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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:53 AM Mar 2015

It's only fair to let you guys have a go at this.

Why do people compare guns to penises? It isn't a simple question and there isn't a simple answer but I'll give it a shot (yeah, that was a pun). Before I wander off into this flamebait fraught topic let me say clearly that I do not believe that ALL gun owners are compensating for anything. There are no absolutes when discussing entire classes of people. That said there are some pretty good examples of overcompensation that even the most ardent gun rights supporter has seen and recognized.

Start with the biological imperative. Females of most species seek a mate that exhibits the epitome of virility and strength. These traits are essential to the preservation of the species as they represent the strongest gene pool. Physical strength also provides protection from predation while she is encumbered with offspring. So, okay, strong and powerful is good. This is also not an absolute; in one species of cuttlefish the small weak male can disguise itself as an immature female and is ignored by the large dominant male while it invades his territory and is rewarded by the female with the opportunity to mate. Seems that intelligence and cunning can also be attractive traits.

Climbing up the evolutionary ladder to humanity some of the biology remains. In Victorian times and up to the 1950s when women were relegated to a secondary roll in society a powerful and successful husband was the key to a happy and safe home life. This is essentially the premise for vampire literature; a handsome wealthy man that is invincible, lives forever and can bestow the same on a mate is the ideal provider for a Victorian woman. Needless to say none of this is still biologically necessary as women have largely come into their own for success in business, politics and equality thanks to the Feminist Movement. I say largely because there is still that 78 cents on the dollar thing and rape culture but that's another flamebait quagmire.

A gun is a symbol of power. Power is symbol of virility ergo a gun is a symbol of sexuality. There are a lot of other symbols as well, the sports car or taking up dangerous hobbies so emblematic of mid life crisis but we're talking about guns here. I'm sure these guys would rather have a Corvette but an AR15 is only about $700 compared to $40k for the car.

The literature of psychology is full of power symbols relating to sexuality. Freud and Jung explored the relationship of weapons to sexuality as evidenced in dreams. Pick up any introduction to Psychology text. But remember what Groucho Marks said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

How are guns marketed to men?

As symbols of power:


As symbols of strength and protection.


As things that scantily clad attractive women enjoy fondling.


As things that women use to attract men, presumably powerful men.


And of course this most patent of all pandering to the possibly penis challenged.
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Now, if any of this offends a gungeon dweller let me repeat; I do not believe that all gun owners have penis deficiencies. I mean what the heck, I own a bunch of guns but I'm not this guy:

But I do owe Kory a note of thanks for singlehandedly defeating Constitutional Carry in Texas.

