Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumJust saw this in the other group.
And they claim that we're the rude, obnoxious ones?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)3 Recommendations too, I think that is all of the regular posters.
Too bad they do not believe that Democrats own firearms and also want to control unwanted firearms deaths and injuries. We should be able to pass legislation that would actually work but all they want is more feel good laws.
They have the required safe haven and are in their bubble most of the time.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Firearms owners that actually want laws and legislation that works. Democrats who believe in the individual right to keep and bear arms?
I am so glad you are allowed to come and post over here. It would be nice if you could tone down some of the attacks on us in the group you host. By not doing so you must approve of the name calling and the ones that are calling us racist. Very sad in my opinion.
And for the jury that will see this I expect, Mr. Electric Monk is the host of the other gun group that is allowed to post over her but has blocked all of us. He even advocated blocking prior to even posting in his group. He allows attacks on us DU members over in that group and will not moderate them. He comes over here and thinks he can run this group.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)I know I've told you that before, too. Stop lying, please.
kthxbye
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)You must, because you obviously condone them by your silence and lack of action to curb it.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)you made the charge, now prove it or apologize
All I asked as that as a host you can IM or post in the open people in your group tone down the insults, nothing about hiding, am I right? You can as a host do those simple things right?
The polite thing to do would be apologize.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)I only block users who violate the GCRA Group SOP.
Statement of Purpose
Discuss how to enact progressive gun control reform in a supportive environment. The group serves as a safe haven in which to mobilize supporters in support of measures reducing gun violence by changing laws, culture and practice at the municipal, state, and federal levels. While there is no single solution to the tragic epidemic of gun violence, members agree that more guns are not the solution to gun violence, and are expected to be supportive of the policies of progressive gun control reform organizations.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)That is correct right? I said and it is true as a host you can moderate users comments by IM or by open post calling on members to calm the tone of the comments.
So once again it seems your calling me a liar is not factually correct. The polite thing to do would apologize.
That SOP is not the basis of your blocks most of the time. The post fall within its scope but you just have the power and do not like the comment or the person making the comments.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Very childish behavior in my opinion. I think you sir are better than that. 😀
DonP
(6,185 posts)On one hand you have no problem advising your latest "Blog Flogging" fan to stop using all caps, but on the other hand calling DU gun owners racist is OK as far as your, obviously very limited, control goes.
"I only block users who violate the GCRA Group SOP."
So then why did you say you have no problem blocking people based on what they say elsewhere on DU? How can they violate your sacred SoP in another forum?
Ah well, you must be a complex and convoluted person to be such a successful and well recognized leader in the gun control movement.
Thankfully, you're running a safe haven that doesn't really matter that much anymore in the larger scheme of things here in the real world.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I forgot sbout EM talking to that poster about all caps. Funny he can do that but is silent on all of the hateful and insulting posts in that group. That silence is agreement in my opinion. He just posted another insult directed at me above. In my opinion, a host should be above insulting posters.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)why play games and let them pretend to care about GCRA? re: pre-emptive blocking
The rest of your trolling isn't worth a reply.
DonP
(6,185 posts)You can't "control posters", but then you can control posters; even when they aren't in your sacred group ... if you want to.
To oyu and your ilk everybody here is just a "gunthusiast/ammosexual/gun humper/gun stroker" etc., but you still post more here than in your own group?
(That echo chamber and the same 3 or 4 voices once or twice a week must get boring after a while, huh?) Just a lot of contradictions going on there.
And on top of it, with all that "activism" supporting you, you all still struggle to point to a gun control "win" after two years.
But cheer up, the violent crime rate including crime involving guns continues to fall, even with over 12 million concealed carry permits and more to come, probably because there so many fewer gun owners, right?
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Epic fail, maybe you should be blocked from posting there, don't you agree? SOP's must be followed 😀
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And they will handle it. I figured you would follow the stated SOP.
DonP
(6,185 posts)I noticed theres a big push in there on getting the mental health issue under control now.
Must be tough, since the gun control fans insisted after Sandy Hook that mental health were NRA talking points?
Or is disagreeing with the administration supposed to make us all "Bad Dems" for you and that's supposed to shame us?
Well, then again, maybe you do support the TPP and the renewal of the revised Patriot Act, version 2.0, complete with secret lists.
Again, why are you posting here when you wanted your own group? Don't get me wrong, we all enjoy the humor you occasionally inject
But it's kind of embarrassing, as a host of your own safe group, that your favorite group is still a bunch of "gun humpers/strokers/ammosexuals et. al.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)😀
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)And, seems to exceed the capabilities of some.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)give one reason for the RKBA for individual citizens. It does not limit that right to service in the Militia. You may have missed a recent Supreme Court ruling called "Heller v. District of Columbia" where this was decided. More reading comprehension problems?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)What regulated meant at the time and what punctuation means.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)The "people" in the 2ndA is the same as in the other amendments of the Bill of Rights. The 2ndA does not state "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"; if it did, you might be able to argue that the RKBA is limited to those defined in 10 USC 311 (of which I am one also), but the 2ndA makes no such limitation.
If someone can't find a right of the people to keep and bear arms in the text "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", then it's no wonder those same people have trouble finding a right to be free from "stop and frisk" or other warrantless searches in the 4thA, or a right to privacy in same.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)Doesn't that kind of prove their point?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)"Meant for your kind"?
Kinda says it all.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)"kind"?
Why thank you very much, Mr. Monk. My "kind" is overwhelmingly Democrat, and the large majority of us are gun owners. I'm in far better company than I would ever be at GCRA.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)sarisataka
(18,654 posts)It's the new liberal ideal
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Any penis comments in that thread yet?
ileus
(15,396 posts)Remember they know how you should be living your life. If you're taking the progressive route on the 2A you must be racist.
School kid insults is the best they can muster...the "facts" of their arguments are easily proven wrong. So they revert to 2nd grade antics to prove their point.
"Deny my greatness will you! You have a dinky winky!"
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)I am glad some of you are brave enough. do you were Decon suits?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Bigotry and hypocrisy are now revered progressive values. Get with the program, slacker!