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Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:18 PM

Has anyone read "The Arms of Krupp" ?

It's a fascinating biography about Essen's Krupp family. (Germany)

I'm about 1/3 through it.

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Reply Has anyone read "The Arms of Krupp" ? (Original post)
backtoblue Aug 29 OP
rickford66 Aug 29 #1
backtoblue Aug 29 #4
sagesnow Aug 29 #2
backtoblue Aug 29 #5
eppur_se_muova Aug 29 #3
backtoblue Aug 29 #6
soryang Sep 2 #7

Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:23 PM

1. Yup. Many years ago.

Wasn't it 400 or 500 pages ?

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Response to rickford66 (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:39 PM

4. Around 800

It's a huge read. I'm taking my time on it as it's got ALOT of information in it.


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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:48 PM

2. Yes.

It's a great history of the family that owned the steelworks that became the German version of the Military Industrial Complex, supplying arms, tanks and munitions during WWI and supplying the Nazi's in WWII. If I recall, the Krupps were able to amass land after a Plague swept through their town, but I will have to reread it to refresh the details. Krupp supplied opposing sides of conflicts in Europe during WWI and sometimes sold defective armaments to the side Krupp least favored.
Spoiler alert: Here's a condensed version from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krupp to read after you finish the book.

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Response to sagesnow (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:40 PM

5. Thanks for the condensed version!

I've been taking notes, but that version will be extremely helpful!

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:01 PM

3. These were the arms merchants Jules Verne protested in so many of his books.

Remember, most of his "evil villains" were actually seeking ways to stop war -- by being undefeatable with their super high-tech weapons. Seems like folly now.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:42 PM

6. I never realized that

This is a new hobby/research that I've been doing. Greed, ambition, and arrogance can be so evil

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Response to backtoblue (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:18 PM

7. If you liked the Arms of Krupp you might enjoy

Adam Tooze's classic Wages of Destruction, An Economic History of the Third Reich.

Though Hitler from the start had advanced an economic program meant to help Germany’s poor, and though he paid for the war machine not by taxation but by a steady project of rationing and “rationalization,” the chief beneficiaries of his policies were rich and major corporations such as I.G. Farben and Porsche. And anyone who paid attention could have seen the war coming: Though it was on its face economically ruinous, Hitler had demanded in 1936 that the “German economy must be fit for war within four years,” and the state and economy obliged as best they could.

A strong contribution to the historical literature surrounding WWII and the Nazi era; indeed, one of the most significant to arrive in recent years.


https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/adam-tooze/the-wages-of-destruction/

Tooze describes among other things the powerful corporate committees of the Todt Organization which set the war production and rationing objectives of the Third Reich. Food rations in calories, meat, butter, etc., were determined by one's role in the economy. The Todt Organization was the institutional body that embodied the military industrial complex. The switch of the Nazi economic objective from consumer economics like electronics and Volkswagens to an untenable level of war production reminds one of current bait and switch politics on the right in the US.

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