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It's only fair to let you guys have a go at this. (Original Post) flamin lib Mar 2015 OP
Knuckle draggers NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #1
I seem to recall -- Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #18
Care to elaborate? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #43
Guns are not penises, more like tools, but the best analogy is a gun is like a tampon. Sarcastica Mar 2015 #2
I think the penis insults are just that, insults. upaloopa Mar 2015 #3
Good post. Right on the money. Starboard Tack Mar 2015 #4
I hope there's no correlation. beemer27 Mar 2015 #5
Didn't read the OP, eh? flamin lib Mar 2015 #6
So... which one is the cuttlefish? Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #54
Ever notice who really, really obsesses about the whole "gun = penis" thing DonP Mar 2015 #7
"Why do people compare guns to penises?" beevul Mar 2015 #8
Firearms are a life saving device, you can't use one for a breeding device. ileus Mar 2015 #9
In one word sarisataka Mar 2015 #10
A very good point, on Immaturity. beevul Mar 2015 #11
... and there's also the point, no one will see his graffiti in the "other" group DonP Mar 2015 #12
So he comes here, a place he swore he would never post in again. oneshooter Mar 2015 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #15
You mean your post where you; "regretted asking him to tone it down"? DonP Mar 2015 #17
I guess the standards for behavior are a little higher here DonP Mar 2015 #22
his latest "Thanks. I think that skill comes from practice, as some are on their 5th or 6th sock" Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #25
Well, he would know more about zombies and sock puppets than most folks I guess DonP Mar 2015 #28
Funny post Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #30
No, funny is the longest thread ever in "Bansalot" is whining about one stinking hide ... DonP Mar 2015 #37
Oh yes, I see your point Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #40
I am famous Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #44
Speaking of socks and retreads... beevul Mar 2015 #57
I'm pretty sure Shares/Loudly/? is back again with a new name DonP Mar 2015 #58
another winning comment from the other group Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #36
From the only person ever to be totally banned from RKBA DonP Mar 2015 #39
Must be a lonely Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #41
Whoa! Host got spanked DonP Mar 2015 #48
It won't make a difference. blueridge3210 Mar 2015 #49
I Saw that Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #53
He really doesn't do that a lot that I've seen DonP Mar 2015 #55
Yes, surprised me Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #60
someone is not happy and doubling down Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #61
Went to a jury, 1-6 to keep it. That is why I no longer bother to alert. oneshooter Mar 2015 #62
Yes, I agree with that as I very rarely alert Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #63
I saw the group host said he made a mistake Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #19
I want a salad. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #50
Let me talk to my wife and daughter - they both own AR-15s. hack89 Mar 2015 #14
I've got an idea discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2015 #16
People who talk about 'shiny metal penises' and the teeny weeny society and petronius Mar 2015 #20
Advertizing works. The fact that AR style rifles and semi auto pistols are the most popular flamin lib Mar 2015 #21
Advertising works. But that's not what these penis insults are about. You're conflating petronius Mar 2015 #23
Really? The almost nude women fondling guns isn't sexist? flamin lib Mar 2015 #24
The first line of your OP is "Why do people compare guns to penises?" petronius Mar 2015 #31
Sorry, you don't get to change the topic in your own sub-thread. nt flamin lib Mar 2015 #32
Huh? I was trying to bring you *back* to the topic of the sub-thread... petronius Mar 2015 #33
Sorry, I won't play your game. flamin lib Mar 2015 #38
Running away Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #42
Yeah, I'm not sure how attempting to discuss the argument presented in the OP petronius Mar 2015 #45
I have found out Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #46
If only Bloomberg and his gun control stooges were half as effective as those gun ads DonP Mar 2015 #26
I think they save and drool over those ads Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #29
very typical of some of the posters from that other group Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #27
It's a cheap shot, cheap shit way of denigrating ... MicaelS Mar 2015 #34
you can tell the level of discussion Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #35
Like anywhere else around here, it's amazing what passes as progressive if said ileus Mar 2015 #47
You're inferring there is a gulf between reality and advertising by selecting which pics to post. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #51
on the SAR K2 picture guillaumeb Mar 2015 #52
Is there any actual data to back up either viewpoint? Android3.14 Mar 2015 #56
I will give you credit for at least trying to answer that. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #59

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
18. I seem to recall --
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:40 PM
Mar 2015
ALL African Americans need to arm themselves with as many guns and bullets as they can get.

If they cant afford it the US Government should provide for them.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
43. Care to elaborate?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:47 PM
Mar 2015

If you're going to fling a whole two-word insult, you could at least define your target audience.

 

Sarcastica

(95 posts)
2. Guns are not penises, more like tools, but the best analogy is a gun is like a tampon.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:04 PM
Mar 2015

Has a limited, and specific use, but although it is not an item to be ashamed of, or immature about, it is also nothing that is particularly glamorous.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. I think the penis insults are just that, insults.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:04 PM
Mar 2015

It is all a part of the DU food fights on the topic of guns.

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
4. Good post. Right on the money.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:19 PM
Mar 2015

There are those who glorify guns, those who think guns are sexy and there are those who recognize them for what they really are, tools that can be devastating for those who own them or come in contact with them.

beemer27

(460 posts)
5. I hope there's no correlation.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:25 PM
Mar 2015

The theory of gun size substituting for penis size is hopefully not true. The last firearm I purchased has a 3 inch barrel. Why do the control crowd obsess with sexual comparisons? There must be something going on with them that we don't know about.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
6. Didn't read the OP, eh?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:34 PM
Mar 2015

It's all there. Not every gun owner is compensating but look at the Psych literature and the way gun makers market their product and it's obvious that SOMEBODY is compensating for something.

