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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:21 PM Jul 2014

I am posting this here because this is the sort of story my friend Raindog would have been all over.

I am devastated by the news of her passing.

The only thing I can think of vis a vis DU right now is that the best way I can honor her memory is to carry on a little bit of the great work she did.

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2014/07/medical_marijuana_in_oregon_be.html

During his flight, Mackenzie used a morphine pump to control pain from what he said is stage-four angiosarcoma, a rare and especially deadly form of cancer that affects the blood vessel lining. He said he hopes to rely less on narcotics once he obtains cannabis oil from one of Oregon’s medical marijuana dispensaries.


Here's a guy with terminal cancer, being prosecuted as a felon--- for growing pot. Almost certainly going to prison. Your tax dollars, the drug war at work.

http://qctimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/mackenzie-family-found-guilty-at-marijuana-trial/article_5d4ada2b-1946-5fc2-9718-c1efd59777d8.html

A jury found Benton Mackenzie and his family guilty Wednesday at their marijuana trial without hearing a medical defense he tried so desperately to introduce


http://qctimes.com/news/local/walton-defends-prosecution-of-mackenzie-family/article_d356a740-83d1-5196-b4b3-d2437cd31a74.html

Mackenzie said he took the plea in 2011 to avoid going to trial on more charges and likely going to prison if found guilty.

"I just needed to be able to stop this legal battle and start addressing my cancer," Mackenzie said. "If I only get two years of probation, I can survive that."

...

With Mackenzie's prior record taken into account under the "habitual offender" status, he faces a total of 15 years in prison when he is sentenced Aug. 28. Walton said at least three years of that is mandatory.


...15 years.



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I am posting this here because this is the sort of story my friend Raindog would have been all over. (Original Post) Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 OP
Have to have customers for our for profit prison system, i guess randys1 Jul 2014 #1
Apparently they have "no choice" but to send this very sick guy to prison for a very long time Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #2
We have a choice to NEVER shut up, NEVER stop screaming about how insane this is randys1 Jul 2014 #5
Well, I'll say this much. I remember bringing pot legalization up in discussions here around 2006-7 Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #7
Sounds like what was said when randys1 Jul 2014 #9
Bingo. A very similar "evolution". Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #10
There is such a thing as right and wrong. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #17
"People respect political parties more when they take a stand" Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #19
lol, many were trying to legalize it in the early '70's wordpix Aug 2014 #22
I joined NORML back in the 70s when I was a teenager Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #23
To these people, I would say, why did God make pot? Did he make a mistake? Or did he make DocwillCuNow Jul 2014 #15
Our drug laws go back to the days when the local preacher would scream at the sherrif randys1 Jul 2014 #20
K and R, Warren. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #3
DU's loss, too. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #4
Amen.... daleanime Aug 2014 #27
Kicking for Raindog, and very proud that Oregon can bring some relief to Mr Mckenzie Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #6
Yeah. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #8
K&R and thank you for posting this here. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #11
Yeah. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #12
I am scheduled to address city council in a few weeks on decriminalization Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #14
That's awesome. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #16
For Raindog, K&R! Always educating us. Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #13
Sorry for the loss of your friend, Warren. I'm sorry for DU's loss as well. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #18
To RainDog, I'm sorry for your suffering, thanks for your service and peace to you. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #21
Raindog knew legalization was not back-burner... Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #24
Another crack in the prohibition dam: Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #25
This is a prime case to make mandatory sentencing unconstitutional. Warpy Aug 2014 #26

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Have to have customers for our for profit prison system, i guess
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jul 2014

and as long as WE tolerate this, it will keep happening

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
2. Apparently they have "no choice" but to send this very sick guy to prison for a very long time
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jul 2014

for growing pot for himself.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. We have a choice to NEVER shut up, NEVER stop screaming about how insane this is
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jul 2014

to anybody who will listen

to try and convince idiots to stop voting for rightwing dumbshits who think smoking a joint is a sin against a pretend god

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. Well, I'll say this much. I remember bringing pot legalization up in discussions here around 2006-7
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jul 2014

and people- not all people, but many- were like "what the fuck kind of issue is pot legalization! No one wants that, it'll never pass, it'll never happen, it's political suicide for our party to mention pot in any context other than arresting people!"

