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rDigital

(2,239 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:57 PM Sep 2012

I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.

I'm starting this post today Saturday 9/15/2012. Just like every other day in Ohio, I'm lawfully carrying a firearm for self and family protection.

I've been lawfully carrying in Ohio and other states since 2005. I'm not a LEO or any type of government agent. I'm an armed U.S. Citizen who's taking advantage of the first human right: the right of self-defense. I've been shooting handguns since I was 12 years old, rifles came much later. My father a life long Democrat and Union Organizer was spooked by the 1994 AWB and decided to buy some firearms, which he trained my family members and I on. I never lost interest and practiced regularly.

Today, I'm carrying my Glock 17 9mm. It hold 17 rounds 9x19mm ammuntion in the magazine + 1 round in the chamber. It sits in a custom made Zlogonje leather holster concealed at the 5 O'Clock position on my waist. Believe it or not, it hides quite well. I carry an extra magazine with me because the most likely thing to break on a semi-auto pistol is the magazine. The extra capacity is a secondary concern to reliable function, but still a comfort.

The ammunition that I carry is 127 grain Ranger T +P+ (improved Ranger SXT/Black Talon), this loading has shown to be very effective in ballistic gelatin (meets FBI 12" penetration standard) and produces quite controllable recoil due to it's relatively light weight.

I'm going to check in every day that I've carried a firearm.....and no one was hurt by it. I encourage others to do the same. No second hand experiences, just your own.

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- A picture of my G17 in class.