Gun marketing is about power, power can be a substitute for sexual virility. If that's not you, okay, but see it for what it is.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
7. Ever notice who really, really obsesses about the whole "gun = penis" thing
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:35 PM
Mar 2015

They collect the pictures like baseball card and save them on their hard drive, like the OP and the family album our sole banned DU member has filled his hard drive that he posts at any vague opportunity.

They seem to start to get all excited online and breathe heavy when they come up with an excuse to Google "Guns and Girls" pix or "Redneck with a Rifle".

Anybody ever see a pro 2nd poster doing this? Anywhere?

If we did, we'd probably all stop buying 1 and 3/4 inch Snubbies and all move up to 1911 Long Slides, S&W 686's or Buntline Specials. Harder to conceal, but still cheaper than therapy sessions every week to find out why some people are penis obsessed.

I'm guessing there's far more projection than insight involved on this for the gun control "fans".

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
8. "Why do people compare guns to penises?"
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

Here on DU?

Because they can do so without fear of consequence, due to it being an accepted form of sexism and bigotry.

In kind of in the same way...and by the same people...that openly support bloombergs astroturf groups, in spite of his racist remarks about minorities and his groups inclusion of one of the terrorist boston bombers as a "victim of gun violence".

Its been going on for years, decades even, but it is in large part, responsible for the numerous victories the anti-gun crowd has won.

I say "Onward, anti-gun soldier".

sarisataka

(18,654 posts)
10. In one word
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:05 PM
Mar 2015

immaturity.

It titillates a receptive audience to conflate guns and sex as a compensating thing- if a person views guns negatively, or as a proof of manhood- if the view is positive. In both cases the relationship between gun ownership and any sexual trait is approximately equal to zero.

As for why are scantily clad women used in firearms ads- simple, sex sells. It is an old and well known/used maxim.

A body wash is only going to lead to orgasm if the cleaning is focused

Will you become a supermodel/have a relationship with one if you are a vegetarian

Or perhaps meat will... nevermind, it's pretty self explanatory

Although there is a trend beginning to equalize exploitation

Some are blatantly honest

But it is not new

If only they knew how much farther it would go


And yes, if anybody should get on a gun control payroll it is Kory...

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
11. A very good point, on Immaturity.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:29 PM
Mar 2015

Temper tantrums and name calling are typical in children that don't get their way, or are told "No".

Most but apparently not all children grow out of it, as we see almost daily.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
12. ... and there's also the point, no one will see his graffiti in the "other" group
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:54 PM
Mar 2015

So, another of their more reliable posters winds up making his graffiti marks on a wall that no one sees and comes here with his chalk, instead of in the Safe Haven.

That brings Bansalot down to about what, 2 regular posters and a host?

With the host now begging the "taking my stuff and going home" one to "come back, all is forgiven".

This show is much better than the Novellas, but the costumes aren't nearly as good.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
13. So he comes here, a place he swore he would never post in again.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 03:53 PM
Mar 2015

And spreads his fecal matter around here, then runs away to his "safe haven" aka Castle BansaLot, and cries that he was again abused here.
Personally i would rather he stay safe in his haven, and bother us no more.

Response to DonP (Reply #12)

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
17. You mean your post where you; "regretted asking him to tone it down"?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

And was going to; "ask him to return with a PM", that post?

So now, pointing out the obvious is a smear?

That's hysterically funny coming from you and your posse with your track record of blatant rudeness.

Sounds like regret and asking him to return with no conditions and all his evil, hateful bile intact to me.

Well, to me and several other posters, who in PMs also thought it was pretty funny that you couldn't afford to lose even a single regular poster, no matter how vicious and bullying they became and no matter how much he ignored you and your attempts at guidance as the host.

But every host sets and is responsible for enforcing their own standards for their group. And you certainly have.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
22. I guess the standards for behavior are a little higher here
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:28 PM
Mar 2015

Hmmm, get caught playing games, lose your temper, and buh bye.

