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Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:06 PM

This new right wing gun confiscation meme going around…

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/27/the-gun-confiscation-notice-nyc-resident-reportedly-received-will-likely-send-chills-down-your-spine/

Look I know this is a shady source and all but I'm seeing this all over the internet and I need someone to either debunk or confirm it. I can't find anything other than this shady story.

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Reply This new right wing gun confiscation meme going around… (Original post)
PeteSelman Nov 2013 OP
arcane1 Nov 2013 #1
PeteSelman Nov 2013 #9
littlewolf Nov 2013 #2
PeteSelman Nov 2013 #8
bowens43 Nov 2013 #3
hack89 Nov 2013 #4
Duckhunter935 Nov 2013 #6
upaloopa Nov 2013 #5
Lurks Often Nov 2013 #7
Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #10
friendly_iconoclast Nov 2013 #12
Ghost in the Machine Nov 2013 #13
Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #14
Common Sense Party Nov 2013 #15
gejohnston Nov 2013 #11
gejohnston Nov 2013 #16

Response to PeteSelman (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:11 PM

1. If the Blaze is the only source, then it's bullshitl.

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:44 PM

9. I figured that.

But on the off chance there were more I figured this would be the place to find out.

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Response to PeteSelman (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:12 PM

2. this is what I found.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/28/nyc-alarms-notice-immediately-surrender-your-rifle/

however it seems like they are only repeating the blaze.
you can go to the link and judge for yourself, I maybe wrong.

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Response to littlewolf (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:43 PM

8. Yeah, that's all I see.

The fact that they use "reportedly" in the headline is telling as well. It hasn't stopped the idiots from posting though.

Thanks for trying.

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Response to PeteSelman (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:27 PM

3. I wish we were confiscating guns...it's time.

 

All instances of gun violence have one thing in common.... a gun.

Ban the sale and manufacture of ALL ammunition and then begin confiscating.....

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:59 PM

4. Just got a nice new brown shirt you want to try out?

Or are you counting on the cops to kick in doors for you?

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Response to hack89 (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:17 PM

6. no one ever talks about

 

confiscation here. How many times have I heard that?

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:01 PM

5. I hate gun violence. I hate the fact that the person next to me

has a loaded gun in his pants.
I hate the idea that people go to places where other people are trying to do something about gun violence, carrying an
AR15.
As much as I hate those things I hate the idea that confiscating guns is a reasonable thing to do.
If we are going to reduce gun violence we need the help and support of gun owners.
Talking about confiscation further divides us and is not constructive.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:34 PM

7. Since you are so enthusiastic, we'll let you go through the door first

 

when it comes time for confiscation.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:47 PM

10. "We?"

 

Yeah, right...

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:24 AM

12. "we"? What guns will YOU be confiscating?

I'm pretty certain your "we" is the same "we" used by the likes of William Loeb, John Wayne,
Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney...

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 05:21 AM

13. Which one of your Constitutional Rights are YOU willing to give up in trade for wanting to take away

one of the rights of millions of other Americans??

Ghost

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:27 AM

14. So I guess you're going to be on one of the teams

 

that are doing the confiscation, right?
Or are you one of those chickenhawks that let others do the heavy lifting?

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 05:40 PM

15. All instances of gun violence have another thing in common.

Violence.

Take away the gun, you don't take away the violence.

And many, many people have been killed without guns.

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Response to PeteSelman (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:53 PM

11. The Blaze got it from

a gun blog called The Truth About Guns.

RZ says:
November 27, 2013 at 23:05

I am the original poster of this letter, which was lifted off of a FaceBook group I posted this on without my knowledge nor expressed permission, as it was received by my friend who chooses to have his name, address, and firearms serial numbers private for his own piece of mind and protection. Trust me when I say that it’s a real letter from the NYPD Pistol/Rifle Licensing Unit in Kew Gardens, Queens accompanied by another letter with the official NYPD seal which I did not include because it’s a typical canned letter stating NYC’s penal codes on firearms ownership.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/robert-farago/begins-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/#comment-1405025
It appears real, I'm still trying to find the Facebook post.
Why did the right wing media run with it? Simple, it serves their partisan interest. Just look at the rifles on the list. those are not "assault weapons" or "military grade" and most likely have never been used in any crime. They certainly are not the weapons of choice of drug dealers and gangsters. During the summer, the prohibiton lobby tried the divide and conquer tactic. Divide the traditional sportsman aka "Fudds" against everyone else with "we only want those evil black rifles." Some hunters/skeet shooters might buy in like Jim Zumbo or Ed Shultz. Problem is, this is the guns they own. This will not only fire up the base, It will take a lot of independents with them.

Is it real? The address is real. The first red flag is the first sentence "it appears" most official docs I got said "our records indicate" but then, I have never dealt with NYC. The city ordnance cited reads:
b. No person may possess an ammunition feeding device which is
designed for use in a rifle or shotgun and which is capable of holding
more than five rounds of rifle or shotgun ammunition, unless such person
is exempt from subdivision a of section 10-303.1 pursuant to section
10-305, provided that a dealer in rifles and shotguns may possess such
ammunition feeding devices for the purpose of disposition authorized
pursuant to subdivision a of this section.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-306

So either the letter was sent by an idiot or asshole at NYPD who can't read the ordinance or it's bullshit. OR, no one makes five round magazines for these, that seems to be the case with the AR-7, but I doubt anyone in that department has any level of expertize to know what magazines are available. I doubt that to be the case, since there is a fairly big market for five round rifle magazines in Canada. CZ makes an AK looking rifle specifically for the Canadian commercial market and not sold in the US.
Is it real? I put it at "maybe". Is the Blaze shady? Yeah, but I think all partisan rags are shady.

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Response to PeteSelman (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 03:25 PM

16. post script

another one surfaced. This one seems more legit. I noticed the law does not specify detachable box magazines. Sorry I missed that. With that correction in mind, the rifles listed on the latest letter would indeed be banned.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/robert-farago/another-nypd-gun-confiscation-letter-emerges/

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