Wal-Mart wants Texas workers to verify open-carry gun permits

[SecularMotion]

AUSTIN, Texas — In response to the new open-carry gun law in Texas, Wal-Mart is asking its superstore employees to verify the validity of gun licenses of anyone who comes into the business carrying a weapon.

Wal-Mart has directed any employee who sees someone carrying a handgun to contact the highest-ranking supervisor in the store, who would then check if the gun owner had a valid license to carry the gun in public, Wal-Mart spokesman Brian Nick said.

“Our policy in all of our stores across the country is to comply with the local, state and federal laws when it comes to firearms,” Nick said. “There wasn’t anything from our policy that changed. It was just because of the local laws on the books. With liquor licenses, if a business is aware of a firearm, it is incumbent for us to make sure it is licensed.”

The policy affects Wal-Mart superstores that sell alcohol. The decision to enforce compliance came down in light of a state code that has been a part of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission’s rules for years. The code says that any business that sells alcohol will have its alcohol sales license revoked if it is determined that the business let an unlicensed gun owner bring a weapon into the store, commission spokesman Chris Porter said.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2016/01/13/wal-mart-wants-texas-workers-to-verify-open-carry-gun-permits.html

[Sanity Claws]

1. Walmart will get life insurance policies on those supervisors

It sounds awfully dangerous to confront these open carry nuts, particularly those without licenses.

[GGJohn]

6. Why would it be dangerous?

You really think someone open carrying will put their firearm and start shooting just because they were asked to show their concealed carry permit?
And before you ask what a CHL has to do with it, TX law requires a citizen to have a CHL to open carry.

[Sanity Claws]

10. Please note I said especially those without a license

Those without a license yet open carry are criminals by definition. They are in defiance of the law to have a license and think they will react very badly to any challenge. I certainly don't think I'd want to do it.

[GGJohn]

12. Why would criminals open carry? eom.

[stone space]

17. We had an open carry asshole here in Iowa. (nt)

[GGJohn]

18. And your point being..................

[stone space]

19. He should have been arrested immediately and his guns consiscated for life. (nt)

[GGJohn]

20. Why?

Was he violating any laws?

[stone space]

21. To prevent him from using his guns to murder Iowans. (nt)

[GGJohn]

22. DID HE VIOLATE ANY LAWS?

Pretty simple question.

[stone space]

23. Do you care about murdered Iowans? (nt)_

[GGJohn]

24. DID HE OR DID HE NOT VIOLATE ANY LAWS?

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
Did he shoot and murder anyone?

[stone space]

25. Yes.

Did he shoot and murder anyone?

[GGJohn]

26. Really, who did he shoot?

How about a link to the news story?

[GGJohn]

27. Got that link yet stone? eom.

[GGJohn]

29. Yep, figured you'd run away when asked to prove your claim,

That's your MO, and I knew once I asked for a link, I wouldn't hear from you again.
You're so predictable.

[stone space]

30. Laughing at the murder of an Iowan by an Open Carry Ammosexual is disgusting.

This isn't funny.

[GGJohn]

31. Lying again, as is your MO, I'm laughing at you,

and you still didn't provide a link to a story about a man open carrying shooting and killing someone.

Here is the link, and he'll spend the rest of his miserable life in prison.

http://www.kcci.com/news/reports-shots-fired-at-coral-ridge-mall/33558972

[stone space]

32. If this Open Carry Ammosexual had been arrested after terrorizing folks at Costco, ...

...and had had all of his guns confiscated for life, his victim would still be alive today.

[GGJohn]

33. Maybe, but he's just one person,

the vast majority of firearm owners, and those with carry permits, are law abiding citizens who will never use their firearm in a criminal or negligent manner.
I have a CJL and I know I'll never use it criminally nor negligently.

[stone space]

34. Why was he allowed to murder, even after terrorizing folks with his guns?

And why would you laugh in the context of an Open Carry Ammosexual murdering an Iowan?

What is so funny about cold blooded murder?

[GGJohn]

35. How the hell do I know,

ask the police.

[stone space]

36. You know, because you support the laws that allowed him to murder.

And then you come here to DU to laugh about it afterwards.

[GGJohn]

42. You just can't stop lying can you? eom.

[Sanity Claws]

28. Your post assumes that only people with licenses will open carry

That's not accurate.
Your post also assumes that there must be logical explanations for a criminal's actions. Take a look at the militia occupying the bird sanctuary in Oregon. They are openly defying the law, i.e. being criminals. Under their mindset, they are proving a point. It is not a rational point but, in their minds, it is a point. Persons who carry openly without a license have the same kind of mindset, attempting to make the same kind of point.

[stone space]

13. Are you volunteering to do the Dirty Work yourself? (nt)

[GGJohn]

14. Oh, you're back?

[GGJohn]

16. LOL, why would I?

I don't work at WalMart, I could care less if someone is open carrying, I don't get vapors over it.

[sonofspy777]

2. Newsflash: 45 highest ranking Walmart supervisors shot.

what could possibly go wrong?

[GGJohn]

7. See post #6. eom.

[Duckhunter935]

3. mmmmm, good

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tanyachen/sexy-ways-to-eat-spam#.sekz0P2xx

[rjsquirrel]

4. Good

Too bad most sane people will be avoiding stores that allow open carry at all.

I am Texan but am very glad I don't live there anymore and embarrassed to be from there. I won't spend a dime in the state of Texas until this stops, which it will once the mass killings and daily accidental deaths start to mount up enough.