Glad people that can't seem to control themselves don't carry concealed weapons.

In other news, while the "activists" have been busy doing something or other, it looks like Kansas is going Constitutional and Campus Carry this week.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
25. his latest "Thanks. I think that skill comes from practice, as some are on their 5th or 6th sock"
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:52 PM
Mar 2015

So now he is accusing DU members here of having multiple accounts. This without any proof but I guess it is OK for that host to post the accusation in his group where he is quite sure it will not be challenged as they require a "safe haven" to limit speach unlike this group.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
37. No, funny is the longest thread ever in "Bansalot" is whining about one stinking hide ...
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:17 PM
Mar 2015

... for being rude.

More posters to hold his hand and reassure him he's needed than ever to support gun control.

And they'll be gone in a day or two.

Ha!

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
44. I am famous
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:57 PM
Mar 2015

well at least in that post that is just so smoking hot over in "bansalot" And of course we are all right wing trolls, no insult there, right?


Bjorn Against
That group is filled with right-wing trolls, don't let them get to you
There is one in particular that I have noticed loves to harrass the hosts of this group every chance he gets, he loves to lecture about politeness while being completely oblivious to the fact that his constant harassment is anything but polite. I have seen him jump on you multiple times over an alert he had against himself, and he constantly harrassed Secular Motion demanding he "discuss" with people who clearly just wanted to tear him down.

Why the admins allow people like this to harrass good standing members of this site like he does I will never understand, there are several people in that group who should have gotten the boot long ago.


Asking a person to answer a question is harassment now?
Simple fix, answer the fricking question
So is asking a host to follow the group SOP?
Simple fix, Follow the frickin SOP

Who knew, the humanity.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
57. Speaking of socks and retreads...
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:20 PM
Mar 2015

Funny how neither him or his colleagues ever chimed in about loudly/sharesunited.

One of the most, if not the single most, obvious retread to ever be seen on DU.


Evidence was provided and presented numerous times in numerous forums, and yet all we heard from the usual suspects is:

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
58. I'm pretty sure Shares/Loudly/? is back again with a new name
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:29 PM
Mar 2015

Don't want to say who quite yet.

But he's incapable of being subtle and controlling his ego to preserve the illusion.

So it's only a matter of time before he gives himself away.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
36. another winning comment from the other group
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:16 PM
Mar 2015

In the Gungeon, they'll find a reason to alert unless you are a gun fancier.
They are sensitive folks and protect their gun love.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628570#post20
All they have are insults to firearms owners and the host shows his approval by not moderating comments like those.
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
39. From the only person ever to be totally banned from RKBA
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:33 PM
Mar 2015

With Krispos even temper and our SoP, that takes some hard work.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
48. Whoa! Host got spanked
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:39 PM
Mar 2015

Check out the "whine list" in Bansalot about the hide in this thread.

With the longest thread in Bansalot history, about a hide, the host was just slapped on the wrist this AM by Skinner for misrepresenting why he got hidden.

"It's a Fair Cop", as Monty Python might say.

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
49. It won't make a difference.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:55 PM
Mar 2015

Certain people will continue to play silly word games to justify their hatred and intolerance towards "the other". Business as usual.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
61. someone is not happy and doubling down
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:42 PM
Mar 2015
25. I should have said "lying asshole, and the worst right wing gun troll in the gungeon".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628570#post25
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
63. Yes, I agree with that as I very rarely alert
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 08:33 PM
Mar 2015

And it seems pretty clear that that host has insulted me in an alert against me. He has never stated he has not written that alert even after being asked several times.


so far you have not answered and seem to be afraid to take credit or disavow it was you. So was it you? yes or no?

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling out the host (EM) of a safe haven group (GCRA) that this person (duckhunter) has long been blocked from (gun nuts not allowed), for something not even written by that host. Hosts aren't responsible for everything posted by other members. This arrogant gun nut needs to be reminded what website they are on, and they are not on ar15.com.