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I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. (Original Post) rDigital Sep 2012 OP
Does it ever jam on you? NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #1
Luckily, I have not experienced any malfunctions with my G17. It is one of the most reliable rDigital Sep 2012 #4
I'm guessing you don't own a Glock trouble.smith Sep 2012 #14
Good for you. jehop61 Sep 2012 #2
+1000000 n/t Control-Z Sep 2012 #5
Thanks for demonstrating so vividly why "gun control" is failing. Simo 1939_1940 Oct 2012 #204
If you ever start feeling insane....please don't get in your car. PavePusher Sep 2012 #15
So what can YOU do that shows YOU are not crazy today? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #157
OMG shadowrider Sep 2012 #3
; ) Bullet HOSE!!! nt rDigital Sep 2012 #8
I haven't had the need for one today and have not felt the least bit worried about not having one DrDan Sep 2012 #6
May your good luck continue. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #19
it has for a lot of years . . . and I don't really consider it luck DrDan Sep 2012 #23
No one has a guarantee that a violent criminal won't target them. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #40
no one can guarantee a freedom from accidents and mistakes while using a firearm DrDan Sep 2012 #42
yet cars are more dangerous gejohnston Sep 2012 #44
so it is not the drivers . . hmmm . . . DrDan Sep 2012 #49
It is the drivers, gejohnston Sep 2012 #54
My probability of a gun accident is lower than the crime probability. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #77
but the possiblility exists, does it not? DrDan Sep 2012 #79
Of course it does. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #88
Excellent contribution, GSC. Solid post. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #89
hmmmmmm - one of us has to carry - one of us does not DrDan Sep 2012 #90
One is pro-choice, the other is not. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #93
I choose no weapons DrDan Sep 2012 #96
Not everyone makes the same choice, but it's important that they get to choose. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #97
That is your choice Missycim Sep 2012 #98
your choice can still be restricted . . . until the NRA purchases the necessary legislation DrDan Sep 2012 #113
Well get cracking Missycim Sep 2012 #114
Not "has to carry", but chooses to carry. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #116
I think there are many here who HAVE to carry . . . just my opinion, of course DrDan Sep 2012 #122
I think at least three gejohnston Sep 2012 #123
then there are a few who feel naked when not carrying DrDan Sep 2012 #124
Can't speak for them. gejohnston Sep 2012 #125
And no one has a guarantee that that gun won't go off accidentally. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #232
Guns are really pretty simple DaveBeal Dec 2012 #235
Tone down the language pls. It only makes it harder to accept reality when you are proven to be rDigital Dec 2012 #236
Guns don't go off accidentally. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #237
Not luck? It's is the Law of Probability. cleanhippie Sep 2012 #158
good luck with that DrDan Sep 2012 #159
Good luck with what? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #167
It's not a matter of luck. It's a matter of REALITY. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #33
Over 1.3 million victims of violent crime per year is also a REALITY. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #41
Consider yourself fortunate Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #47
Intense. Good share, solid post. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #50
Good post. Thanks for sharing. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #71
Unexpected danger doesn't happen where you think it will Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #83
Ditto 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #127
depends gejohnston Sep 2012 #128
Uh huh. EVERYONE. 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author glacierbay Sep 2012 #130
it is one thing for people who know what they are talking about gejohnston Sep 2012 #131
It is one thing for me to know what I'm talking about 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #132
None of those links have anything to support your guess that more guns in the theater petronius Sep 2012 #134
i.e. more guns = more deaths 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #135
Your links had to do with the prevalence of firearms within a general population petronius Sep 2012 #137
Sooooo, rrneck Sep 2012 #139
certainly not because more guns LEAD TO less crime . . . is it? DrDan Sep 2012 #144
No. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #148
we are talking about one specific case gejohnston Sep 2012 #136
absolutely agree - more John Wayne's are not needed DrDan Sep 2012 #143
whew. n/t BlueToTheBone Sep 2012 #7
But Civilization was diminished. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #9
How? nt rDigital Sep 2012 #12
+1000 Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #73
I carried my kimber pepper blaster and knife to my sons football ileus Sep 2012 #10
I don't carry, but I didn't get shot either. rrneck Sep 2012 #11
I can beat that. I carried a gun today while purchsing another gun that I will soon carry trouble.smith Sep 2012 #13
B-bu-bu-butttt.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #17
When we went to the range I carried my SR on my right and my LCP on my left hip. ileus Sep 2012 #24
Guns kill people. discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #16
Pfffttt Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #18
.45's are for hillbillies..... rDigital Sep 2012 #20
I have ben known to carry a variety of CHL firearms. oneshooter Sep 2012 #21
I sold my P220 Elite SAO to a tunnel rat. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #25
Hillbilly you say... Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #36
LOL. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #107
HEY!!!! I resemble that remark!!!! virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #108
over 250 rounds without an incident also... ileus Sep 2012 #22
proud of my son as well . . . and my daughter DrDan Sep 2012 #38
My son turns 8 tomorrow ileus Sep 2012 #39
my son and daughter are older than yours - adults - educated - employed - hard workers DrDan Sep 2012 #43
Sounds like his children will be that much further ahead than yours... Clames Sep 2012 #45
very possible - but a lot can be said for being brought up in an environment absent of paranoia DrDan Sep 2012 #48
has nothing to do with paranoia gejohnston Sep 2012 #53
What does target shooting have to do with you imagined paranoia? ileus Sep 2012 #58
The phenomena we are observing here is called "projection bias". nt rDigital Sep 2012 #67
So yours are paranoid of gun owners and inanimate objects? Clames Sep 2012 #69
not paranoid of gun owners and inanimate objects at all . . . . DrDan Sep 2012 #74
So can I. Clames Sep 2012 #78
I carried today as well. Oneka Sep 2012 #26
I didn't carry a lethal weapon today! And no one was hurt!! 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #27
You own plenty of lethal weapons. PavePusher Sep 2012 #28
Yes. Life is very good for me indeed! 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author glacierbay Sep 2012 #30
4 days a week I carry open and concealed glacierbay Sep 2012 #31
Why? Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #37
Some departments require it, from most it is optional ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #46
Our Dept. makes it optional glacierbay Sep 2012 #55
I didn't carry a gun today and nobody attacked me MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #32
That's cool! I'm very glad that you were able to make the choice that is best for you petronius Sep 2012 #34
I carry a gun every day and no one has ever been hurt by it. rl6214 Sep 2012 #35
very impressive randr Sep 2012 #51
Why are you doing this? Intentional annoyance? Desperate for attention? Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #52
I carried the first part of today, now it's locked in the handgun safe ileus Sep 2012 #56
I don't carry, I'm not allowed to. sir pball Sep 2012 #57
You need to be one of the 1% then your 2A rights would extend to you. ileus Sep 2012 #59
Has there ever been a single instance.... Liberal Gramma Sep 2012 #60
I would say yes discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #61
All I hope for Liberal Gramma Sep 2012 #63
Agreed but... Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #64
Valid point Liberal Gramma Sep 2012 #66
Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #70
OK, we've reached the point of agreeing to disagree Liberal Gramma Sep 2012 #72
"I do favor control of assault weapons." Simo 1939_1940 Oct 2012 #205
I don't carry. discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #65
The difference is that pro-gunners rarely try to talk YOU into carrying something Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #121
Yes, but it is rather rare here. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #75
People can indeed, change. Oneka Sep 2012 #86
I am all for the 2nd Amendment, but some, like the OP seem a bit over the top Vinnie From Indy Sep 2012 #62
I don't know a day in the life of your common carrier is interesting. ileus Sep 2012 #68
That's just a juvenile opinion rl6214 Sep 2012 #95
I rode my bike without a helmet today and didn't suffer a concussion. nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #76
Heavens.'better take out a billboard. No, you need to hire the Goodyear Blimp! 24/7! Shout the news hlthe2b Sep 2012 #80
Fascinating. I saw a plane today and it didn't crash. I was amazed. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #81
I don't own a gun, I am alive and kicking. And I went swimming too graham4anything Sep 2012 #82
Guns don't kill people... deathrind Sep 2012 #84
Herrington v. United States (2010) petronius Sep 2012 #91
And you have no right to access to ink or electrons.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #92
I have no doubt that the 1A case regarding a tax on newspaper ink would serve petronius Sep 2012 #94
I'm gonna drop my 380 in my pocket shortly then go teach the youth group. ileus Sep 2012 #85
LCP right? You carry one in the chamber? nt rDigital Sep 2012 #87
Yeah LCP condition one. ileus Sep 2012 #99
Another day another carry. Oneka Sep 2012 #100
Thank you for caring about society and your family. ileus Sep 2012 #106
You're welcome Oneka Sep 2012 #109
Love my Kahr CW9, perfect size for IWB for me madville Sep 2012 #101
congratulations fascisthunter Sep 2012 #102
The G17 is a little large for concealed carry (for me, anyway) MercutioATC Sep 2012 #103
Agreed. The g19 is a far better CCW piece. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #104
09/16/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #105
made it through the whole day without a crutch . . . er, a gun . . . without a single incident DrDan Sep 2012 #115
Me too! I love my non-paranoid world! 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #126
same with my 2 children, both now adults DrDan Sep 2012 #145
what if gejohnston Sep 2012 #147
I am proud of them for staying away from guns DrDan Sep 2012 #150
So if one of them got a gold medal for gejohnston Sep 2012 #151
I am proud of their choice to stay away from guns DrDan Sep 2012 #152
I'm proud of both of my kids for a number of reasons gejohnston Sep 2012 #160
it is relevant to me . . . sign of maturity DrDan Sep 2012 #162
It is a cultural difference having nothing to do with maturity. gejohnston Sep 2012 #163
question whatever you like . . . but please do not speak for me DrDan Sep 2012 #170
Today, 9-16 Roadtrip home from beach vacation virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #110
don't larwdem Sep 2012 #111
What makes you think I'm male? nt rDigital Sep 2012 #112
are those your hands in the OP pic? ileus Sep 2012 #117
Not my hands. You have good attention to detail. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #119
I doubt anyone will take gun advice from someone... PavePusher Sep 2012 #118
I carried a gun all day yesterday, and even met someone else who carried a gun. chibajoe Sep 2012 #120
LCP and M&P 9c....no incidents. ileus Sep 2012 #133
9-17 I carried all day, again and as usual... virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #138
With any luck I will have the engine for my Ferret completed next week. oneshooter Sep 2012 #142
Oneshooter, you have me at a disadvantage... virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #146
A Ferret is a British built all terrain vehicle. oneshooter Sep 2012 #149
And to keep this post gun related oneshooter Sep 2012 #165
Very VERY nice!!! LOL it don't take "clips" or "magazines" virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #169
09-17-12 Oneka Sep 2012 #140
9/17/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #141
9/18/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #153
9/18 another LCP carry without incident. ileus Sep 2012 #154
9-18-12 Oneka Sep 2012 #155
9/19/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #156
Another successful day of keeping me and my family protected. ileus Sep 2012 #161
I carried seven lethal weapons today (9/20) and no one was hurt by them. friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #164
09-19, another day another: Oneka Sep 2012 #166
That's a cute one! nt rDigital Sep 2012 #168
9/20/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #171
9/21/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #172
You better wrap that death spewing killing machine rrneck Sep 2012 #173
I'm doing my best to keep it under wraps. I appreciate the concern. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #176
09-20 and 21 Oneka Sep 2012 #174
I really appreciate that you are including pictures of your EDC. It adds a touch of reality to the rDigital Sep 2012 #177
6 days without incident this week. ileus Sep 2012 #175
9/22/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #178
09/23/2012: I carried a gun yesterday and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #179
09/24/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #180
09/25/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #181
09/26/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #182
I carry daily, will be carrying tonight when I check out the families business oneshooter Sep 2012 #183
09/27/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #184
09/28/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #185
Another 7 days of perfect carry. ileus Sep 2012 #186
But what about when you WEREN'T carrying the gun? Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #187
Those days are rare, but I also have to sleep. You are an intelligent rDigital Sep 2012 #188
09/29/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #189
I OC'd yesterday and even encountered a bear. ileus Sep 2012 #190
09/30/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Sep 2012 #191
Another day of super-safe carry. Thanks 2A... ileus Oct 2012 #192
I carried concealed into both a bank and a Credit Union today. oneshooter Oct 2012 #193
10/01/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #194
10/02/2012: I carried a gun today an no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #195
10/03/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #196
10/04/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #197
10/05/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #198
LCP while out, then my SR22 around the property....no incidents. ileus Oct 2012 #199
09-22, through today. Oneka Oct 2012 #200
10/06/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #201
10/07/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #202
10/08/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #203
Two more days with my PSD...no incidents. ileus Oct 2012 #206
10/09/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #207
10/10/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Oct 2012 #208
12/06/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. rDigital Dec 2012 #209
You must be an extremely strong person to resist the urgings of your evil Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2012 #210
12/7/12 I carried my death spewing penis extension today and no one got Berserker Dec 2012 #216
Color me surprised... and not! ; ) nt rDigital Dec 2012 #217
You too, sir/maam - should be ashamed. Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2012 #223
I ate the flesh of animals, and enjoyed it! slackmaster Dec 2012 #211
LOL, beef jerky FTW! nt rDigital Dec 2012 #212
A cow and a chicken died so that I could eat today. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #213
We are all very happy that you haven't hurt anyone yet. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #214
I think the past is the best predictor of the future in my case. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #215
I agree. Hence my question. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #219
I think I understand your question better now. (and I'm on a desktop now rather than an iPhone.) rDigital Dec 2012 #224
OK. So given all that, why do you carry? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #225
I carry because I care. rDigital Dec 2012 #229
Stop trolling. Clames Dec 2012 #218
That's pretty funny, coming from our resident troll. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #220
That's also another thing you lack. Clames Dec 2012 #222
Another great day without incident while carrying my PSD. ileus Dec 2012 #221
I had a rifle when I was a kid. No one got shot, but it did make my shoulder sore. ;) ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #226
When you gotta go, you gotta go. :) We have the enumerated right to dump. lol ; ) nt rDigital Dec 2012 #227
In the event ... JEFF9K Dec 2012 #228
My wife is on DU is well. She'll let you know! : ) nt rDigital Dec 2012 #230
So fucking what? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #231
This message was self-deleted by its author rDigital Dec 2012 #233
2 more recs and on to the greatest page!! nt rDigital Dec 2012 #234
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Does it ever jam on you?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sep 2012

I have the worst luck with some of my semiautos with jamming.

Don't own this model, though.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
4. Luckily, I have not experienced any malfunctions with my G17. It is one of the most reliable
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:10 PM
Sep 2012

firearms that I own. What semi-auto is giving you all of this trouble?

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
204. Thanks for demonstrating so vividly why "gun control" is failing.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:40 PM
Oct 2012

The photo in the OP demonstrates that rDigital is female, you endorse the notion that she might "go crazy" - and you feature a Trust Women graphic with your sig. Without any recognition of hypocrisy. Wow.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
157. So what can YOU do that shows YOU are not crazy today?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:30 PM
Sep 2012

Your post certainly isn't helping your case.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
40. No one has a guarantee that a violent criminal won't target them.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:27 AM
Sep 2012

The FBI stats are that there are over 1.3 million reported violent crimes every year. Nobody knows how many unreported violent crimes there are. I can easily google news and come up with lots of reports of people who did everything right and were still victims of violent crime. Their luck simply ran out.