Yeah, well. I'm not always right, but I have a pretty good track record.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. Sounds like what was said when
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:33 PM
Jul 2014

LGBT issues were brought up or years before that African American civil rights issues

That you found such ignorance here at DU does not surprise me, at all

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. Bingo. A very similar "evolution".
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jul 2014

It's tough, some of us just evolved faster I guess.

(It's why it drives me crazy when it looks like certain well-known pols from our party run on that tired old bullshit "values voter" playbook that was already moldy even in the early 2000s... I'm like, PLEASE don't do that anymore)

LuvNewcastle

(16,862 posts)
17. There is such a thing as right and wrong.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jul 2014

Too often we get bogged down in talking about political expediency instead of discussing the rightness or wrongness of certain policies. We should champion what is right instead of worrying about what others might think about our ideas instead of worrying about what certain other people might think about our politics.

If people want to criticize us for our political positions, it will be time to educate them on why we have those positions instead of wringing our hands and cringing in the corner. We have a lot more moral authority when we do this rather than using third-way style people pleasing efforts.

People respect political parties more when they take a stand. That's the only reason the GOP has gotten this far. No matter how wrong it is, they do take stands on issues, and people respect that, no matter how screwed up they may be. Give people something to fight for, and they will join you.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
23. I joined NORML back in the 70s when I was a teenager
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:34 PM
Aug 2014

Not knowing they were going to start mailing stuff to my house.

I thought my mother was going to have a stroke.

Just 2 years ago, she went on a rant about MMJ, calling it the "devil's gateway" (literally). Today, she finds herself moved by the kids with Dravets and other seizure disorders and is 110% on board - but the "don't get you high, just help the kids" flavor. That, and the fact that I had cancer - or so I think?

People are coming around.

 

DocwillCuNow

(162 posts)
15. To these people, I would say, why did God make pot? Did he make a mistake? Or did he make
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jul 2014

it so the dinosaurs and cave men could make peace together..... some 9000 years ago.... or something like that.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
20. Our drug laws go back to the days when the local preacher would scream at the sherrif
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jul 2014

that on Saturday night all the men spent it in the saloon or opium den and on sunday had no money to put in the church coffers

So, drug and alcohol laws were invented...

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
14. I am scheduled to address city council in a few weeks on decriminalization
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jul 2014

Never would have accepted that invite if it wasn't for her helping me flesh through talking points to make the best case as succinctly as humanly possible. Her way with words was an incredible gift.

LuvNewcastle

(16,862 posts)
18. Sorry for the loss of your friend, Warren. I'm sorry for DU's loss as well.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jul 2014

I interacted with Raindog a couple of times, but I didn't know her. I guess that was my loss. I hope Raindog finds a permanent place in your heart as you deal with her passing.

Uncle Joe

(58,469 posts)
21. To RainDog, I'm sorry for your suffering, thanks for your service and peace to you.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:59 AM
Jul 2014



Thanks for the thread, Warren DeMontague.
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
24. Raindog knew legalization was not back-burner...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 11:55 PM
Aug 2014

It is CORE to so many "big" issues: The WOD is central to the gross disruption of society in C. American countries; it contributes hugely to illegal immigration to the U.S., and the tens of thousands killed in Mexico; it taxes our own LEOs and has led directly to their militarization; and it has worst of all resulted in tens of thousands of poor people, esp. those of color, filling our prisons.

We need to push hard. I've been a paying member of the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) for almost 20 yrs, but make your own stand and contribute as you wish. The next year is critical in the states; national action looks tougher as the threat of RW dominance is real. We should all carry on Raindog's work.

Warpy

(111,397 posts)
26. This is a prime case to make mandatory sentencing unconstitutional.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:49 AM
Aug 2014

In any case, it could keep him out of prison as it drags its way through the courts. Judges hate mandatory minimums. Everybody hates them except rigid Republicans who have never considered the many grey areas that call for longer and shorter terms.

He should get time served and a dollar fine.

It serves no one in this whole country to have him die in prison.

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