Intentionally rude, hurtful, inappropriate = hide.


Sure coincidence on the ar-15.com reference right?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=163898

So here is another simple question. Do you think it is right to post an insult to a DU member in an alert on a post?


* NOTE TO JURORS since I feel this will be alerted on.
The host in question could have easily stated it was not his alert, however he refuses to do so. By using the similarity of his posts and the reference to ar-15.com, I am about 95% sure the alert is from him and the insult in that alert is directed right at me.

F that host states it was not him I will apologize.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
19. I saw the group host said he made a mistake
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:01 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)

and should have left that over the top insult stay instead of moderating the comments of that group.

It is hard to have 30% of his posters get mad and go to his room with a sad.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
14. Let me talk to my wife and daughter - they both own AR-15s.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

It will be interesting to see how penises enter into their enjoyment of shooting.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
16. I've got an idea
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 05:39 PM
Mar 2015

How about anyone that just can't seem to restrain themselves from a generally untrue, somewhat offensive, outside the actual SoP of the group reference(s) just to fit in their own quip, which doesn't have nearly the same attention getting effect for those class clowns among us, how about those folks just start their OP title with *PENIS*?

This seems like a great way for ATTRACTING-ATTENTION-TO-YOURSELF. (r)George Carlin

Said class clowns can then add their two cents with or without the typical cartoon, reference, joke, link, etc. This may save some folks quite a bit of time searching for 'google: nasty gun penis cartoon' and such.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
20. People who talk about 'shiny metal penises' and the teeny weeny society and
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:05 PM
Mar 2015

so forth, do so to be insulting (and in a sexist way, to boot). You've built a complicated argument to rationalize and justify this childish behavior, but you're pinning the tail on the wrong donkey: the insults and euphemisms are not based on any sexual compensation from gun owners, or in any psycho-sexual critique of gun (or any other) marketing, but simply on a desire to fling insults...

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
21. Advertizing works. The fact that AR style rifles and semi auto pistols are the most popular
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

Firearms because advertising features them is self evident. Like it or not the gun industry has the potential buyer very well identified. They got your number.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
23. Advertising works. But that's not what these penis insults are about. You're conflating
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:29 PM
Mar 2015

two issues in an effort to rationalize sexist slurs...

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
24. Really? The almost nude women fondling guns isn't sexist?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:48 PM
Mar 2015

Guns are a symbol of power. Power is a symbol of virility. Ergo guns are a symbol of virility. Not the only symbol but the one suitable for this venue.

The fact that gun manufacturers capitalize on that meme so successfully is testimony that somebody out there is motivated by "guns make me powerful and therefore sexy". If it was all self defense without the semi nude sexy innuendo you might have a point.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
31. The first line of your OP is "Why do people compare guns to penises?"
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:04 PM
Mar 2015

What people, specifically, were you referring to there?

petronius

(26,602 posts)
45. Yeah, I'm not sure how attempting to discuss the argument presented in the OP
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:59 PM
Mar 2015

is a "game."

I thought my last post was a good question to bring the discussion back on track: the OP states that "people compare guns to penises" and it would be worthwhile to know specifically which people and which comparisons he was referring to. All the overt gun=penis references I have seen are from anti-gun types attempting a base and sexist insult, and have nothing to do with the behavior of gun owners or the marketing of guns.

There's a lot of tangential discussion here about sex in advertising, but it's a huge leap and a red herring to conflate that advertising with the gun/penis snark - two topics entirely, and the advertising does not explain, cause, represent, or justify the sexist 'teeny-peeny' snark...

(If the OP intended to limit the focus only to sex-centric advertising, that intent certainly wasn't clear. And I don't think sexualized advertising of guns is any more equivalent to 'comparing guns to penises' than sexualized Burger King advertising is making a burger=penis linkage.)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
46. I have found out
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:06 PM
Mar 2015

that when called out on posts or even when asked to answer a simple question, the "anti-gun types" tend to run away and disappear or maybe post some insults over in "bansalot"

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
26. If only Bloomberg and his gun control stooges were half as effective as those gun ads
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:54 PM
Mar 2015

But they're not, they are a total joke, but not quite as funny as Don Knott's in "The gang that can't shoot straight".