With a population of about 320 million, the odds strongly favor you. I will readily admit that. But it is still a probability statement. You don't have a guarantee, nor do I. So there is an element of luck involved.

So I carry, just in case my luck runs out, even though I do everything else right to avoid crime.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
42. no one can guarantee a freedom from accidents and mistakes while using a firearm
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:28 AM
Sep 2012

still a probability regardless of how well trained and how well intentioned.

Nope - will steer clear as much as possible.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
44. yet cars are more dangerous
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

If I lived in a more walkable community, I would steer clear of them.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
49. so it is not the drivers . . hmmm . . .
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

when it comes to guns, I thought the people were at fault.

but I get it . . . the reason for the conflict in logic, that is.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
54. It is the drivers,
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:40 PM
Sep 2012

you sounded like it was the gun not the human. With cars, it is not always the human, brakes fail etc.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
88. Of course it does.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:38 PM
Sep 2012

I have been around guns my entire life. I have never had a negligent discharge, but I have been a crime victim. Your paranoia regading legal gun carriers is illogical. We save more innocent lives than we take.

Legal concealed carry saves more innocent lives than it takes.

In Texas the detailed statistics are compiled annually by the Department of Public Safety and published on the internet. It is likely that the Texas experience with Concealed Handgun Licenses would be about the same in other states. The last year for which statistics are published is 2011 for convictions. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/index.htm


In 2011 there were 512,625 people who had CHLs. Out of those people there were exactly four (4) murder convictions. Out of the general population there were 553 convictions for murder in its various forms.

So very, very few CHL holders go bad, but some do.

The DPS also publishes an annual Crime in Texas Report. http://www.dps.texas.gov/crimereports/10/citCh3.pdf
From that report, page 15:

Statistics on murder circumstances, victims, and
victim/offender relationships on the next page
include justifiable homicides. Justifiable homicide
is the killing of a felon by a peace officer in the
line of duty or the killing (during the commission
of a felony) of a felon by a private citizen. In
2010, there were 98 justifiable homicides, of
which, 50 were felons killed by private citizens,
and 48 were felons killed by police.



In Texas all homicides, even those that are clearly self-defense, have to go before a grand jury which will rule if the killing was justified or not. So those 50 justified private citizen homicides were ones in which the defender genuinely and legitimately feared for his life. Since most shootings are merely woundings there would be a much larger number of justified woundings in which the defender genuinely feared for his life, but that number is not kept. Obviously there are dozens of cases each year in which a CHL holder uses their gun to save themselves.


Dozens of innocent lives saved versus four innocents killed shows the concealed carry is working in Texas. As already stated, there is no reason to believe that other CCW states have a different experience.


Legal concealed carry saves innocent lives.

 

Missycim

(950 posts)
114. Well get cracking
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:45 AM
Sep 2012

you have a lot of work ahead of you changing the 2nd, you better have tons of money as well.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
116. Not "has to carry", but chooses to carry.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:57 AM
Sep 2012

Why are you afraid of those of us who carry legally? I have just proven to you that we save more innocent lives than we take. You have a greater probability of being struck by lightning than of being illegally shot & killed by a CCWer.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
123. I think at least three
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:53 PM
Sep 2012

Have to because their employer requires it. Some may have to because of an identifiable threat to their safety. Perhaps not.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
125. Can't speak for them.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:02 PM
Sep 2012

I only carry on back country hikes, often long range, in Wyoming. Don't have CCW for either Florida or Wyoming. They go to the range in a lock box.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
232. And no one has a guarantee that that gun won't go off accidentally.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:07 PM
Dec 2012

But hey, since the odds strongly favor that your gun will hurt or kill someone, I guess you can trust your fucking stupid luck.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
236. Tone down the language pls. It only makes it harder to accept reality when you are proven to be
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 03:09 AM
Dec 2012

wrong.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117265861


Privately Owned Firearms
The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States is 270,000,000
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

270 Million! That's a lot of guns. I think that horse is already out of the barn.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls

8.775 murders by firearms in 2010 compared with 270 million guns in the United States.

That means that of the total civilian guns in circulation only 0.00325% are ever used to murder another person. That's a little over 3/1000's of 1%. Thats a whole lot of guns doing a whole lot of nothing. If guns are ONLY designed to kill, It sounds like most guns are defective.


Infact, the chances are EXCEEDINGLY rare that your firearm will be used to kill or hurt anyone.
You have to back up words with facts. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Happy Sunday!

..... and here's another nugget of wisdom. Free of charge!
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GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
237. Guns don't go off accidentally.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:02 AM
Dec 2012

There are negligent discharges, but and accidental discharge does not exist with a gun of modern design. Modern designs are "drop safe".

I have been handling guns for over 50 years with no negligent discharges. Not. A. Single. One. I think that is a pretty good safety record.

 
47. Consider yourself fortunate
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

Let me tell you a little story from when I was about 8 or 9. It was the middle of the night and some guy comes banging on the door asking to use the phone, this is long before everyone had a cellphone. My Dad said he wouldn't let him in but said if he needed help he could call the police to assist him. The guy then starts banging HARD on the door and demanding my dad let him in. My dad told my Mom to call the police and to lock me, my little brother, and herself in their bedroom up stairs. I never will forget seeing my dad with his .357 in the hallway in a ready position aiming at the door. My Dad then yells at the guy that the police are on the way. This apparently pissed the guy off because he starts hitting and kicking the door so hard it started to break and damn near came off the hinges. I never will forget what my Dad yelled at the guy next, "listen you son of a bitch, I'm armed and the moment that door comes down I will kill you". That apparently got the guy's attention because I heard the guy sprinting off our porch. The police caught the guy a few blocks from our house. The next day my Dad sat me down and had a talk with me. He told me that my Mom wasn't comfortable with guns and my brother was still too little. If something like that ever happened again and if something should happen to him, I was to grab my .20ga out of his gun closet and shoot anyone who kicks down the bedroom door.

 
83. Unexpected danger doesn't happen where you think it will
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

It's also funny how "flashbulb" memories work. I can picture it vividly to this day, my brother doesn't even remember it. After my father's funeral I brought it up and my mother couldn't believe I remember it so well given that it was about 20 years ago. She also had no idea what my father had told me the day after.

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
127. Ditto
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:24 PM
Sep 2012

Think about those people in the movie theater in Colorado...now think how many more would have died if every 3rd person was a gun toting hero...*shudders*

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
128. depends
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:29 PM
Sep 2012

most would be gagging on the tear gas. That said, Holmes was in front and everyone would be able to tell who is who.

Response to 1GirlieGirl (Reply #129)

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
131. it is one thing for people who know what they are talking about
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:46 PM
Sep 2012

to try to predict what could have happen, given the many possible variables, and other to assume an outcome based on ideology without actually knowing anything about the subject in general or specific facts about the case. Since the "bad guy" would be obvious, I doubt there would be a case of mistaken identity. Since many were incapacitated by tear gas, more guns would not make a difference either way.

VT would be easier, there would be less death.

petronius

(26,613 posts)
134. None of those links have anything to support your guess that more guns in the theater
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:16 PM
Sep 2012

in Aurora would have meant more deaths (i.e., your post #127)...

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
135. i.e. more guns = more deaths
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:20 PM
Sep 2012

I don't know how to have a discussion with someone who can look at statistics and reply with...a non-reply. My statement, backed up by several sources, is obviously correct. Do whatever you want with that.

petronius

(26,613 posts)
137. Your links had to do with the prevalence of firearms within a general population
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:25 PM
Sep 2012

Your hypothesis in #127 had to do with the number of guns present in a room during a specific event. The two are not related; i.e., the statistics provide no support for your WAG...

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
136. we are talking about one specific case
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:25 PM
Sep 2012

and it is not based on facts. I meant no insult, but your analysis was based on opinion. Blog posts using advocacy groups, Brady Campaign or the NRA, as sources can be best described as propaganda. The WP blog post would take a lot longer, but the chart after Myth five, is misleading. You probably think that Wyoming has more gun violence than NY. It doesn't. The word "injury" includes accidents and suicides. Rural areas have higher suicide rates than urban areas. That is equally true in Canada, Australia, UK, and every place in the world. Yes, rural Canadians, Australians, and Brits own guns more than their urban counterparts. It is equally true in Japan and South Korea, where gun ownership, or lack of, is the same.
Hemenway, yeah. The word echo chamber comes to mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Foundation

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
73. +1000
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

Those who carry think individual rights trump all else. Doesn't always work too well, especially when exercising those rights infringes on the safety of others.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. I carried my kimber pepper blaster and knife to my sons football
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

Game....then put my LCP on after getting off school grounds.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
11. I don't carry, but I didn't get shot either.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:22 PM
Sep 2012

If I have to carry, I will. But since I'm too cheap to buy another gun, I need a good reason to wag a 1911 around. Hell, I don't even like carrying a wallet.

