Florida Concealed Carry Permit Holder Brings a Gun to the Airport - He Forgot It

[mikeb302000]

The Sacramento Bee reports

A central Florida man faces charges after authorities say a loaded gun was found in his backpack at Orlando International Airport.

Police say 47-year-old Edward Jody Calderon was stopped Sunday morning after a security screener spotted a .22-caliber pistol, which was loaded with six rounds. An additional magazine with 10 rounds was also found in the bag.

Calderon, who has concealed weapon permit, told police that he forgot the weapon was in his backpack. He told them he had taken the handgun with him on a recent hunting trip for snakes he might encounter.

Calderon was arrested and charged with carrying a firearm in a place prohibited by law, a second-degree misdemeanor.

How many times do we have to hear this excuse before something is done? You know what happens in gun-friendly states like Florida with second-degree misdemeanors? They're plea-bargained down to almost nothing and the dangerous and irresponsible gun owner continues on his way.

One strike you're out demands that irresponsible gun owners be held responsible for their actions. Why would other gun owners, who are responsible, object to that?

By the way, he doesn't look like the kind of guy who would forget a gun was in his backpack.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000

[99th_Monkey]

1. I didn't see any picture of the guy at that link

how do you know what he "looks like"?

[mikeb302000]

22. His pic is on my blog, if you're interested. n.t.

[Reasonable_Argument]

2. A bit vindictive aren't you?

Why ruin the guys life because he brought a pistol with him? Is it irresponsible, sure, but he really doesn't deserve more than a slap on the wrist. Hell, if you have a CCW permit from your point of departure and destination I think you should be able to carry your weapon on the damn plane.

[DrDan]

3. Exactly. What could possibly go wrong?

[Reasonable_Argument]

5. Very little most likely

Unless you think a small hole will cause explosive decompression. It won't. As for the large group of bystanders close together, that's not really any different from a bus or crowded area where it's perfectly fine to bring a weapon.

[PavePusher]

9. "What could possibly go wrong?"

Why don't you tell us? Give us a list, in order of probability, with actual odds and examples of such happening.

We'll wait, but I'm gonna order out, it's going to take you days to collate the mountain of information available....

, if I must...

[DrDan]

10. why don't I give you a list of the benefits - they follow:

[glacierbay]

17. Why don't I give you al list of problems with this-they follow:

[PavePusher]

21. Dodge, much? n/t

[4th law of robotics]

15. The goal isn't to ruin this guys life

it's to make it so easy to permanently strip citizens of their rights that we get to a point where it just makes sense to permanently strip everyone of those rights preemptively.

Right now it's "forget you have a gun go to jail and lose your 2nd amendment rights".

Eventually it would be "speed or don't pay your taxes? Lose your rights".

It's all about increments.

So really the intent isn't to ruin this guys life. But rather to ruin his life as a jumping board to ruining a great many other lives.

[mikeb302000]

23. Irresponsibility with a gun is not acceptable. n.t.

[ileus]

4. We need a pic before rendering a verdict.

[Remmah2]

6. Did he have criminal intent?

It's one thing to own a firearm, another to own one with criminal intent.

The guy sounds like an idiot, not a criminal. And a part time idiot at that as well. No intent, nobody was hurt, lesson learned.

[mikeb302000]

24. We can't read minds.

That's why we have laws like DON'T BRING THE GUN TO THE AIRPORT.

[Remmah2]

31. LOL

Lots of irony in that response.

[oneshooter]

33. I have carried to the airport many times

Once I even carried a M-16a1, 240rds of ammo, and a K Bar onto a commercial airliner. Nobody said anything to me about it.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[GreenStormCloud]

7. A person with a CCW should be able to carry anywhere, no exceptions. N/T

[slackmaster]

8. Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools

You should always be mindful of where your weapons are. They must be either under your conscious control, or stored securely, at all times.

Everyone who graduates from high school deserves to be taught that valuable lesson.

[aikoaiko]

11. Once I forgot that I had a 6 oz bottle of shampoo in my bag at a TSA checkpoint

Should I lose my shampoo for the rest of my life?

Get a grip, Mike. The consequences should be proportionate to the transgression.


But thank you for posting your extremists views. Your posts help undermine all anti-RKBAers.

[4th law of robotics]

14. Bathing is a privilege!

Did you know more people are killed by slipping in the tub than die of any other cause ever ? It's probably true. I wrote it on my blog.

[Remmah2]

32. Bathing should be mandatory!

[mikeb302000]

25. You the opposite is true

My extreme views about gun irresponsibility are attractive to everyone except the biased gun owner.

[aikoaiko]

30. How's that gun control legislation coming along?

Your views are a minority within a minority that is marginalized and impotent.

Your fear mongering no longer works.

[rrneck]

12. There's money to be made

in flogging extremist ideology. For those who do It right. For the less talented I guess popularity points are valuable. For some... well...

fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap....

[4th law of robotics]

13. "He doesn't look like the kind of guy . . . "

What does that even mean?

And I'm not going to your blog.

[glacierbay]

16. So what?

If he truly did forget it was there, then why should he lose his CC permit? I would bet that he won't lose his permit as this isn't a felony or a domestic dispute charge, he will probably pay a fine and keep his permit which he should.

And just what exactly does someone who would forget that their gun was in their backpack look like
One strike your out? Maybe that's the way they do it in Italy, but not in the US.

[mikeb302000]

26. You're right about that.

They don't do it like that in the US, especially places like FL. Everyone would be better off if they did, but all you care about is the least possible restrictions regardless of the cost. Shame on you and all your friends.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

18. This is an outrage.

It's time to allow concealed carry in the airport, on the plane and even in the tour bus bathrooms.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams (I think Adams had folks like mike in mind)

[petronius]

19. This topic is similar to a previous thread of yours, in

which I posted a relevant comment as well as a reply to your non sequitur of a one-liner. At which point you abandoned the conversation.

Same thoughts apply here: forgetting a gun is a fuck-up, but humans do occasionally fuck up. Without criminal intent, it does not rise to a level that requires harsh legal penalties, especially not the denial of a civil liberty. No matter what the guy looks like...

[mikeb302000]

27. That may be true

that people fuck up without criminal intent, but criminals disguise their actions by calling them fuck-ups. That's why we need laws. What's so hard about being responsible for your weapons, not dropping them, not shooting them unintentionally and not bringing them to the airport? What's so fucking hard about that?

[petronius]

34. It isn't hard at all, but humans occasionally make mistakes. And it's

not just about guns: people do make tiny little errors that can (but rarely do) have deadly consequences - they leave kids in back seats, fall asleep with a cigarette, forget their wives' birthdays, etc. When these mistakes happen they should be criticized and corrected, but it's not appropriate to apply harsh legal penalties to mere error, especially when the error resulted in no harm.

Criminals may claim 'innocent mistake' when caught, but so what? Part of the job of the justice system is to sort out the criminally-minded from the innocent.

[rDigital]

20. Once again. Mike, do you support complete civilian disarmament? nt

[mikeb302000]

28. No.

I support gun owners being qualified to own guns and being held responsible for them when they do.

Why do you fear that so?

[rDigital]

29. What gun rights are you willing to fight to protect? nt

[oneshooter]

35. What qualifications and restrictions would you require before owning a weapon?