Mayors Against Illegal Guns MAIG; littered with criminals; including pedophiles, embezzlers and frauds. Let it quietly go away and hope no one notices that more than half their membership is either up the river, out of office or quitting because you lied to them about the organization.

So get out the checkbook and re-invent it as Everytown for Gun Safety, except there is no safety element included. Kick it off with a high profile bus tour to spread the word, using all those poor gun victims. Hire half wits to compile the list and they use criminals and terrorists shot by police, including the Boston Bomber, as victims of "Gun Violence".

Then. find an out of work PR flack, that spent the last 5 years at Monsanto trying to tell America that GMOs are good for your kids and hire her to start a fully bought and paid for "Grass Roots" movement. "Mom's Demand Action For Gun Sense in America" that can't get Kroger, Starbuck's or any other major company to ban guns. Hell, the CEO of Staples had them escorted off the property by security. They are just a frickin' juggernaut of effectiveness. I've dealt with a few at local town meetings on new gun ranges. No facts, no background, no speaking skills. That's a great investment for Bloomie.

Those hypocrites even show up for their "rallies" with armed guards, for Shannon only of course. Never mind the other handful of "moms" who show up. Gotta protect the Bloomberg investment, and everyone know what a threat those law abiding gun owners are, especially when they're laughing their ass off watching all 5 of the paid demonstrators with pre-printed signs.

$50 million bucks and gun control can't even get a newsletter out or hold a press event without screwing it up. Yeah, the NRA probably lays awake nights ... wondering how to leverage the next gun control screw up for another 100,000 members or so.

Oh those gun ads usually only show up in outdoor and gun related magazines. Funny that the gun control people know all about them and we never see them here in the Gungeon.

Do you keep those in the same scrapbook with your family album pictures you post here too?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
29. I think they save and drool over those ads
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:58 PM
Mar 2015

they must have whole collections so they can post them.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
34. It's a cheap shot, cheap shit way of denigrating ...
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:41 PM
Mar 2015

An entire class of people. We use sex, and sexually loaded terms (yes I meant to use that phrase) to denigrate others. It happens right across the political spectrum.

And sex has been used to sell as long as advertising has existed.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
35. you can tell the level of discussion
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:58 PM
Mar 2015

in the other group, which shows to be slightly more childish than here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628563


superiority and ego stroking they can not possibly obtain any other way?
Embrace the hot metal, gun lovers!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628563#post1

ileus

(15,396 posts)
47. Like anywhere else around here, it's amazing what passes as progressive if said
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:55 AM
Mar 2015

against the proper group. The folks that spew this are just like our neighborhood freepers, if your argument doesn't hold water they have to sling mud.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
51. You're inferring there is a gulf between reality and advertising by selecting which pics to post.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

Not all pro-RKBA'ers are unattractive. Maybe some are but I'm sure attractive, sexually confident men support the 2A. Perhaps attractive, sexually confident women do as well. Your post demonstrates confirmation bias more than an honest survey of the people who exercise their inherent rights to self-defense.

It's an odd tactic and one that bears an odious whiff of body-shaming and slut-shaming.

Even odder is the back-handed, probably unwitting, statement that anti-self defense advocates don't make the best breeding stock, aren't likely to protect their families and have resigned themselves and their loved ones to whatever fate malicious people would bestow upon them.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
52. on the SAR K2 picture
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:53 PM
Mar 2015

I prefer the Weaver stance myself. Unless the photo is showing the "hiding under a desk while shooting terrorists" stance.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
56. Is there any actual data to back up either viewpoint?
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:14 PM
Mar 2015

It shouldn't be to hard...er difficult...to confirm it as fact or derail it as myth. Someone must have looked into this.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
59. I will give you credit for at least trying to answer that.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:38 PM
Mar 2015

If the anti-gun crowd answers at all, it's usually something along the lines of "derp."

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