 

trouble.smith

(374 posts)
13. I can beat that. I carried a gun today while purchsing another gun that I will soon carry
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:46 PM
Sep 2012

Even better, I purchased my new Glock 30 from an Ohio deputy sheriff who was also armed. And nobody was hurt despite all of this. God bless America.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
24. When we went to the range I carried my SR on my right and my LCP on my left hip.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:28 PM
Sep 2012
I wish I'd had time and cash to buy today.
 
18. Pfffttt
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:05 PM
Sep 2012

If we all did this there would be around 30 threads a day about it

I carry a Glock 36.... They call them flying ashtrays for a reason

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
21. I have ben known to carry a variety of CHL firearms.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:51 PM
Sep 2012

SIG 220

Colt 1911a1

Webley revolver 45acp

1860 Army C&B revolver, 4"bbl, 44caliber

All will work

 
36. Hillbilly you say...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:25 AM
Sep 2012

*Looks down at 511 tactical pro cargo pants and a button up flannel cover shirt* Ok maybe a little hillbilly

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
108. HEY!!!! I resemble that remark!!!!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:05 PM
Sep 2012

LOL, and I do carry a Glock 36 in .45, almost DAILY!

Actually, just got home from Vacation, Noticed that they had a indoor gun range near our ocean front condo, so I decided to go "plinking" I had not fired my CCW firearm in a long while, and it was time to "brush up" on needed skills.... Good thing too! The gun functioned flawlessly, but my trigger skills had slipped badly. This target is from the first 50 rnds on target at about 30 feet. At least I managed to make solid hits with ALL rounds.


EDIT, This was not slow aimed fire, but combat firing, all 50 rounds where expended within a couple of minutes, of actual shooting only stoppages being to reload my three spare magazines..

I purchased and fired another 200 rounds, getting my "trigger finger" back up to spec, and pulled my groups back to the center. But my android phone was dead by this point, so no pics. My 15 year old daughter also got to send about 150 rounds down range with my .45! So it was a very good day for shooting!! Apparently, we civilians can easily out shoot New York City cops.

Not to mention, that day, after I reloaded my pistol back up with good self defense ammunition (Remington Golden Sabers), we as a family went to a large amusement park, ate at a nice restaurant. And absolutely NO ONE was injured in anyway. Over the past week we have been MANY MANY places, and all the while, legally armed.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
22. over 250 rounds without an incident also...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:08 PM
Sep 2012

We just arrive home after a hour or so of shooting the 22's 38 and 380.


Kids love shooting the MKII and SR22.

My son can shoot the SR almost as well as I do.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
38. proud of my son as well . . . and my daughter
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:14 AM
Sep 2012

neither owns a gun . . . neither feels "naked" when leaving the house without one . . .

yep . . . pretty proud of them

ileus

(15,396 posts)
39. My son turns 8 tomorrow
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:25 AM
Sep 2012

he's a pretty amazing shot with the long gun and darned good with the pistol. Of course he's been running around shooting BB guns for a few years now so he has a little better understanding of open sights.

My 10yo daughter on the other hand just started showing real interest in target shooting. She needs much more practice but has little interest in "training" for her it's all about the fun of just shooting. She doesn't have "time" to worry about groups. LOL

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
43. my son and daughter are older than yours - adults - educated - employed - hard workers
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:30 AM
Sep 2012

got through their years without a gun . .

proud of 'em

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
45. Sounds like his children will be that much further ahead than yours...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:13 AM
Sep 2012

...when they reach that point.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
48. very possible - but a lot can be said for being brought up in an environment absent of paranoia
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
53. has nothing to do with paranoia
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:38 PM
Sep 2012

I went shooting as a kid, had all kinds of guns in the house. I first learned how to shoot with a gun my brother bought in Germany. Never locked the doors at night.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
69. So yours are paranoid of gun owners and inanimate objects?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
Sep 2012

A lot can be said, but not by you.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
74. not paranoid of gun owners and inanimate objects at all . . . .
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

we can also leave our house without feeling the need for a weapon.

Oneka

(653 posts)
26. I carried today as well.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sep 2012

I chose a Glock 26, 9 mm, in a Don Hume IWB holster at 3:00, it conceals very well there. I also carry an extra magazine but my mags only have a capacity of 10, i only use 9 of that. I opted for federal hydrashok ammo. I took my wife and daughter to a park in Sandstone Mn, we hiked about 5 miles, got some pictures of a waterfall on the Kettle river, where no one was hurt. We stopped off at an A&W on our way home and had root beer floats, and OMG,, no one was hurt.

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
27. I didn't carry a lethal weapon today! And no one was hurt!!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:52 PM
Sep 2012

Didn't carry one yesterday either! Won't carry one tomorrow too!! In fact, never owned one!!! And no one's ever been hurt!!!!!!!!!!

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
28. You own plenty of lethal weapons.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:09 PM
Sep 2012

You merely don't think of them as weapons, and aren't trained in their employment as such.

But sure, good for you...

Response to rDigital (Original post)

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
31. 4 days a week I carry open and concealed
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:09 PM
Sep 2012

My primary weapon is a Glock 21 .45 cal. semi auto.


My secondary or backup weapon is a S&W .38 cal. revolver in an ankle holster.


My patrol car is outfitted with a Remington 870 12 ga. shotgun.


In the trunk of my car is my personal Colt AR-15


When I'm off duty, I don't carry at all.

 
37. Why?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:28 AM
Sep 2012
When I'm off duty, I don't carry at all.


That seems to be the norm with LEOs. I remember reading a survey a while back that said only 20% of LEOs carry off duty. Never understood why they wouldn't.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
46. Some departments require it, from most it is optional
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

Old school approach was that as an LEO you had a duty to intervene, even off duty, and that is why you carried.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
55. Our Dept. makes it optional
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

my reasoning is that I have to put up with the shit 4 days a week, 10 hours a day, my days off are my time to spend with the wife and kids and grand kids. When I'm not on the job, I'm just another Joe Citizen.

petronius

(26,613 posts)
34. That's cool! I'm very glad that you were able to make the choice that is best for you
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:02 AM
Sep 2012

in this regard (assuming that you live in a state which respects your right to self determination on this topic), and that your day was smooth and incident free. Long may it continue!

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
52. Why are you doing this? Intentional annoyance? Desperate for attention?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:32 PM
Sep 2012

I am fully supportive of concealed carry, but this is effing stupid.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
56. I carried the first part of today, now it's locked in the handgun safe
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:50 PM
Sep 2012

I pulled out the 642 to clean after lunch.

Later on I'll clean the MKII, LCP, and SR22.



sir pball

(4,766 posts)
57. I don't carry, I'm not allowed to.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:50 PM
Sep 2012

Not that I'm disqualified, I've had licenses in three states, just that I'm not rich or famous enough to get one here in NYC.

Never felt "naked" or vulnerable either - while I do prefer to have the best tool for the job available when possible, just because I'm not allowed doesn't mean I consider myself defenseless by any means. I still have the most effective self-defense tool there is, situational awareness. My friends, some of whom live in the rattier parts of Brooklyn, are always saying things like "Stop looking around like that. You look like a tourist, you'll get mugged!" because my head is always on a swivel...not that I'm compulsively checking-six and analyzing everything in terms of potential threats/attacks/ambushes, but I am always taking in my surrounding environment and being simply AWARE of what's happening.

It's very much the same mindset when I'm walking through the woods hunting deer; if I haven't seen anything that I've identified as a target or threat, I'm not in any kind of "engagement" mode. Just conscious of everything that's going on; if I perceive something that needs an elevation of my mental state only then do I start to think "OK, this is a situation, time to do something." Mind you, the potential stimuli that will trigger an escalation are NOT the same when hunting vs. an SD situation; I am quite clearly NOT in the mentality of "hunting teh baddiez" by any means. It's a much higher and more affirmative bar, even if something does get my attention I'm going to try and passively avoid it before anything else.

All that, and I always have a pen or at least my keys on me; a few years of martial arts training makes both of those quite useful should the need arise.

