanx - missed that one! I'll definitely read up!

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