In the meantime, we need a yuuuuuge wall around that state. Maybe when enough gun nuts kill each other off it will be safe.

Guarantee there's a lot of open-carrying alcoholics and meth heads too, if you know The Lone Star mentality.

[Duckhunter935]

5. same thing they said in Georgia

Blood in the streets and massive gun deaths. Did not happen. Am I wrong that for open carry, they must be licenced and have training?

[GGJohn]

9. You are correct,

in TX, to open carry, a citizen must have a CHL.

[DonP]

11. Been over a year, still waiting for that first open carry shoot out everyone predicted

You know, the one where the police can't tell if they're legal so they just open fire. Or the scenario where they see another open carry group and start shooting it out in the parking lot.

Kind'a like all the shootings predicted every time concealed carry was passed that never seem to come to pass, along with "the police shoot CCW because he had had a gun in his hand", or all the bystanders that CCW permit holders were supposed to be mowing down.

They never get tired of being wrong.

To use one of their favorite, mindless bumper sticker phrases; "What could possibly go wrong?"

The answer, based on the record is obviously; "Nothing you morons"

[rjsquirrel]

38. Just wait

And there have indeed been shootouts between open carrying combatants already.

[DonP]

40. So where's the cite to your story?

If something like that happened it must have made the local and national news.

Or is this another one of those "it stands to reason that ..." stories that gun control fans so dearly love ... and make up from whole cloth?

[jimmy the one]

41. open carry shootout

donP: .... Been over a year, still waiting for that first open carry shoot out everyone predicted

You obviously do not understand what the word 'everyone' means. Pls consult one of our fine online dictionaries before using it again.
Can you post an example of anyone contending what you described in your post? so we can read it in context? or are you fabricating just another imaginary gun scenario like you did with those knife owners being wrongly depicted as killers by us gun control advocates (note: not one gca did what he alleged).

911 Operator Allegedly Cited Open-Carry Law and Refused to Send Cops Before Colorado

Moments before a man went on a shooting rampage in Colorado over the weekend, his neighbor reportedly called 911 to report that he appeared to be distressed and was brandishing an AR-15 assault rifle. But instead of sending the cops, the dispatcher allegedly told the caller that it's perfectly legal under state law to openly carry firearms in public.
The man, identified as 33-year-old Noah Harpham, gunned down two people before police in Colorado Springs arrived on the scene. Harpham claimed one other victim before he was killed in a shootout with police. Authorities are not releasing the tape of the 911 call placed by Harpham's neighbor Naomi Bettis, and it's unclear whether the dispatcher ignored a reasonable report of suspicious behavior.
Bettis told the Washington Post that she called 911 on Saturday morning to report her neighbor, who was standing in his yard holding a rifle.
"I couldn't tell if it was real or not, it being Halloween day, you know," Bettis said. "But that's what I told her, and all of a sudden she started saying something about— I don't remember what they call it — open arms… and she said, you know, we have that law here. And it just kind of blew me away, like she didn't believe me or something."
https://news.vice.com/article/911-operator-allegedly-cited-open-carry-law-and-refused-to-send-cops-before-colorado-shooting-spree
dispatcher was apparently referencing Colorado's lax open-carry laws, which allow citizens to carry assault rifles and other firearms in public without a permit. In other words, Harpham's behavior was legal right up until the moment he opened fire on random people on the street.

[friendly_iconoclast]

44. Would you have felt better, or Hapham's victims been less dead, if he was carrying concealed?

[GGJohn]

8. So do tell me why this hasn't happened in my state of AZ?

Hell, in AZ, you don't even need any permit to carry, either open or concealed, like in TX, and tell us why it hasn't happened in every other state that allows open carry.

[TeddyR]

37. 45 states allow open carry

FORTY FIVE!!! Are you going to boycott those states too? Texas is not the first to pass this law and in fact joined the party very late. Texas' open carry laws are actually more restrictive than many in that they require a concealed carry license. Vermont has allowed open carry during its entire existence. I'm not aware of bloodbaths in the street of Vermont by people exercising open carry rights. I myself am not a fan but the idea that Texas is going to descend into chaos because it now permits open carry is contrary to the experience of every other state over hundreds of years.

[rjsquirrel]

39. I boycott businesses

that allow open carry.

The problem is that open carry used to be limited to mostly professionally trained gun owners.

Now meth head dolts are walking into Chilis with AR-15s on their shoulders.

As a long time hunter and gun owner I recognize the arguments of zealots.

[TeddyR]

43. States

Allow open carry. Businesses don't make laws. Are you boycotting. States?

[beevul]

45. Then call the police...

Now meth head dolts are walking into Chilis with AR-15s on their shoulders.

Then call the police, because its unlawful to be an unlawful user of controlled substances and in possession of firearms.

Then again, maybe you just threw in the 'meth user' as a pejorative, and you really got nothing.

[Duckhunter935]

46. did you call the police

Since you know they are illegal drug users with a firearm? If no, then you are the problem. But I highly suspect the only place this happened is on your imagination. I am sure you will be able to post some links of arrests. My guess is you also will not respond to this post and if you do it will be to post an insult or change the subject.

[gejohnston]

47. would a meth head have a gun

and not sell it for meth? Back when I was young and dumb, I dated a woman smoked two packs a day. Once she was short on cash, and raided her kid's piggy bank to pay for cancer sticks.

[Duckhunter935]

48. yep, method is nasty shit

I think he is just making it up

[ileus]

15. Goofy walmart turds...it's not the holstered firearms you need to worry about.