To directly address the OP, when I do carry the only people who have ever known it are the ones who saw me put on the weapon; society as a whole was entirely unaffected because society as a whole was entirely unaware.

Liberal Gramma

(1,471 posts)
60. Has there ever been a single instance....
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

of a person in favor of gun rights convincing a gun-control believer of the rightness of the choice? Or vice-versa? This is like the abortion debate--there is no middle ground, and no one ever changes sides. Perhaps it's best for us to agree to disagree?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,483 posts)
61. I would say yes
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:10 PM
Sep 2012

Dr. Arthur Kellerman, stated: "If you’ve got to resist, you’re chances of being hurt are less the more lethal your weapon. If that were my wife, would I want her to have a .38 Special in her hand? Yeah." (Health Magazine, March/April 1994)

Jill Fieldstein, CBS producer, Street Stories: Women and Guns: "As a card-carrying member of the liberal media, producing this piece was an eye opening experience. I have to admit that I saw guns as inherently evil, violence begets violence, and so on. I have learned, however, that in trained hands, just the presence of a gun can be a real "man stopper." I am sorry that women have had to resort to this, but wishing it wasn't so won’t make it any safer out there." 29 April 1993.

Liberal Gramma

(1,471 posts)
63. All I hope for
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:24 PM
Sep 2012

is tolerance of one another's views. You will never convince me that I should carry a gun; I will never convince you that you shouldn't. Under the law, we each have the right to choose, and should respect one another's choice.

Liberal Gramma

(1,471 posts)
66. Valid point
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:49 PM
Sep 2012

I do favor control of assault weapons. Does that compromise your choice? I also feel that gun ownership entails certain responsibilities, such as learning to use one properly, keeping them away from small children, and using the best security measures possible to see that they don't fall into the wrong hands through theft or carelessness.

 
70. Well
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:00 PM
Sep 2012
I do favor control of assault weapons. Does that compromise your choice?


Yes and I'm all for people taking gun classes, but I don't believe in putting education requirements on constitutional rights or mandating certain storage methods.

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
205. "I do favor control of assault weapons."
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:00 PM
Oct 2012

I'm wondering if you even know what an "assault weapon" is. A lot of Dems think that an "assault weapon" is fully automatic. (sprays bullets, as it were) CNN even misrepresented them as fully automatic. Are you aware that the only differences between "acceptable" rifles and "assault weapons" are cosmetic rather than functional?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,483 posts)
65. I don't carry.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:44 PM
Sep 2012

I believe in the freedom to do so. I don't own a handgun. Respect is always the best option. thanks

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
121. The difference is that pro-gunners rarely try to talk YOU into carrying something
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:18 PM
Sep 2012

you fear and/or abhor. You don't want a gun? No problem. You're free to choose.

However, anti-gunners LOVE to tell me that I shouldn't carry an inanimate object. They tell me I'm insane, I'm anti-social, I'm compensating, I'm a right-wing neanderthal, etc.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
75. Yes, but it is rather rare here.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:48 PM
Sep 2012

Most of the people who come here are already firmly committed to their side. But there have been rare posters who have changed. I have seen two who changed from anti to pro-RKBA. They were a long time ago when I was an occasional lurker.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
62. I am all for the 2nd Amendment, but some, like the OP seem a bit over the top
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:22 PM
Sep 2012

Is this your Sunday sermon to DU? Do you feel empowered now? Your post reminds me of another character that obsessed over a thing....

ileus

(15,396 posts)
68. I don't know a day in the life of your common carrier is interesting.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
Sep 2012

When info is added like what caliber and type of firearm it only makes the post more interesting.


I don't really see where LOR movies tie into the OP at all.

hlthe2b

(102,516 posts)
80. Heavens.'better take out a billboard. No, you need to hire the Goodyear Blimp! 24/7! Shout the news
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:57 PM
Sep 2012

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
81. Fascinating. I saw a plane today and it didn't crash. I was amazed.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:00 PM
Sep 2012

Nevertheless, I'm gonna stick to riding my bicycle. It's clean, economical and safe, and it folds. So, in an emergency, if and when I'm attacked by mysterious thugs, I can fold it up and hurl it at them with all my might, while standing my ground. Or, on second thoughts, if I see them coming, I might just take off in the opposite direction.

Keep us updated. Try not to miss a day, as we might start to worry.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
82. I don't own a gun, I am alive and kicking. And I went swimming too
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

I went swimming today. Glad I don't own one, because that might have weighed me down and I would have drowned. Guns can cause drowning.

and the gunnies who swim, better becareful, because what happens if there is the boogie man in the water, and their gun is on shore, shit, did they even think about that
(cue in the Jaws theme)

Guns are like prisons. They are like compulsions and obsessions.

And the chances of someone being attacked by someone with a gun are greater than being hit by lightning I bet.
(the nra folk will of course have a ready to go post on that as the professionals always do.)

It's Oct. 31
there is a stranger at the door
wearing a mask to hide their identity
bang
another one bites the dust
oops, just a kid on Halloween dressed like a ghost, now he is one.

Anyone know the actuary stats on people losing years to their life just by worrying about something that never will happen to them from now til they are no longer here?
What does that do to ones blood pressure?

YIKES! EEK! EGAD!

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
84. Guns don't kill people...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

But bullets do. Restrict the sale of ammo and ammunition containers. The 2nd says nothing about ammo or the functionality of the "arm" for that matter. Of course the the RKBA group will say it is implied the but it is not. This way RKBA group can keep and bear all the "arms" they want even though most in that group are not now and probably never have been part of a "well regulated militia" which from a strict constructionist view means no one outside of the Military of LE has a right to bear an "arm"....

petronius

(26,613 posts)
91. Herrington v. United States (2010)
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012
In neither Heller nor McDonald did the Supreme Court directly address restrictions on the possession of ammunition per se. ( The District's requirement that lawfully-maintained firearms be kept unloaded was not challenged in Heller.) Nonetheless, from the Court's reasoning, it logically follows that the right to keep and bear arms extends to the possession of handgun ammunition in the home; ?for if such possession could be banned (and not simply regulated), that would make it “impossible for citizens to use [their handguns] for the core lawful purpose of self-defense.”?By the same token, given the obvious connection between handgun ammunition and the right protected by the Second Amendment, we are hard-pressed to see how a flat ban on the possession of such ammunition in the home could survive heightened scrutiny of any kind. We therefore conclude that the Second Amendment guarantees a right to possess ammunition in the home that is coextensive with the right to possess a usable handgun there.?The government has not taken issue with that conclusion.


http://caselaw.findlaw.com/dc-court-of-appeals/1543809.html

The only reason a court hasn't ruled specifically on the 'ammo included in arms' before now is, I imagine, because the answer is in fact blisteringly obvious. To the extent that RKBA is protected, the necessary accoutrements to that right are also protected...
 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
92. And you have no right to access to ink or electrons....
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

Obviously, you don't have a strict constructionist view of the First Amendment....

petronius

(26,613 posts)
94. I have no doubt that the 1A case regarding a tax on newspaper ink would serve
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:37 PM
Sep 2012

as a precedent in any attempt to eliminate 2A through the backdoor of taxing or oppressively regulating ammunition...

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=460&invol=575

ileus

(15,396 posts)
85. I'm gonna drop my 380 in my pocket shortly then go teach the youth group.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:21 PM
Sep 2012

at the church...


I'll have to get back and confirm if nothing happened or not.

I just stripped it and gave it a good cleaning a few hours ago after shooting it yesterday. I reassembled it and hit the snap cap a few times and then dropped the hammer on an empty just to make sure nothing went wrong.

Safety first after all.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
99. Yeah LCP condition one.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:28 PM
Sep 2012


made it back fine and dandy....it's no back in the pistol safe. I'll get it out in the morning for my daily commute.

Oneka

(653 posts)
100. Another day another carry.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:34 PM
Sep 2012

Today i chose a Springfield Armory XD-40 sub compact, in a Don Hume IWB holster, again i chose Federal Hydrashok ammo.
My ,daughter , wife , and i went to Cambridge City Park, and had a nice 2.5 mile hike down along the banks of the Rum River, and no one was hurt. My daughter loves riding around in one of these.
On our way home we stopped off at Menards, and checked out prices on some lumber we need for a raised garden project, and OMG
you guessed it, no one was hurt.
I am happy to report that in MN , i can still exercise my, constitutionally protected, individual right without anyone getting hurt.
I am glad i have the choice.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
106. Thank you for caring about society and your family.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:59 PM
Sep 2012

Keep up the good work...hopefully you'll never need your XD except to dispatch some hateful targets.

