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ileus

(15,396 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:32 PM Aug 2012

Saudi Girls Demanding the Right To Own, Train With, and Carry Firearms

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/02/230033.html

The increasing crime rate especially with the remarkable rise in the number of illegal manpower and the consequent frequency of armed burglaries drove Saudi girls to demand the right to carry weapons and get the necessary training to use them for self-defense.

“I call upon officials to establish training centers that teach girls shooting in summer vacations and over weekends,” said university student Nora al-Asmari.


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It is important, he added, that those centers focus on the use of weapons as an act of self-defense to be used in case of attacks only.

“Trainees have to learn that they should not infringe on other people’s rights and trainers should point out the difference between violence and self-defense.”

Shamri also recommended that girls learn other means of self-defense like martial arts.

“They should also acquire the mental skills needed to react to dangerous situations,” he said.

Askar al-Askar, researcher in Islamic affairs and counter-terrorism, said there is no contradiction between teaching girls self-defense and Islamic teachings.




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Saudi Girls Demanding the Right To Own, Train With, and Carry Firearms (Original Post) ileus Aug 2012 OP
They're just compensating 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #1
So if accepted, no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #2
Saudi Arabia won't decide women are people all at once 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #4
cars are warming the planet and gejohnston Aug 2012 #5
They are just tired of the fundamentalist macho guys having guns they use for intimidating ladies. Hoyt Aug 2012 #6
Disarming everyone would be a good way to keep women in their place 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #7
Hey now a Missycim Aug 2012 #9
Assault beans need to be regulated. /sarcasm rDigital Aug 2012 #13
good ideal!! kooljerk666 Aug 2012 #3
Most Americans are too lazy, they'll just eat a pizza and order an ergonomic assault weapon Hoyt Aug 2012 #8
LOL WUT? OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #12
How would the Jenoch Aug 2012 #10
I'm guessing the pistols would stay in the homes gejohnston Aug 2012 #11
I was being facetious. Jenoch Aug 2012 #14
The same way they conceal everything else. PavePusher Aug 2012 #15
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
1. They're just compensating
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:40 PM
Aug 2012

the criminals will just take those guns away from them. They're more likely to shoot themselves than a criminal. And so on.

/just to get it out of the way

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
2. So if accepted,
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
Aug 2012

women in Saudi Arabia would be able to carry and use weapons, but still couldn't drive motor vehicles.

I don't see it.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
4. Saudi Arabia won't decide women are people all at once
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:51 PM
Aug 2012

it will take baby-steps.

It was a huge deal to allow one woman to compete in the Olympics (in a headscarf no less).

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
5. cars are warming the planet and
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:53 PM
Aug 2012

driving the polar bears to extinction. Guns, not so much. Been to Saudi Arabia, always took mass transit. I would never drive there.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. They are just tired of the fundamentalist macho guys having guns they use for intimidating ladies.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
Aug 2012

If they had political power, the women should go for disarming the macho men --that would be better for their society. Hopefully, they'll soon evolve.

But, it'll probably take longer here because NRA and other right wing gun groups own Congress. And whether right wing or not, the gun culture does NRA's bidding.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
7. Disarming everyone would be a good way to keep women in their place
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:18 PM
Aug 2012

you've noticed that women tend to be smaller and physically weaker than men right?

There's all sorts of studies on it.

Anyway if you force women to rely on their brute strength to defend themselves (rather than some equalizer like a weapon) they will always lose to men.

So yeah I'm sure Saudis would be happier to have a thoroughly disarmed society rather than one that allows women the right to self-defense.


/in case it wasn't clear "in their place" was a reference to how woman are viewed in that society. Not my personal preference.

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
3. good ideal!!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
Aug 2012

I did 5 years of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizongyi style Kung Fu and though it has been 20 years, if I
do A first strike I could probably take anyone but a marine, seal or army ranger. (or a healthy martial arts practitioner)

One problem is if they end up dead, which ain't that hard you get cops involved.

I am going to be going to school board meeting & raising hell, team sports need to be thrown out.
They have no relevant reasons to exist. With all the mass killings, make a choice, let your children be helpless & in danger their whole lives or teach them how to fight.

Womens soccer is more dangerous than mens football. If you want to stop sexual abuse, teach a woman how to stomp the crap out of all challengers. If I had any children, they would be going to kung fu & be taught
Phillipino stick fighting & combat handgunning.

My teacher was a 5'4" woman & every few weeks a competing teacher would come in to challenge her skill & a fight would ensue.

She beat the crap out of every last one & they were all way bigger than her.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Most Americans are too lazy, they'll just eat a pizza and order an ergonomic assault weapon
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:19 PM
Aug 2012

to strut through town in the one in a million chance they actually need a gun to handle a situation. And, they won't carry pepper spray, or anything, because it is just not sexy/lethal enough for fragile egos.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
11. I'm guessing the pistols would stay in the homes
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:48 PM
Aug 2012

and they don't wear the abaya at home with family, they only wear the outfit in public. They wear it over their real clothes.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. I was being facetious.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:21 PM
Aug 2012

The headline says the Saudi women wish to carry weapons. They could hide a howitzer under their robes.

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