NORTH CAROLINA: NRA backed law takes effect Monday.

[GreenStormCloud]

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2012/9/north-carolina-emergency-powers-law-takes-effect-this-monday.aspx

The new emergency powers statute, passed in the North Carolina General Assembly and signed into law by Governor Bev Perdue (D) on June 11, takes effect on Monday, October 1.

House Bill 843 made substantial changes to the North Carolina Emergency Management Act by adding critical language to the section of North Carolina statute that deals with what restrictions may be imposed during a declared state of emergency.

Specifically, this new law states that the restrictions section “does not authorize prohibitions or restrictions on lawfully possessed firearms or ammunition.” This means that, if there is a declared state of emergency due to natural disasters or other problems that create a state of disarray and unrest that requires emergency procedures to be implemented by a government entity, the rights of law-abiding gun owners will no longer be subject to possible suspension. The state Senate added this critical language to HB 843 in the Senate Judiciary I Committee, and HB 843 as amended then passed in the full Senate on June 5 by a 49-0 vote. The House concurred with the Senate amendments on the following day by a 113 to 1 vote.

The bill had strong bipartisan support. The bill protects people from a repeat of what happened in New Orleans after Katrina. People can keep their guns and use them to protect themselves and their property.

[bongbong]

1. Just in time

For all the Delicate Flowers (AKA scared people too cowardly to leave the house without packing heat) in NC to start shooting at Liberals after Obama wins.

[4th law of robotics]

3. You would consider Obama being reelected to be a state of emergency?

Ok, well agree to disagree then.

[bongbong]

12. Yes

Emergency in a good way for Liberals.

Emergency in a bad, bad way for repigs, teabaggers, Delicate Flowers, fundies, etc.

[ileus]

18. Didn't NC go Obama last election?

I suppose we'll just have to use this post as reference for when Obama wins again, and nothing happens.

How many people do you think will be shot when Obama wins NC again?

[4th law of robotics]

2. So it protects your right to bear arms when you most need it?

Shocking that this wasn't the law before although I fully expect a slew of knee-jerk objections simply because the NRA supported it.

The NRA could support curing cold sores and certain people would suddenly fall in love with cold sores.

[Piazza Riforma]

6. While there's nothing to love about cold sores

there has never been a case of a cold sore shooting and killing it's own child that it mistook for an intruder.
When an organization pushes laws that say I can't stop someone with a ccw from bringing their gun onto MY property and MY place of business then THEY can kiss my posterior.

[oneshooter]

7. Not only are there no such laws in effect

none have been proposed. The NRA would NOT support such a law.

[4th law of robotics]

8. A key point to remember there though

is that you're making all that up.

No such laws exist nor is the NRA pushing them.

I don't think they should be held accountable for fictitious offenses falsely attributed to them. Do you?

[shadowrider]

16. Shhhhhhhhhh. You're interrupting an uninformed rant n/t

[4th law of robotics]

21. I heard the NRA wanted to outlaw birthays

and make everyone where uncomfortable shoes, all the time!

[ileus]

19. Is some organization pushing such a law?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

4. Please note that this does not over ride a Federal order or other kind of martial law

I see it as feel good legislation, nice to have on the books but if the SHTF, probably won't do much. Symbolic if nothing else.

[oneshooter]

5. Two Words.

New Orleans

[ProgressiveProfessor]

10. I know well what happened there

My point is that even if that had been the law there, much the same would have happened.

Its a nice law, it says good things, but like I said, SHTF time comes, it will not matter.

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9. At the Federal level that is already taken care of.

The Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006, which Obama voted for, does the same thing at the Federal level as this bill does at the state level.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. Do you really believe that such niceties will be observed?

[4th law of robotics]

13. If the government doesn't follow it's own edicts

why should the citizens?

[Trunk Monkey]

14. Re: Do you really believe that such niceties will be observed?

Not even just a little bit

[Reasonable_Argument]

17. I do

Because with that law in place if a homeowner gets into a firefight with the national guard over refusing to disarm it will be a political nightmare.

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15. You aren't very familiar with Federal laws then.

Nor do you have any idea what the Federal response actually is during declared emergencies.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

22. Its not the laws, its the behaviors that concern me

I understand what the laws and roles are, I just don't believe that when the SHTF that they will be followed , particularly at the local/small unit level.

[Clames]

23. As someone who actually works with the military in emergency response...

...I'll say that nothing like what you think will happen is going to occur at the unit level.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

24. Hopefully your faith is justified and my skepticism is not.

[spin]

20. During an emergency such as a hurricane ...

it is wise to have a means of self defense for your home and your family.

When the wind reaches a certain level, emergency services will not respond to most calls. Your ability to communicate with such services may be limited or nonexistent. Often the roads are blocked with fallen trees and power lines and emergency services will find reaching your home impossible.

After the storm has subsided the National Guard will arrive and will guard heavily damaged areas but this may take a day or two. Until then you may find yourself on your own. It is also impossible for the National Guard to protect all areas suffering from the aftermath.

In most cases you have little to fear but predators do sometimes advantage of emergency situations. If you are an honest citizen who legally owns a firearm I can see no reason why the laws on having a firearm in your home for self defense or on your person if you are legally entitled to carry one in your state should be restricted because of a disaster.

It is common for those who oppose firearm ownership or legal carry to insinuate that people who own firearms are fearful and paranoid. I will only point out that if you are knowledgeable about firearm safety and proficient in the use of such weapons having a firearm available for self defense is similar to having an adequate supply of nonperishable food, a sufficient quantity of water, batteries, and an emergency generator. All are excellent ideas as part of a plan to be prepared for an disaster.

I am in no way recommending that everyone should run out and buy a firearm for self defense just in case they might find themselves in an emergency situation and basically on their own for a week or more. Guns are not for everybody! A decision to buy a firearm should require careful thought and the realization that firearms are extremely dangerous items. Owning one requires tremendous responsibility and an owner should be well trained in how to safely handle his weapon and aware that it must be stored properly.