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Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:16 PM

The mass killing the Controllers never told us about

Every time there is a tragedy the Controllers consider it their personal, moral duty to share it with us. We are to be made to feel the shame and regret that attends the loss of life from such wholly preventable tragedies as only they claim to feel it. To put forth any comment short of penitent self-flagellation over the human toll is to confess a heartlessness -- nay, soullessness -- that disqualifies the unrepentant from all future discourse.

Today, in the city of Denver, a trial moves into the penalty phase for a capital murder case in which the convicted killed 5 people. Five is more than the 4 killed in Chattanooga last week and better than half the number killed in Charleston (the perpetrator ran out of victims on the premises). Obviously we were informed of these tragedies immediately and are to be reminded for as long as they can remember. Yet, I cannot recall any mention of this crime from the Controller side that insists, in the name of human decency, we grant our full attention to every mass murder perpetrated in the US.

Why were we not informed?

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Reply The mass killing the Controllers never told us about (Original post)
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 OP
Lurks Often Jul 2015 #1
virginia mountainman Jul 2015 #2
beevul Jul 2015 #3
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #4
beevul Jul 2015 #5
pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #16
Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #6
SecularMotion Jul 2015 #7
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #9
beevul Jul 2015 #11
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #12
discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #13
sarisataka Jul 2015 #15
pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #18
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #20
Post removed Jul 2015 #8
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #10
sarisataka Jul 2015 #14
pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #17
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #19

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:35 PM

1. It wasn't committed with a gun, so it doesn't fit their agenda

 

I recognize the hypocrisy of the gun control side's view that only gun murders are important to them. Going by the posts here on DU none of them ever seem to care about the other roughly 30% of murders committed with something other then a gun and they never seem to care when it's people in the inner cities and other troubled urban areas dying.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:36 PM

2. Very correct.

To them, it is not about saving lives, it is all about "control"..

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:45 PM

3. As everyone knows...

 

People are less dead when stabbed to death, than when shot to death.

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Response to beevul (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:53 PM

4. In another article I read the killings were not quick. The victims were were repeatedly stabbed

one by one. Meaning each victim had to watch the others die slowly, painfully and in terror. I cannot imagine the horror they felt.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:01 PM

5. This belongs in this thread.

 

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Response to beevul (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:41 PM

16. Love this beevul - shared it on my FB page. NT

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:13 PM

6. Also one in Austin, Tx., 2014. Murder trial starts in Oct. Weapon: Honda car.

 

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:35 PM

7. Murder, Types of Weapons Used - Percent Distribution by Region, 2012

 



Your OP has nothing to do with firearms or gun control, outside of a poor attempt to smear Democrats who support gun control.

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:40 PM

9. "Your OP has nothing to do with firearms or gun control, outside of a poor attempt to smear"

If you don't like smears you should talk to post #8

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:45 PM

11. The Op had far more to say...

 

The Op had far more to say, than a comment-free cut and paste.

Is this the true nature of your objection?

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:50 PM

12. So, 69.3% of all homicides are by gun. What percentage of all homicides are by

semi-auto long gun?

Yet, those who support gun control much of their effort focuses on semi-auto long guns. Supposedly this need to ban the mislabeled "assault rifle" comes from a desire to reduce the number of mass killings. But here is a mass killing perpetrated without a semi-auto long gun.

If you want to discuss percentages can you explain the disproportionate amount of attention paid to semi-auto long guns?

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:06 PM

13. Finding a solution to violent crime is part of finding a solution to gun crime

Sorry if that doesn't fit your anti-gun culture war.




Well no, not really. It's just a figure of speech called

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:47 PM

15. The OP did not say anything about Democrats

she referred to "the Controllers"

You know they type- they are all about the guns(z), other forms of homicide are unimportant or even the victim's fault. All data which indicates guns are used in self-defense is "NRA propaganda"- even when it come from the FBI or CDC. There is no bad gun control proposal because it might save one life- even if it increases the overall number of victims of violent crime.

The leaders are easily recognized- they tend to be rich, have armed bodyguards, live in gated communities with armed guards and support opposing Democrats who are not loyal enough in backing gun control- replacing them with Republicans as a side effect.

They also assure us mass murder by means other than a gun never happens.


If I may respectfully offer a criticism- your claim this OP lacks relevance would carry more weight if you did something about off topic posts in the group you host.

Just this month for example:
nra gunnut tom selleck, aka water thief
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12629272
being an nra gunut is a complete non-sequiter to the issue of water theft
Research finds Pb is the hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, and even ADHD - MoJo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12629329
article is about lead in gasoline entering the environment. (posted by a group host)
krispos42's solution to the gun nuts calling me names and acting rude? Block me from GC&RKBA.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12629233
poster is a fellow host who admits it is meta and outside the SoP of the group but graciously gives himself a pass.

and before you claim there is nothing you can do about a fellow host, I direct your attention to the heading Hosts under About This Group
Group Hosts are assigned either by the DU Administrators, or by other Hosts of that group. Group Hosts have the following abilities: 1) They can lock threads which they believe violate the group's stated purpose; 2) they can pin threads to the top of the group; 3) they may completely block out members whom they believe are not adhering to the group's purpose; 4) they may add other members as group Hosts; and 5) they may remove any Host that became a Host after they did (and who is listed below their name on the list below).


It is quite ironic you are willing to try and police this group while ignoring hosts violating SoP in your own group.

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:46 PM

18. There is a reasonable and polite question pending in post #12, SecMo.......


Planning on responding?

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:37 PM

20. Of course he will not

 

All he has done over 500 times is a Google cut and paste without ant comment or discussion. I do find it interesting he is whining about following the sop here but allows of topic posting in his group that he actually controls.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:42 PM

10. "your crowd should stop murdering tthousands of people every year"

Smear by association.

Would it have pained you terribly if one of the patrons in Fero's had been armed with a gun and thus sent the criminals running?

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Response to Post removed (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:18 PM

14. "your crowd"

what is "your crowd"?

Gun owners? That is all gun owners are murderers

Criminals? You are accusing NU of being a criminal

Which is it?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:44 PM

17. If ugly comments from Controllers like these were water, California wouldn't have a drought. NT

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:20 PM

19. Yeah, they'd all be washed out to sea.

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