Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumOne mom takes aim at gun violence
Better than 82 people shot in one city in 84 hours. Better than a father losing two of his children, a year apart, to gun violence. Better than a shooting per week on school grounds across the country since the Sandy Hook Elementary School murders in December 2012.
We have to do better.
"The gun lobby has done a very good job over the past three decades making a vocal minority fear their guns will be taken away," says Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action For Gun Sense in America.
"We fear our children will be taken away."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/ct-fight-gun-violence-balancing-20140710,0,1298177.column
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Monsanto mom who is a PR executive for the billionaire Bloomberg's group pushing some PR. There are already existing federal laws in place if they were just fully enforced.
As a host of the other gun group that strictly enforces their SOP to the point of censorship, it would be nice of you to follow the SOP here. I am sure you are again going to ignore this polite request and run away and hide.
ileus
(15,396 posts)In stead she blabs about the myth of gun companies selling fear. Someone needs to pull the plank from their eye...
hack89
(39,171 posts)and her solution is to make more illegal? I think I see her problem.
How about a crack down on gangs. Lets strengthen the penalties for illegal gun use and start enforcing them.
jeepnstein
(2,631 posts)Follow the money.
Anyone who was really concerned about gun violence in Chicago would be taking steps to avoid the gangs and drug lifestyles that are at the heart of the violence. Since buying and selling illegal street drugs is an industry with no access to the court system, business disputes are handled in a more direct fashion. No different than when Capone was selling bootleg booze during Prohibition. But that doesn't suit the current narrative that seeks to blame lawful citizens going about their daily lives for the reckless actions of a very small segment of society that observes no laws.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And Sharon Watts happens to be a mom, which doesn't require a heart, or a soul, or much of a brain.
I'm thinking after her work with Monsanto and other big players, she's not hurting for cash.
Being a mom doesn't grant any special status to a woman unless there's some magnificent parenting going on.
The same is true for dads.
What worked for MADD, they'll admit, might work for gun control, except that MADD targeted the USER, not the vehicle.
Exploiting motherhood is, IMO, just despicable.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Your insults and smears should stop that mean woman from taking your guns away.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)If not for Bloomberg's money, she wouldn't even be on the radar.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And how they targeted the driver, not the car?
I've said nothing about her that's a smear or an insult that she didn't earn.
Working for Monsanto, in her capacity, was a choice.
Not very progressive, she earned it and she needs to own it.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)Or are insults towards other posters all you have to contribute?
IronGate
(2,186 posts)flamin lib
(14,559 posts)If someone makes a post that is thought provoking and starts a discussion they have met the SOP whether they comment on the OP or not.
Get the fuck over it.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Thank you for making the point even better and for agreeing with Duck Hunter et al.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)"start" does not mean continue or add to. It means START, as in BEGIN. Don't like that change the SOP to require participation in the discussion.
I repeat, the charge of SOP violation is bullshit. Get the fuck over it.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)SM is in violation of the SOP on every thread he/she/it starts but does not discuss in this group. Any subsequent post is not discussing the OP in which he/she/it started, they are only insults to other DUers.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)And if you feel insulted by something so benign that sorta' lumps you into the delicate flower group.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)for your information that insult has been superseded by several others now.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)I'm rubber you're glue, it bounces off me and sticks to you. Nana Nana booboo.
This whole thread has been nothing but whining and crying.
You've got a gun, show the maturity it takes to have that right.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I see you have nothing to contribute. Have an awesome day.
you just proved his point.
Good job.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)but it would be appropriate if the OP would participate in their own thread instead of posting and running away as this poster frequently does.
And, just for the record, his threads are hardly thought provoking.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)even if the OP doesn't choose to take part. Shit, SecMo knows what he thinks. What he wants to know is what you guys think.
I make OPs here, in GD, C&B, photography and occasionally other places in DU without comment. No body bitches at me.
You guys are such delicate flowers . . .
