Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumBuy latte, pack gun: Starbucks hit with boycott -- and 'buycott' (open carry fail)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/02/starbucks-guns-boycott.htmlThose who prefer to drink their lattes packing protection on their hip turned out at Starbucks across the country on the first day of a "buycott" organized by gun owners -- countering the Starbucks boycott called this week by the National Gun Victims Action Council.
The issue of Starbucks allowing gun owners to openly carry their weapons in states that have "open carry" laws has been simmering for years. The new boycott, which launched Tuesday, aims at persuading Starbucks to join a growing list of retail chains, including Peet's Coffee, California Pizza Kitchen and IKEA, which prohibit guns even when they're otherwise legal.
"Starbucks allowing guns to be carried in thousands of their stores significantly increases everyone's risk of being a victim of gun violence," Elliot Fineman, head of the Chicago-based council, said in a press release announcing the boycott.
Most of the visible action Tuesday seemed to be on the buycott side of things, though, as gun groups across the country urged their members to show up at Starbucks -- not necessarily with their weapons -- and spend.
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If I saw some fatass with his extender device at a Starbucks - I would leave and call the manager.
"I ain't going back"
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burf
(1,164 posts)Starbucks version St Valentines Day massacre? You couldn't name the areas in which people couldn't get in because of the blood on the floor or the bodies stacked up like cordwood, could ya'? I haven't seen the numbers, gotta link?
My guess is the biggest inconvenience was the use of the two dollar bills by the Starbucks supporters.
jpak
(41,758 posts)I know - to act like an asshole and intimidate everyone around you.
and enjoy it
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one-eyed fat man
(3,201 posts)But Eleanor got it pegged.
jpak
(41,758 posts)I cannot stand them
nope
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)And your obvious bigotry is obvious.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Department of Redundancy Department?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)I cannot stand them
nope
burf
(1,164 posts)casualty numbers, or perhaps there weren't any? No baristas shot over a double shot?
The point, as you should know from your extensive research on the matter, was to show support for Starbucks and their decision in favor of law abiding citizens being armed in accordance with existing laws.
jpak
(41,758 posts)yup
DonP
(6,185 posts)But your Starbuck's might have been different because I agree; "Nobody wants to go to a coffee shop where jerks hang out"
you got nothin'.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)"Nobody wants to go to a coffee shop where jerks hang out."
FIFY.
DonP
(6,185 posts)I wondered when somebody else would notice the obvious. It's a rare day when we "agree" with jpak.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)yup
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)I know - to act like an asshole and intimidate everyone around you.
and enjoy it.
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ileus
(15,396 posts)LAGC
(5,330 posts)Tasted excellent.
Go Starbucks!
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)These tactics don't seem to be working for you....
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)I ordered a salted caramel hot chocolate and a regular coffee for a coworker.
The girl behind the counter said she had just heard about it the night before, but she had several pro-second-amendment people come in that day.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)But I drank it anyway.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...I don't go often maybe once a month.
montanto
(2,966 posts)Course I live in L.A., so i could only take "pack" pictures of my guns on my cell phone.
BTW I would never buy starbucks otherwise. Coffee sucks, and too many other local options.
Simo 1939_1940
(768 posts)city-wide "Starbucks run" at the Sbucks closest to the pad. And we are not extreme outliers -- you can bank on that.
There is absolutely no doubt that this silly-ass boycott backfired in a huge way.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)DWC
(911 posts)armed, overweight homosexuals is proof of the extreme, right wing bigot you seem to really be.
Semper Fi,
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Also, go to gun sites and read all the right wing hoopla applauding the Starbuck show promoting more guns in public.
DonP
(6,185 posts)You really seem to have an undue familiarity with the TBaggers ass that no gun owners seem to share.
All you do is see a corner of a chair and you know instinctively that its a TBaggers ass. Or are you assuming that only TBaggers would carry? Couldn't be, because you already know that some DU members carry legally.
So fess up. How did you come by all this knowledge? Experience, extensive study, natural talent and affinity?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I saying that the majority of those who carry in public are right wingers. That is a fact.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Good for you and your cheap ass, ignorant stereotyping.
Everyone that carries open or concealed is a right winger and therefore a TBagger and you can spot them by looking at their ass in a picture. Right, got it.
You never fail to live down to our expectations by consistently imitating the same ignorant behavior you pretend to decry.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)and why can't he deny it?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Response to DonP (Reply #27)
Hoyt This message was self-deleted by its author.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)Blonde roast, black. Not bad.
The patrons seemed like, well, normal people.
Nobody died.
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AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Did you perhaps mean 'success' of the buycott?
Or were you referring to the failure of the boycott?
rbixby
(1,140 posts)Its not okay for a private business to say "Please don't bring your guns into our establishment"?
Seems a little ridiculous to insist that everyone accept your feeling the need to be heavily armed everywhere. Its not a whole lot different than churches insisting that they have a right to project themselves into every woman's body.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)and it is OK for businesses to say you can't.
The other side is pissed off because Starbucks said "sure if you can." That started a boycott by the antis and a buycott by our side.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)even though the anti-gun lobby pressured them to ban all lawful carry, even concealed carry. Starbucks demurred, so a few anti-gun activists launched a boycott. Gun owners responded by making it a point to patronize Starbucks on the same day, and it went well.
Tempest in a coffeecup...
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)
I side with liberty when no one else is harmed.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Sounds more like a complete jpak fail to me..
Callisto32
(2,997 posts)Callisto32
(2,997 posts)Looks like an open carry success to me...
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Nationwide Starbucks "reverse boycott", or BUYcott, brings in many generous customers
"On February 14, 2012 gun rights advocates across the country provided an economic stimulus to their local Starbucks stores. The effort came together in response to the January 23 announcement that of a Valentine's Day boycott scheduled by an anti-self-defense group calling itself the "National Gun Victim's Action Council." The group is demanding that Starbucks, which takes a neutral position on concealed carry, change its corporate policy and prohibit guns in the stores.
Once learning of the boycott, gun owners sprang into quick action, organizing a "reverse boycott" and taking a page from the NGVAC by coordinating through Facebook. Support for the "reverse boycott" was so successful that, before Valentine's Day arrived, the NGVAC was reportedly forced to remove the list of boycott participants from public view on its Facebook event page after the tiny number was dwarfed by more than 24,500 Facebook users committing to participate in the "reverse boycott." (What they cannot hide, however, is the tiny number of followers on this supposedly national anti-gun groups' Facebook page - just 258. By comparison, Buckeye Firearms Association has over 11,700.)
Many participants agreed to pay and/or tip with $2 bills to signify support for the Second Amendment. And while it is impossible to measure the exact financial boost the reverse boycott had on Starbucks' bottom line, the anecdotal evidence posted at the Facebook event page for the 'BUYcott' suggests it was substantial. The comments also suggest that most store managers weren't aware of the NGVAC boycott, but they were definitely aware of the increased business thanks to gun owners!"
Where's your "fail"?
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)and thank him/her for upholding Constitutional Rights.
"I'll be back, again and again"
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