Oneka

(653 posts)
109. You're welcome
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:26 PM
Sep 2012

Society, and my family, have given me much more than i could ever repay, but i do what i can, to protect both.

madville

(7,413 posts)
101. Love my Kahr CW9, perfect size for IWB for me
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:47 PM
Sep 2012

I mainly carried a S&W 637 .38 for years but have semi-retired it in favor of the CW9. The 637 is still my ankle holster gun though, mainly when I want to carry a back up like when I was working in some rough areas of Miami the last few weeks.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
105. 09/16/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

Same firearm (G17), different holster (Galco OWB with security snap). Drove through Edinboro and Erie, PA. Took some pictures, enjoyed my Sunday.

There was only one tactical error: We stopped for some wild Chinese buffet on Peach st. However, we made up for it at Starbucks and played Chess on the iPad and drew an octopus.

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-The Most exciting thing I saw today... was a fire-hydrant : |

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
115. made it through the whole day without a crutch . . . er, a gun . . . without a single incident
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:02 AM
Sep 2012

safe, secure, not a feeling of fear the whole day.

And to add to this wonderful feeling, my wife, daughter, and son did the same.

No incidents. No fear. No guns.

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
126. Me too! I love my non-paranoid world!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:19 PM
Sep 2012

I'm 46 and never owned a shooter. My daughter is in the Navy so she had to learn to shoot, but doesn't like guns. She's lived her entire life without fear or paranoia. I'm so proud of her, and so very happy that I never created an environment where she felt that there was ever a reason to carry a gun around.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
145. same with my 2 children, both now adults
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:23 AM
Sep 2012

I am proud they have not bought into the gunners world, that they can get through life perfectly fine without totin' ever day.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
147. what if
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:45 AM
Sep 2012

they were target shooters but never bothered to get CCWs? Would you be less proud of a kid who won the Olympic gold medal in biathlon than swimming?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
160. I'm proud of both of my kids for a number of reasons
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 09:15 PM
Sep 2012

their decisions on guns are irrelevant to me.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
163. It is a cultural difference having nothing to do with maturity.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 09:44 PM
Sep 2012

but accepting a culture or sub culture on its own terms, and hopefully understand it, is a sign of open mindedness, tolerance, and true liberalism.
Your view of the "gun culture" (if it is a distinctive but diverse sub culture, but that is different conversation) sounds very much like the "square" or "silent majority" culture viewed the "hippies".

To say Olympic or International Shooting Sports Federation competitors are more or less mature based on their chosen sports is so absurd that I have to question your understanding of the meaning of the word.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
170. question whatever you like . . . but please do not speak for me
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:55 AM
Sep 2012

I understand the word and am comfortable with my interpretation.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
110. Today, 9-16 Roadtrip home from beach vacation
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:42 PM
Sep 2012

Wearing a set of khaki shorts, and a very light t-shirt.

Carrying my Glock 36 .45 in my right front pocket, in a pocket holster stashed away behind my wallet, with two spare magazines in my left front pocket. Loaded with Remington Golden Saber ammunition.

Left the condo in Myrtle Beach South Carolina at 11AM, drove to Conway South Carolina had a wonderful brunch. drove on to near Marion South Carolina, refueled and hit a tourist trap spot for trinkets and other assorted junk. Drove on up US 501, till it ran into SC 38, followed it, all the way to the North Carolina State Line, where we got on US74 for a few miles over to Rockingham North Carolina, where we hit a down poor. Headed up US 221, Stopped at Candor, North Carolina, for a bathroom break and leg stretching. Decided to take a different route home, went up US 221 and above Asheboro North Carolina, got on US 311 over through High Point and on to Winston-Salem North Carolina, than up US 52 to Mt Airy North Carolina (Mayberry) for shopping went to Burks, Staples, Tractor Supply Co, and a few other stores, than to for supper at a Chinese restaurant, than on home!

ileus

(15,396 posts)
117. are those your hands in the OP pic?
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:32 AM
Sep 2012

You said it was a pic of your g17...not that it was you shooting.

I've kinda wondered since you posted this thread.


 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
118. I doubt anyone will take gun advice from someone...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:46 AM
Sep 2012

who abuses electrons with such egregious grammar.

Have a nice day.

chibajoe

(197 posts)
120. I carried a gun all day yesterday, and even met someone else who carried a gun.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:45 PM
Sep 2012

She carried a G26, and I carry a P12. When asked why I felt the need to carry such a large caliber, I confided to her that I was compensating for a small penis. She was quite amused.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
133. LCP and M&P 9c....no incidents.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:05 PM
Sep 2012

Put on the 9c for my sons birthday party.

Nice this time of year for carrying a larger safety devise.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
138. 9-17 I carried all day, again and as usual...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:28 PM
Sep 2012

Headed out around noon time in the Mustang GT it had been sitting for a couple of weeks and needed to "stretch", ran to the optometrists office to pick up my contact lenses, than drove over to CVS to pick up a new razor, and some contact lens supplies. Than on to a local restaurant for a light lunch. Got home about 5, and got ready for some new furniture that was being delivered! Got it all squared away. played fetch with the chocolate lab we have, and hang with my kids until bath time.

Than down at the computer desk, where I check my mail messages, and here I am....

Glock 36 still on me, still completely hidden....and absolutely nothing out of the ordinary has happened all day long.

Tomorrow, if the rain lets up, I will take my modified Thunderbird Turbo Coupe out for a spin and do my errands in it! It too has sit for several weeks, and it could use a "stretch".

And yes, the Glock will be right their right along with me.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
146. Oneshooter, you have me at a disadvantage...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:32 AM
Sep 2012

I have no idea what a Ferret is, or why it would need a engine..

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
149. A Ferret is a British built all terrain vehicle.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012


This is what mine will look like when finished. Bought it with a blown engine, and the turret dismounted. Got a good price on it.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
169. Very VERY nice!!! LOL it don't take "clips" or "magazines"
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:46 AM
Sep 2012

The gun control advocates will have a hard time getting their heads around "Belt"!! LOL!!!

Very nice "ferret" too!! Now that is a REAL Mil-surp!!!

Keep us posted!

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
141. 9/17/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:22 PM
Sep 2012

I took another long distance trip today. I was lawfully armed with my partner's Ruger LCP, chambered in .380 ACP. It sits safely in my front let pocket in a Galco in-pocket holster.

We visited Prism, the artist superstore, and bought some pens to draw more cats with. Black, oriental blue and dark grey. Everything there is on sale this week. Then it was off to Hot Heads Burritos, where we enjoyed our fiesta.

My partner wanted to learn more about their camera, a Nikon D series DSLR. I instructed on the use of af-c vs af-s, when to use shutter priority, using DoF to your artistic advantage and other fun things like the exposure triangle.

We're topping the night off with submarine sandwiches and Coke Zeros at a local sandwich shop. All the while i am lawfully armed and having a fun, devoid of fear, carefree Happy Monday.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
153. 9/18/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:24 PM
Sep 2012

Just another normal carefree day. Our carry piece of choice was once again the light and versatile Ruger LCP in .380 tucked safely away in a pocket holster.

Not much of interest today. I didn't draw any cats or take any pictures so far. Just another day at the office.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
156. 9/19/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:21 PM
Sep 2012

Just another day in paradise, here in Ohio... and another work day. It's an LCP .380 kind of day, I'll have to let everyone know later on if it jumps out of the pocket holster and starts killing people.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
161. Another successful day of keeping me and my family protected.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 09:27 PM
Sep 2012

Of course my duty still hasn't wrapped up I have until 7:15 in the morning. Then I go back to assuring my safety, and leave the childrens safety to my wife and her EDC. Then we rely on the county deputy at their school.

Security Never Sleeps...

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
164. I carried seven lethal weapons today (9/20) and no one was hurt by them.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:01 PM
Sep 2012

I also operated another. As a side note, five of them are demonstrably more lethal than the dreaded "assault weapons", yet the Commonwealth of Massachusetts inexplicably has no problem
with my carriage of them...

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
171. 9/20/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:22 PM
Sep 2012

Just another workday. My Ruger LCP in its rightful place, my left pocket. Nothing too exciting going on today. It didn't jump out an indiscriminately fire on other people yesterday... so I'm hoping today will prove to be the same kind of non-event.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
172. 9/21/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sep 2012

This is starting to get a little boring isn't it? Not much action going on for the armed citizen here. Well.... get used to it. SD carry is not about looking for trouble. It's about living your life and having a good time, while simultaneously retaining the ability and means to protect said life.

