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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:51 PM Sep 2012

Texas should not honor Virginia’s online gun permits

In Texas, if you want to get a license to carry a concealed handgun, you can.

If you take a 10-hour course with a qualified instructor that includes an hour of range time. If you absorb state laws on when and where you may carry. If you learn about the safe handling of a weapon, especially around children. If you score a 70 on a 50-question written test and a 70 on a 50-shot test from three distances.

Do all this, pass a federal background check, and in the eyes of Texas, you may carry legally in our state. This newspaper generally supports concealed carry, and one reason is that Texas law makes sure an applicant understands the rights and responsibilities that come with it.

What no Texan should want is to have someone around who is armed but has no clear concept of Texas law or how to handle a gun. And that’s what could happen more often if Texans sign up for nonresident permits from Virginia, which allows permitting entirely online.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20120921-editorial-texas-should-not-honor-virginias-online-gun-permits.ece
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Texas should not honor Virginia’s online gun permits (Original Post) SecularMotion Sep 2012 OP
Crap...I didn't get to do it online. ileus Sep 2012 #1
Think, OP: Vermont...(your eyes are getting heavy) Ver-moonntt...(your getting sleepy)...nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #2
So much ignorance... Clames Sep 2012 #3
I don't trust online Virgins either. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #4
Who the hell wants a virgin? PavePusher Sep 2012 #5
Please show where this has actually caused any problems in Texas. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #6
Is it easy enough for a Texan who fails safeinOhio Sep 2012 #17
I don't know. I don't trust Dallas Morning News on guns. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #18
So this means that you agree with the Texas program for issuing CHL's? oneshooter Sep 2012 #7
By your lack of an answer I will concider that a "yes". oneshooter Sep 2012 #14
PA doesn't require any training at all. $20 and you too can carry in Pennsylvania. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #8
The problem with that is that PA and OH can not have reciprocity because of PA's minimal standards trouble.smith Sep 2012 #10
The 10-12 hour class with range time is what I consider "reasonable firearms legislation" trouble.smith Sep 2012 #9
I travel to Ohio for work.. virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #11
Glad to hear you approve of my Texas Concealed Handgun permit. rl6214 Sep 2012 #12
Texas shouldn't honor Virginia driver's licenses or marriage licenses, either! X_Digger Sep 2012 #13
Since Virginia honors my Texas CHL, it just seems unneighborly S_B_Jackson Sep 2012 #15
Virginia prides itself in being progressive... ileus Sep 2012 #16
 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
3. So much ignorance...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:33 PM
Sep 2012

...and so little battery life left on my laptop so I'll do my best for now.


This not only increases gun danger for everyone, it cuts the legs from under Texas law.


Bullshit and bullshit. Anybody who actually reads the laws (obvious the author of the article and the OP didn't) knows that they are beholden to the laws of whatever state they are carrying in regardless of where their permit came from.

Considering Texas honors permits from nearly 30 other states and some where it is just as easy to get a non-resident permit it would be hypocritical for Texas just to single out Virginia. Much pearl clutching over nothing it seems.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
6. Please show where this has actually caused any problems in Texas.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)

What you posted was an anti-gun opinion piece. It contained no statistics to prove that a problem existed. It only proved that an online, out-of-state, VA permit is easy to get.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
18. I don't know. I don't trust Dallas Morning News on guns.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 11:29 AM
Sep 2012

They were against the CHL program before it became law. Their editorial position is consistently for greater gun control, never for relaxing any gun laws.

 

trouble.smith

(374 posts)
10. The problem with that is that PA and OH can not have reciprocity because of PA's minimal standards
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:15 AM
Sep 2012

Of course I can still get an out of state permit for PA and travel about in your state with a CCW but the same courtesy isn't extended to PA residents by the Ohio AG. I was going to go to Philadelphia for Vacation this summer but chose not too because I won't vacation in a state that doesn't let me carry. I may get the out of state permit but I doubt it. I'll probably just go somewhere else again, that's easier.

 

trouble.smith

(374 posts)
9. The 10-12 hour class with range time is what I consider "reasonable firearms legislation"
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:08 AM
Sep 2012

It's the same way here in Ohio. I have no problem with this restriction and I carry every day.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
15. Since Virginia honors my Texas CHL, it just seems unneighborly
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:53 PM
Sep 2012

to no recognize and honor theirs. Texas' laws concerning legal concealed carry are fairly straight-forward, and are readily available at the TX Dept of Public Safety website, as well as at www.handgunlaw.us. Compliance isn't difficult.

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