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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:32 PM Sep 2020

How *not* to carry concealed:

Oregon man shoots self in groin while showing off gun in supermarket checkout line, cops say

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/09/oregon-man-shoots-self-in-groin-while-showing-off-gun-in-supermarket-checkout-line-cops-say.html

An Oregon man is on the mend after police say he accidentally shot himself in the groin while flaunting a concealed handgun at a Lincoln City supermarket.

The mishap occurred Sunday night when Nicholas J. Ellingford, 29, brandished his Glock 9mm in the checkout line at McKay’s Market on U.S. 101 and tried to show it off to a buddy, according to the Lincoln City Police Department.

Ellingford mistakenly pulled the trigger as he stuffed the piece back into his pants, police said. A bullet tore through the gunslinger’s groin and exited his thigh, just barely missing the man’s femoral artery.

The gruesome wound required Ellingford to be airlifted to Legacy Emanuel Medical Center in Portland, said police, which added that he did not have a concealed handgun license and could face criminal charges for his reckless behavior.


Let's see....

1) Pants carry.

2) Finger on the trigger while putting gun into pants.

3) Showing off "concealed" gun while in line at the checkout counter.

Millions of people practice safe, responsible concealed carrry every day. This guy, needless to say, wasn't one of them.
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How *not* to carry concealed: (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 OP
These incidents can also be referred to as "self-thinning the herd". abqtommy Sep 2020 #1
OR DENVERPOPS Sep 2020 #6
The only way to practice safe, safeinOhio Sep 2020 #2
Couldn't disagree more. A Glock is perfectly safe to carry with a round in the chamber, providing Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #4
In another article about this accident, that man had a Glock. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #7
I would bet a great deal of money that in virtually every one of those deaths Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #10
I have a story about a "moron" for you. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #8
Not immediately checking to see if there's a round in the chamber upon picking up a firearm is Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #9
I'd bet safeinOhio Sep 2020 #11
I don't have children, nor are any ever in my home...but even so, I keep my firearms secured Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #12
for sometime, I've looked for incidents where a gun owner was killed or severely injured Kaleva Sep 2020 #18
I concealed carry a Astra A70 9mm oneshooter Sep 2020 #13
Just a another day in America. Mystery sage Sep 2020 #3
A foreseeable outcome sarisataka Sep 2020 #5
A lack of training and no proper holster will do that to you. ManiacJoe Sep 2020 #14
The mechanics of semi-auto pistols are beyond the grasp of many people. (nt) Paladin Sep 2020 #15
I'm reminded of an acquaintance who asked me for advice on his first handgun. Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #16
That was good advice you gave him. He should have taken it. (nt) Paladin Sep 2020 #17
Practice with a .22 handgun can teach you the basics of shooting. ... spin Nov 2020 #19

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
2. The only way to practice safe,
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:45 PM
Sep 2020

responsible concealed carrry every day is to ban having a round in the chamber of all semi auto. Whether carrying, transporting or storing. Even for cops.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
4. Couldn't disagree more. A Glock is perfectly safe to carry with a round in the chamber, providing
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

you don't pull the trigger "accidently", as this moron did.

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
7. In another article about this accident, that man had a Glock.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:55 PM
Sep 2020

. From 2006-2016, almost 6,885 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings. In 2016 alone, there were 495 incidents of accidental firearm deaths.

I have no problem with a "Well Regulated Militia".

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
10. I would bet a great deal of money that in virtually every one of those deaths
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:23 PM
Sep 2020

at least one of the basic rules of firearm safety was broken.

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
8. I have a story about a "moron" for you.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:00 PM
Sep 2020

About 10 years ago I was talking to an old guy at a flea market. I noticed a cast on his left hand and asked what happen. He told me he was cleaning his pistol when it went off. Then he told me that he has been a NRA safety instructor for 35 years. It happened to be a Glock. When you drop the magazine, it is pretty easy to forget the one in the chamber, even for highly trained gun owners.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
9. Not immediately checking to see if there's a round in the chamber upon picking up a firearm is
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:21 PM
Sep 2020

blatent disregard for gun safety. AS a safety instructor, he has even less excuse (not that there really is one) than most.

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
11. I'd bet
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:23 PM
Sep 2020

9 out of 10 do it some if not most of the time. The little kid that finds the hidden one in the house, never.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
12. I don't have children, nor are any ever in my home...but even so, I keep my firearms secured
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:28 PM
Sep 2020

in safes whenever I'm not home. I do have a single firearm available for self defense while I am at home, but if I had children it would either be in a quick-access safe of some sort, or on my person. I would never leave it simply "hidden".

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
18. for sometime, I've looked for incidents where a gun owner was killed or severely injured
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:09 PM
Sep 2020

by an assailant because the gun owner didn't have a round in the chamber. I haven't found any. I have found instances where a person, usually a police officer, was killed when an assailant took control of the gun, which had a round in the chamber, and shot the gun owner. And then there's quite a few cases every year where somebody is killed or injured because there was a round in the chamber and the person with the gun accidentally or negligently pulled the trigger.

Based on what I could find, it appears to me that the evidence shows bad things are more likely to happen to innocent people when there is a round in the chamber then when not and I have yet to find any evidence that suggests that not having a round in the chamber puts the gun owner at great risk.

We wouldn't need seat belts if everyone drove safely.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
13. I concealed carry a Astra A70 9mm
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:23 PM
Sep 2020

Single/double action with a decocker, no manual safety. Safe when carried hammer down, as there is a hammer block that only moves if the trigger is pulled through the double action stroke. I have carried this as my "summer carry" for 20+ years with no problem. My winter carry is a SIG 220, 45acp. Same set up with a decocker.

Mystery sage

(576 posts)
3. Just a another day in America.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:46 PM
Sep 2020

Man shows off is Glock
Man put glock in pocket
Man,s short penis starts leaking
Turns out his glock execute all his future children
Good bye kids.

sarisataka

(18,651 posts)
5. A foreseeable outcome
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:53 PM
Sep 2020

resulting from a series of poor choices and irresponsible actions.

You could also add legal to safe and responsible of which this fellow went 0-3

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
16. I'm reminded of an acquaintance who asked me for advice on his first handgun.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:13 PM
Sep 2020

I first suggested a .22, but he said he only wanted a single handgun for self-defense. I then said his best bet would be a .357 magnum revolver, but loaded with .38 Specials until he gained more proficiency. Nope, he said, it has to be a semiauto.

All right then, how about a Ruger Security-9 or Glock 19? Simple, reliable...nope. Not "cool" enough, it seems. In the end he buys a Rock Island 1911 .45, one of the least appropriate guns for someone without firearms experience.

Why did he even ask?

spin

(17,493 posts)
19. Practice with a .22 handgun can teach you the basics of shooting. ...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:37 AM
Nov 2020

The money you save by using .22 ammo can buy you a more powerful handgun in the future.

Of course there is little recoil with a .22 caliber handgun but it’s the recoil of a handgun that can complicate learning how to shoot accurately

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