Today is a G17 day. Short day at the office. No one has been hurt so far. I may have to check in again later to make sure. You never know this brick of murder plastic may jump out of its holster and start killing people any second now.

I'm enjoying this sooooo much that I think I'm going to make a blog out of it as well. Then I will flog the blog right here in the Gungeon as others have been allowed to do. : )

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
173. You better wrap that death spewing killing machine
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:37 PM
Sep 2012

in tin foil so it's mind control rays won't turn you into a homicidal maniac when you're not looking.

Oneka

(653 posts)
174. 09-20 and 21
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sep 2012

Yawn,,,,,same deal as all most every other day. the last couple of days i carried a Glock 19 though. i really like to mix it up with what i carry , some based on what clothes i wear,like for instance, i usually don't carry the g19 without a jacket on. In the summer months i can get away with concealing with an IWB holster and wearing jeans, and a t-shirt, only if i carry a smaller frame pistol. After my next purchase

Which will be one of these, i think i will stick to just one most of the time. This gun may be the best CC pistol on the market today, in terms of size/vs caliber. It only holds 5 in a full magazine, but looking at DGU's by CCW holders, they rarely use more than 3, and i usually carry an extra magazine on me anyway.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
177. I really appreciate that you are including pictures of your EDC. It adds a touch of reality to the
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:07 AM
Sep 2012

subject at hand. Keep up the....yawn.... good work.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
175. 6 days without incident this week.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:59 PM
Sep 2012

Two different carry firearms, and a kimber pepper blaster.

It's been a good week.



I also built a holster for my SR22.


 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
178. 9/22/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012
http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/09222012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

It looks like we are going on a family road trip out of state. Just like every other day, I’ll be packing my Glock 9mm pistol. It’s big, but believe it or not it conceals well. I’ll also be carrying a back up magazine or two, because on a semi-auto pistol the component most likely to fail is the magazine. The extra capacity is not needed, but it’s another comfort regardless.

Hopefully, I’ll have some pictures to post later. Happy Saturday : )
 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
179. 09/23/2012: I carried a gun yesterday and no one was hurt by it.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:38 AM
Sep 2012

Actually, I had 2 firearms: the G17 and the Ruger LCP. My partner and I went on a road trip to Pittsburgh. We drove around the city, got lost a couple of times, stayed in a shady motel and visited the zoo. We were even pulled over by the transit police when we accidentally entered the port authority area. It was a good encounter, and we were given directions to our destination by Officer Friendly.

I'll be posting pictures from the zoo in the photography group. : )

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
180. 09/24/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

Back to work for another glorious Monday. We will be carrying the Ruger LCP in .380-ACP today. It's looking to be a cool and brisk day. It's been a good day at the office so far. It's going to be a good night. I'll have to check back and make sure that my firearm didn't jump out of the holster and "go off" accidentally.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
181. 09/25/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:15 PM
Sep 2012

Yet another enjoyable day. My Ruger LCP is in my pocket, but only occupies the back of my mind. I'm enjoying life and having a good day. I may take some more photographs today or I might just draw some cats.

I'll have to check back later to make sure that my gun didn't jump out of it's holster and shoot everything.

Cross-Posted At my blog:
http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/09/25/09252012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
182. 09/26/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:25 PM
Sep 2012

Just like every other day I've been carrying my Ruger LCP. It's not all that exciting after 5 years, but I'm just writing to show just how normal your life is when you carry a firearm.

Happy Thursday.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
183. I carry daily, will be carrying tonight when I check out the families business
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:51 PM
Sep 2012

property. Always show up to check it out at night. But tonight I am going to be fixing some M/V lights that don't work.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
184. 09/27/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
Sep 2012

I carried a firearm for personal protection today, just like every other day. There is not much to it. I put it in the holster and then the holster goes in my pocket. Can you guess which pistol I'm carrying today?

See how boring this is? I've been doing this for over 7 years (i said 5 by mistake the other day, i forgot how old I was ) and have had no issues related to carrying a firearm.

It's been so boring that I almost forgot to make a post for today. Yawn : )

I did notice this disturbing bar on my way to work though. "NO GANG COLORS PERMITTED" Yikes!



Cross posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/09272011-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
185. 09/28/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:21 AM
Sep 2012

I took another road trip today. Started my weekend early. Took my partner and our cameras our for some autumn color photography.
As always, my trusty Glock 17 was on my hip and out of sight. It didn't impede my fun nor did it "go off" and injure innocents, it sat there boring as every but ready to run at a moments notice in my belt holster.

Happy Friday. This photo was my reward for the day.

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Cross Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/?p=22&preview=true

ileus

(15,396 posts)
186. Another 7 days of perfect carry.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:30 AM
Sep 2012

Not one issue of any type.


Remember safety first; refuse to be a victim.

Shitty Mitty

(138 posts)
187. But what about when you WEREN'T carrying the gun?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:34 AM
Sep 2012

You sure it didn't sneak out at night and shoot someone?

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
188. Those days are rare, but I also have to sleep. You are an intelligent
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:55 AM
Sep 2012

Observer. I need to cable lock my gun to the floor when I sleep to keep it from sneaking out at night and causing trouble. ; )

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
189. 09/29/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:03 AM
Sep 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a firearm for self-protection today. Since it's the weekend, I took another roadtrip to PA to take pictures. I'm not all that impressed with what I came up with, but it was still a fun day.

My firearm managed to stay in the holster another day and not harm anyone. Let's see how tomorrow goes.

Cross Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/09292012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

ileus

(15,396 posts)
190. I OC'd yesterday and even encountered a bear.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:12 AM
Sep 2012

Nice sized bear also....it come within 40 yards before my son scared it off.

Yesterday was youth day here in Va. Football in the morning (we won 20-0) for our first win this season on the last game of the season. LOL

I relied on the wife to carry her EDC so I didn't carry in the morning. Then in the evening it was time to take my son deer hunting, so I OC'd my SR22.


My daughter had a sleepover for the past two nights with a new friend so I've kept my EDC mostly out of sight and locked up.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
191. 09/30/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:20 PM
Sep 2012

The last day of September is rolling by. Not much of interest to see here, but like every other day I was carrying my trusy Glock 17 9mm. I'm not sure why, but I didn't even bother to bring any extra magazines with me today.

As always, today was uneventful. My firearm didn't jump out of it's holster and kill anyone nor did it just "go off". I just keep on keeping on. Sadly, no photographs for today. My camera hasn't left it's bag at all today. D7000 is being put to bed though as I have a D600 coming in the mail by Wednesday!

Happy Sunday!

Cross Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/01/09302012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
193. I carried concealed into both a bank and a Credit Union today.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

Nobody fainted, had a heart attack or the vapors because of it.

Ain't legal CC great!

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
194. 10/01/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Tue Oct 2, 2012, 02:53 AM - Edit history (1)

Just like every other day, I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by its. Today was brisk and cool, I carried my Ruger LCP.

It didn't jump out of its holster and kill anyone today. I'll check back in tomorrow to see if it does.

Cross posted @http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/10012011-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
195. 10/02/2012: I carried a gun today an no one was hurt by it.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a firearm today. Just like every other day, not a soul was hurt by it. Today, I carried my Sig P229 in .40 S&W. It's a little heavier than the others, but it is rock solid and has tritium night sights.

I'm a little taken aback by this newer gun, but it still hasn't jumped out of the holster and killed anyone. I'll have to check back in tomorrow to make sure.

Cross Posted @: http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/03/10022011-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-on-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
196. 10/03/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:54 AM
Oct 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a firearm for personal protection today and no one was hurt by it. Today I carried a Ruger LCP .380 ACP. It’s a tiny little thing and it really disappears into my pocket when it’s put into a leather pocket holster.

Like most days, today was uneventful, but I still had my firearm accessible to me at all times….and nothing bad happened today.

Cross Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/10032011-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
197. 10/04/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:39 AM
Oct 2012

Yet again. No one was hurt by my holstered firearm.

I'll have to check back in again tomorrow to make sure that this is still true.

Cross Posted @http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/10042012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
198. 10/05/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:03 AM
Oct 2012

Today was a Glock 17 day. I got out of work early and my partners little sister was there to spend time with us. We took her to the most evil place we could find….TACO BELL.

I carried my firearm all day and the most danger that we encountered was the fast food. I’ll have to keep an eye on this thing and make sure that it doesn’t jump out of the holster and start killing people. I may have to check back tomorrow to let you all know how the night went.

