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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:27 PM Jan 2014

Smith & Wesson to Halt California Sale of Some Handguns

By Michael B. Marois - Jan 23, 2014

Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. (SWHC) said it will stop selling new versions of semiautomatic pistols in California because of a law requiring the weapons to stamp identifying information onto bullet casings when the guns are fired.

The law, signed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007, requires that new or updated semiautomatic handgun models be equipped to imprint the make, model and serial number of the gun on each cartridge case, using a technique known as microstamping.

California’s firearms laws are among the most restrictive in the U.S. The state passed the nation’s first assault-weapon ban in 1989. Microstamping, intended to aid police in solving crimes, is opposed by gun-rights advocates who say the additional cost penalizes lawful gun owners.

In a statement, Smith & Wesson, based in Springfield, Massachusetts, said the technology is “unreliable, serves no safety purpose, is cost prohibitive and, most importantly, is not proven to aid in preventing or solving crimes.”

The provision was supposed to take effect in 2010. It was delayed until the state attorney general’s office in May determined that microstamping technology was available manufacturers unrestricted by patents, a condition of the bill when it was enacted. A gun-rights group, the Calguns Foundation, paid to extend the existing patent in an attempt to forestall the law.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-23/smith-wesson-to-halt-california-sale-of-some-handguns.html

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Smith & Wesson to Halt California Sale of Some Handguns (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2014 OP
Followed Rugers lead... ileus Jan 2014 #1
Yay! shenmue Jan 2014 #2
Are their any other examples of security theater that meet with your approval? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #13
I guess that's one way to stop the sale of new semi-automatic firearms in a state. ... spin Jan 2014 #3
The truly horrid thing clffrdjk Jan 2014 #4
The criminals will be armed with the latest semi-automatic firearms ... spin Jan 2014 #6
So criminals won't comply clffrdjk Jan 2014 #8
It seems obvious that the elected officials in California ... spin Jan 2014 #9
Without a corresponding ban on these... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #11
Gun control advocates love feel good laws. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #14
They forget what Mark Twain said: "Fine words butter no parsnips" n/t friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #17
Omfg. The world will end. What would Dirty Harry do? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #5
Dirty Harry would probably continue to use his .44 magnum S&W revolver. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #7
Aww, you wrecked a perfectly good rant with facts... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #10
The history of the S&W Model 29 .44 magnum shows the influence of movies on our ... spin Jan 2014 #16
Harry Callahan: [slowly drawing his .44 Magnum] Smith and Wesson... and me. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #18
-1 for not using "NRA talking point" friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #19
Being a cop, Harry could still buy any gun he wanted gejohnston Jan 2014 #12
Stop bringing up inconvenient truths, you meanyheads! friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #15

spin

(17,493 posts)
3. I guess that's one way to stop the sale of new semi-automatic firearms in a state. ...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:38 PM
Jan 2014

Of course, the courts could overturn the law.

 

clffrdjk

(905 posts)
4. The truly horrid thing
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jan 2014

Is that this law only applies to joe citizen, the police are exempt. Could somebody give me a logical reason why that should be.

spin

(17,493 posts)
6. The criminals will be armed with the latest semi-automatic firearms ...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:39 PM
Jan 2014

smuggled in from other states. Often there is an arms race between the police and the bad guys. At one time police officers carried revolvers and found themselves out gunned by the criminal element who were using semi-automatic pistol with high capacity magazines.

It would be unfair to expect the police to use outdated technology to fight crime.

 

clffrdjk

(905 posts)
8. So criminals won't comply
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:54 PM
Jan 2014

And because of this police don't have to eh. What was the purpose of this law again? Because so far all I see it doing is punishing law abiding citizens.

spin

(17,493 posts)
9. It seems obvious that the elected officials in California ...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jan 2014

are not fond of semi-automatic firearms and feel they should do their best to curtail the civilian ownership of these weapons.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
11. Without a corresponding ban on these...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:32 PM
Jan 2014



...this is security theater in action. So, yes, this is purely an attempt to restrict
civilian ownership of semi-automatic firearms.

spin

(17,493 posts)
16. The history of the S&W Model 29 .44 magnum shows the influence of movies on our ...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jan 2014

culture.

Dirty Harry's Model 29: America's Shooting Star

by Rick Hacker
July 23, 2013


Out of production and somewhat obscure, the Smith & Wesson Model 29 was once well known only to serious big-bore handgunners. Then in 1971, it became one of the most famous and desirable handguns of all time. Do you know why? Well, do ya?

***snip***

Such was not the case with “Dirty Harry” in 1971, starring Clint Eastwood, for the Smith & Wesson Model 29 that he packed in a Bucheimer-Clark shoulder holster and that was interwoven into his movie character, Inspector Harry Callahan. Who can forget those taunting, haunting words uttered by Eastwood as he squinted down that 6½-inch barrel aimed at actor Albert “Poppy” Popwell:

“I know what you’re thinking. ‘Did he fire six shots or only five?’ Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ Well, do ya, punk?”

What erupted immediately after that wasn’t the roar of a .44 Mag., but a frenzied public clamoring for an S&W Model 29—which, at that time, really was the most powerful commercially made handgun in the world. The sudden nationwide desire to own a .44 Mag. took S&W by surprise, as prior to the release of “Dirty Harry,” demand for the bulky, hard-recoiling handgun had fallen so low that the Model 29—though still cataloged—was out of production. Then, overnight the Model 29 was on everybody’s “most wanted” list. As a result, Model 29s were selling for as much as three times their suggested retail price of $194—when they could be found.
http://www.americanrifleman.org/mobile/article.php?id=23201
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
18. Harry Callahan: [slowly drawing his .44 Magnum] Smith and Wesson... and me.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jan 2014

You just went ahead and made my day.

Sudden Impact 1983. Smith and Wesson .44 Magnum.

Thanks for playing Gunner Logic Fail.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
19. -1 for not using "NRA talking point"
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jan 2014

Aren't you lot required to reflexively use it at least once in a thread, like 'gruss Gott'
or 'Inshallah'?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
12. Being a cop, Harry could still buy any gun he wanted
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:32 PM
Jan 2014

since most of these have a law enforcement exemption. As others pointed out, he carried a revolver.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
15. Stop bringing up inconvenient truths, you meanyheads!
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jan 2014

We're getting close to the thread being LaPierred* as it is.

*Refers to my variant on Godwin's Law:

"As a DU discussion of guns goes on, the probability that a statement that the
NRA has something to do with it will appear approaches 1, even if they have nothing to do with it."

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