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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:31 AM Jun 2013

Guns & the law

The law serves a vital purpose in society. Laws act as guidelines for law enforcement. Laws dictate who can and should be detained and referred to the courts for alleged violations. Laws then act as criteria for prosecutors and juries in the fixing of charges and determination of guilt.

The law also serves another purpose for society in general. Those inclined to remain lawful can use our laws as a key to do so. We have laws like speed limits. The law abiding among us remain within the speed limit when we drive. The speed limit does not cause those who don't care to remain lawful to change. The speed limit guides those who do in knowing how to remain lawful and guides the police and courts in fairly convicting those who don't.

How does this relate the guns? Gun control laws don't cause us to "become" good lawful people.

Laws are important but they don't turn bad folks into good folks. I don't know how anyone else would feel but attributing my own guilt free status regarding not having murdered anyone with a gun simply to the existence of a law is very insulting.

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Guns & the law (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 OP
Laws are both negative and positive reinforcement. rrneck Jun 2013 #1
Negative and positive reinforcement? virginia mountainman Jun 2013 #2
Yep. It's a two way street. ntt rrneck Jun 2013 #3
Guess we don't need ANY LAWS of any kind! rdharma Jun 2013 #4
You guess poorly. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #5
And your line of argumentation FAILS completely! rdharma Jun 2013 #6
in other words, gejohnston Jun 2013 #7
wink wink... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #8
I have read his post three times and still can not make sense of it. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #9
It hasn't been edited enough. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #10
damn you, Eleanors38 !! -- Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #11
Have a bowl of Pho! Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #12
Actually you are right DWC Jun 2013 #13

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
1. Laws are both negative and positive reinforcement.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:39 AM
Jun 2013

The nature of the reinforcement is the result of the political process.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
2. Negative and positive reinforcement?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jun 2013

Sort of like the politicians in Colorado that are facing recall over their votes now?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
4. Guess we don't need ANY LAWS of any kind!
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jun 2013

After all, "Gun control laws don't cause us to "become" good lawful people." Right?!!!

Same goes for laws against murder. It's not the LAW that keeps GOOD people from killing. Right?!!!

Do you even think you are presenting a logical argument? Really?!!!

 

DWC

(911 posts)
13. Actually you are right
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jun 2013

"It's not the LAW that keeps GOOD people from killing (murdering)". It is Positive MORALS and ETHICS that keeps GOOD people form murdering.

Semper Fi

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