IronGate
(2,186 posts)Just couldn't resist could you?
We're done.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)My Gun's Humping a Delicate Flower, when she reaches for her Revulva, saying: "You're nothing but an Ammosexual in need of an Extension."
sarisataka
(18,836 posts)Better trademark that before it gets to GD
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)That ought to slow down the patent thieves.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)apply in your case.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)OP's here should have some comment, or at least some response to the responses. SecMo has an awful habit of doing this, both here and in Religion. He drives by, posts, and disappears. Many of his OP's are good and most are good fuel for debate, yet he never engages in the debate, which is sad. This is why so many dismiss him out of hand.
Regardless of one's position on something, one only gains respect through participation in the conversation, not by pasting quotes from the web.
Since saying that exact sentence "This whole thing about not meeting SOP is bullshit" in the other forum would be quite enough to cause one to be blocked, I don't think its bullshit at all.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)that is not part of the SOP and words have meaning, you do not get to change the SOP.
Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.
: to talk about (something) with another person or group
: to give information, ideas, opinions, etc., about (something) in writing or speech
Since SM in hundreds of posts has failed to discuss on the topic he does a Google cut and paste on he is in fact violating the SOP. It is more like spam to bait people in this group to get a hide and he, she or it is failing miserably.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)I've posted here with no further comment and nobody objected. I've done the same in numerous other forums/groups and nobody complained, only here does anyone bitch.
Why is that? Why is this group so obsessed with one DUer?
SecMo posts and there is a discussion. Seems to meet SOP to me. He posts, you guys post responses, ergo discussion.
Still I wonder what is the facination? My feelings are hurt because I've done exactly what SecMo does and nobody cries over it. Is there no love for me?
I think perhaps you need the SOP thing so you don't have to deal with those posts.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)and at least you have entered a discussion in every one I checked even if you did not in the original post. You start posting in excess of 500 post like SM and stop discussing within those posts you might get treated the same way and then you can be happy. Just try a little harder.
Secular has hundreds of posts in this group without comment or discussion in the post with other members.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=22&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=23&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=24&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=25&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=26&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=27&sort=author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172&page=28&sort=author
SM is a host and strictly enforces his SOP in the group he hosts to prevent anyone that they do not like over there. I have nothing against SM except the outright hypocrisy he is doing by posting here and not adhering to the SOP while strictly enforcing his SOP. I give our host here credit for allowing all viewpoints and basically not blocking anyone unlike that other group. A host should be held up to a very high standard and the polite thing to do is follow the group SOP he, she or it is posting in..
This group has two blocks and one has decided to leave DU on his own.
1 Hoyt
2 rdharma
now for the group SM hosts
1 hack89
2 Eleanors38
3 Crepuscular
4 Bay Boy
5 ManiacJoe
6 bossy22
7 Straw Man
8 oneshooter
9 Duckhunter935
10 friendly_iconoclast
11 rrneck
12 customerserviceguy
13 ProgressiveProfessor
14 sarisataka
15 appal_jack
16 Travis_0004
17 geckosfeet
18 Hangingon
19 NYC_SKP
20 Jenoch
21 spin
22 shedevil69taz
23 SoutherDem
24 Lurks Often
25 ileus
26 Recursion
27 SQUEE
28 MO_Moderate
29 S_B_Jackson
30 HALO141
31 Jgarrick
32 Valakut
33 arst1
34 Nuclear Unicorn
35 TupperHappy
36 pipoman
37 yeoman6987
38 Laelth
39 IronGate
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)Have been tombstoned?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)sounds like anti-gun people are afraid of a discussion and have to run and hide
IronGate
(2,186 posts)Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)"More prone" being the operative phrase. Though I'm not too sure about the definition of the word "gunner". If it means gun owner, then NO, they are not prone to being asshole any more than anyone else. 2A absolutists, then I'd say YES, definitely prone, as all absolutists tend to be assholes.