Cross posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/10052012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

ileus

(15,396 posts)
199. LCP while out, then my SR22 around the property....no incidents.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:04 PM
Oct 2012

not even a coyote to shoot at...

But on the plus side I did find Tula 308 at Wal-Mart today. 8.xx a box....so I picked up a couple of boxes.

Oneka

(653 posts)
200. 09-22, through today.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:39 PM
Oct 2012

I carried a variety of handguns around with me pretty much every where i went.
The shooting in MPLS, not far from where i work, in St. Anthony Mn, drove home for me, one of the many reasons i carry. I also have a position
where i am in the meeting when someone is let go at the place i work. I have sat in meetings like that, hundreds of times, during my career, it never gets easier. I hope my situation never mirrors, what happened in MPLS, but if it does, i will at least have a fighting chance to save myself, and the other managers around me.

On a brighter note, i got to go shooting today, i recently got a new scope for this gun, a DPMS LR4.

I went over to my friends house, who has his own range, and sighted in. I will be going deer hunting in Keya
Paha county Nebraska , near springview, in a week or so, and needed a gun with a scope. Huh,, i guess evil looking black guns can be used for stuff other than killing humans.


Oh yeah,, no one was hurt by my guns.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
201. 10/06/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:10 AM
Oct 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a firearm for personal protection today and no one was hurt by it.

I taught a small Ohio CCW refresher class for 3 people this morning at my usual range spot, free of charge because I want more people to be encouraged to carry lawfully and responsibly. I also let everyone shoot my Henry .22 and Colt Sp-1. Since it rained last night, we even shot some tracers at steel targets. Fun was had all around.

I do high speed photography of my shooters to help them analyze and correct their shooting techniques. Here's a pretty cool photo from that session today.
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Took a trip to my parents house and then also got a stuffed crust pepperoni pizza from the hut. It was a good day and no one or nothing was hurt by my GUNZ.

Also, I'm selling this S&W M67 .38 Special if you're in Ohio. $350
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GUNZ

Cross Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/10062012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
202. 10/07/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:03 AM
Oct 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. I carried my Glock 17 9mm, and since I wasn't in a rush, I brought 2 extra magazines with me for reliability concerns.

My partner and I took a trip to PA and hit up the local Chinese Buffet and got our fill. Then it was off to BB to see if they had a D800 we could look at. They didn't have any and that's OK because we don't buy big ticket items from there anyway.

My gun (GUNZ?) didn't jump out of it's holster and kill anyone today either. I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to make sure that it doesn't.

Cross Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/10072012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
203. 10/08/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:27 AM
Oct 2012

My Ruger LCP didn't jump out of its holster and kill anyone today either. I'll have to check back in tomorrow to make sure.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
207. 10/09/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 01:16 AM
Oct 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. The flavor of the day was the venerable Glock 17. It's a family favorite at my house.

I was carrying a large sum of cash today and being armed made me feel a bit better about it. I made a large deposit into my bank account for my new new camera... the Nikon D800. It'll be here Thursday.

My gun hasn't jumped out of the holster and killed anyone today. I'll have to check back again tomorrow to make sure that it doesn't.

Cross-Posted @http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/10092012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
208. 10/10/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:59 AM
Oct 2012

Just like every other day, I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.

I've been having such a good day. I carried my LCP .380 to the office and all was well. I'm very excited though, because tomorrow my D800 comes in the mail! I'll have to post some fancy pictures or something, but I just wanted to let everyone know how normal and uneventful life is when you carry a firearm for personal protection.

Cross-Posted @ http://icarriedaguntodayandnoonewashurtbyit.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/10102012-i-carried-a-gun-today-and-no-one-was-hurt-by-it/

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
209. 12/06/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:47 AM
Dec 2012

It's true. I did and I have since my last posting as well. Another uneventful day in the life of an armed DUer.

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
210. You must be an extremely strong person to resist the urgings of your evil
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
Dec 2012

gun to pull it out and shoot an innocent person.

The sad part is, your emotional strength is eclipsed by your moral bankruptcy. Guns are, after all, designed to kill. So the fact that you refuse to use yours for this purpose - and rather to use it for defensive purposes - demonstrates your willingness to ignore God's Law.

You should be ashamed. But of course, as a knuckle-dragging gun owner.....you are not.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
216. 12/7/12 I carried my death spewing penis extension today and no one got
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:23 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sun Dec 9, 2012, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)

hurt.

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
223. You too, sir/maam - should be ashamed.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:51 PM
Dec 2012

Not for the "no one got hurt" part, but for the "no one got laid" part.


Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
214. We are all very happy that you haven't hurt anyone yet.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 06:37 PM
Dec 2012

You say you have been carrying a gun around for seven years. That's around 25,000 days. At this point, do you think the odds are greater that you will be a victim of a crime, or the victim of an accident? Or that you might need the gun to actually hurt someone?

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
224. I think I understand your question better now. (and I'm on a desktop now rather than an iPhone.)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:47 PM
Dec 2012

However, I've also not has a single car accident in the same time frame. Should I cancel my car insurance?

I try to do everything that I can to be a safe driver. I brake early, wear my seat belt, my head is on a swivel and I generally just try to be aware of my surroundings.

As far as my personal protection goes, I try to do everything to keep myself from ever being in a position where I would even need a firearm for protection. I avoid the triangle of risk: risky activity, risky people & risky places.

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
225. OK. So given all that, why do you carry?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:20 PM
Dec 2012

I'm really not trying to be argumentative or intrusive, but you appear to be a well balanced individual, with a heightened awareness of your surroundings.
I am just curious as to what makes you so vulnerable that you feel the need to carry for personal protection.
Maybe you are female, which one poster suggested somewhere, but I got the impression you were male. I can understand why many would want to carry, especially females, those who have received threats, those with high risk jobs and those who are obvious targets for such crimes as robbery or kidnapping.
For me, making such a decision is always based on odds, as I see them.
Wearing a seatbelt, for example, makes a lot of sense when traveling on a regular highway. Odds are that eventually, if you cover enough miles, you will benefit from that seatbelt. However, on certain roads and under certain conditions, you may well be better off not wearing one.
I see carrying a gun is similar, yet opposite, to the seatbelt.

In your case, I would imagine the danger is more likely to come from an accident or mishap, rather than from an attack. I notice you let others handle your guns, which always contains certain risks.

I don't think the insurance analogy is valid, because insurance is about money and compensation. Doesn't help prevent anything. In fact, it probably has a negative impact overall. Those without insurance tend to drive more carefully.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
229. I carry because I care.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:23 PM
Dec 2012

I care about my new family. I care about my well being. To answer your gender inquiry, I am male and I love cats.


I don't feel vulnerable. I understand the risks of reality. I wish we could all get along perfectly, but there are predators among us. I'm not an alarmist, I'm just acknowleding reality. I personally know other people that have used their firearms to protect themselves from human predators outside of their homes as well as inside. I've had to use mine once, but thankfully didn't even have to raise it nor fire it. I don't leave my personal protection to the good will of others. Not to mention that LEOs have no duty to protect me, they are only responsible for enforcing laws. I know it's an old tired phrase, but it rings true: When seconds count the police are only minutes away.

I live in the middle of nowhere and the police response time is measured with a sun dial. There are coyotes, bears, meth labs, tweakers, drug dealers, rabid raccoons and other animals that are dangerous to humans. I still carried when I lived in the city too, every area has it's risks. Once the other guy decides you are a target, what you think doesn't matter all that much.

I am a firearms instructor. I take precautions to prevent injury to myself and others. Ted Strickland, former Ohio Governor, has shot under my supervision (he really didn't need it, he's quite safe). The others that handle my firearms are under strict supervision. They are under the same supervision handling their own firearms in my presence as well. I've trained close to 100 people so far over the last 2 years. It's a 12 hour class in Ohio. All without incident.

Here's my brother James, under my supervision, shooting a sub machinegun without incident.



Here's Gov. Strickland, under my supervision, Shooting a .45 without incident:
 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
222. That's also another thing you lack.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:17 PM
Dec 2012

Add that to your list. Probably somewhere next to your credibility and understanding of the topic at hand.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
226. I had a rifle when I was a kid. No one got shot, but it did make my shoulder sore. ;)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:30 PM
Dec 2012
the first human right: the right of self-defense


What about the right to poop and pee?

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
228. In the event ...
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:48 PM
Dec 2012

In the event that you shoot yourself, have you arranged for someone to check-in and notify us?

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