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Has anyone read "The Arms of Krupp" ? (Original Post) backtoblue Aug 2019 OP
Yup. Many years ago. rickford66 Aug 2019 #1
Around 800 backtoblue Aug 2019 #4
Yes. sagesnow Aug 2019 #2
Thanks for the condensed version! backtoblue Aug 2019 #5
These were the arms merchants Jules Verne protested in so many of his books. eppur_se_muova Aug 2019 #3
I never realized that backtoblue Aug 2019 #6
If you liked the Arms of Krupp you might enjoy soryang Sep 2019 #7


(2,824 posts)
2. Yes.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:48 PM
Aug 2019

It's a great history of the family that owned the steelworks that became the German version of the Military Industrial Complex, supplying arms, tanks and munitions during WWI and supplying the Nazi's in WWII. If I recall, the Krupps were able to amass land after a Plague swept through their town, but I will have to reread it to refresh the details. Krupp supplied opposing sides of conflicts in Europe during WWI and sometimes sold defective armaments to the side Krupp least favored.
Spoiler alert: Here's a condensed version from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krupp to read after you finish the book.


(11,343 posts)
5. Thanks for the condensed version!
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:40 PM
Aug 2019

I've been taking notes, but that version will be extremely helpful!


(36,246 posts)
3. These were the arms merchants Jules Verne protested in so many of his books.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:01 PM
Aug 2019

Remember, most of his "evil villains" were actually seeking ways to stop war -- by being undefeatable with their super high-tech weapons. Seems like folly now.


(11,343 posts)
6. I never realized that
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:42 PM
Aug 2019

This is a new hobby/research that I've been doing. Greed, ambition, and arrogance can be so evil


(3,299 posts)
7. If you liked the Arms of Krupp you might enjoy
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:18 PM
Sep 2019

Adam Tooze's classic Wages of Destruction, An Economic History of the Third Reich.

Though Hitler from the start had advanced an economic program meant to help Germany’s poor, and though he paid for the war machine not by taxation but by a steady project of rationing and “rationalization,” the chief beneficiaries of his policies were rich and major corporations such as I.G. Farben and Porsche. And anyone who paid attention could have seen the war coming: Though it was on its face economically ruinous, Hitler had demanded in 1936 that the “German economy must be fit for war within four years,” and the state and economy obliged as best they could.

A strong contribution to the historical literature surrounding WWII and the Nazi era; indeed, one of the most significant to arrive in recent years.


Tooze describes among other things the powerful corporate committees of the Todt Organization which set the war production and rationing objectives of the Third Reich. Food rations in calories, meat, butter, etc., were determined by one's role in the economy. The Todt Organization was the institutional body that embodied the military industrial complex. The switch of the Nazi economic objective from consumer economics like electronics and Volkswagens to an untenable level of war production reminds one of current bait and switch politics on the right in the US.
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