FBI table: California gun ban vs murders

[Tejas]

In 2010, even with whatever Ban-of-the-Week was in style, California still lead the US in number of murders committed with a firearm.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls

[movonne]

1. enough gun talk...let talk about the victums...in all

this gun talk we are forgetting about the victums...

[Tejas]

5. Unless you feel you just HAVE to disrupt this one,

feel free to start a thread yourself and talk about whatever victums you are concerned about. It's easy, and if you do start a thread I hope nobody trolls it with useless tangents, lot of that going on lately.

[bluerum]

2. Wonder how many of those muders were commited with weapons

trafficked in from out of state?

The numbers look population dependent. CA, TX, NY in descending order. NY has pretty strict gun laws. So does MA. Vermont is virtually unregulated but also has a tiny population.

[gejohnston]

4. Let's ask the ATF

http://www.atf.gov/statistics/download/trace-data/2011/2011-trace-data-california.pdf

[gejohnston]

3. what is really interesting

DC and USVI vs Wyoming and Vermont.
DC's population is about the same as Vermont's but higher than Wyoming. USVI has a much smaller population.

[LonePirate]

6. Of course California would lead that list since it is by total numbers and not per capita.

Several red states like AZ, GA, LA have higher per capita numbers than CA. The New England states generally have the lowest per capita numbers per region. I'll let people draw their own conclusions from that.

[gejohnston]

7. Want to see a stronger correlation?

http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/why
http://247wallst.com/2012/05/31/ten-states-with-the-worst-income-inequality/

Vermont has the laxest gun laws in the US. New Hampshire isn't too far behind.
DC and USVI top Wyoming, Vermont, in both total numbers and per capita.