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Eugene

(61,874 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:58 PM Sep 2016

Chelsea Manning readies for disciplinary hearing over suicide attempt

Source: The Guardian

Chelsea Manning readies for disciplinary hearing over suicide attempt

Ed Pilkington in New York
Wednesday 21 September 2016 23.15 BST

Chelsea Manning goes before a three-member disciplinary board of the US army on Thursday charged with interfering with the “good order” of the military prison in which she is held by attempting suicide, an offence that could lead to indefinite solitary confinement.

Manning, who is serving 35 years at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas for leaking a vast trove of secret documents on the US war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan, required hospital treatment after she attempted to kill herself in July. The military authorities generated outrage by responding to the army private’s act of despair by charging her with a number of serious disciplinary counts.

On Wednesday, the campaigning group Fight for the Future posted a copy of the military charge sheet that had been issued against the soldier. It showed that she has been slapped with two category-four counts – among the most serious available – both of which carry a possible sentence of indefinite solitary confinement.

One of those counts said that by attempting suicide Manning had caused the “activation of the Force Cell Move Team” – the disciplinary crew of prison officers who are deployed forcefully to remove inmates from their cells. Yet in accompanying documents also posted by the group, the official report makes clear that Manning did not do anything to resist the force cell move team and she went with them quietly.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/21/chelsea-manning-solitary-confinement-disciplinary-hearing
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Chelsea Manning readies for disciplinary hearing over suicide attempt (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2016 OP
This is from the Onion, right? pangaia Sep 2016 #1
No, suicide is punishable under Article 134 of the UCMJ Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #2
I know it is not a joke. I agree. pangaia Sep 2016 #4
This is a holdover from decades ago. If convicted, the defense team should appeal Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #5
I agree it is time to stop it. pangaia Sep 2016 #6
I grew up in the 50's and 60's and suicide was a crime in a lot of states. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #7
I'm with you. pangaia Sep 2016 #8
I'd you ever served in the military calguy Sep 2016 #3
It sure must be. pangaia Sep 2016 #9

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. This is from the Onion, right?
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:08 PM
Sep 2016

she is being disciplined for.. attempting to commit suicide?? Yeesh! Sign me up ..

PS.. " the “activation of the Force Cell Move Team” –

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. I know it is not a joke. I agree.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:00 PM
Sep 2016

That is what is so beyond the pale.

If suicide is punishable, what is the punishment?

And if attempted but failed suicide is punishable... sorry I just can not get my head around the utter stupidity of it all.






Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. This is a holdover from decades ago. If convicted, the defense team should appeal
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:05 PM
Sep 2016

to the Supreme Court. It should be defined as cruel and inhuman punishment. Also, unless they pursue a criminal case in ever attempted suicide, then it may violate her rights.

The military is struggling with dealing with suicide. It is time to stop this.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. I agree it is time to stop it.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:09 PM
Sep 2016

It is just totally illogical. I mean.. whoever would have thought up such a ridiculous law ?
That's why I tongue in cheek asked if it was something from the onion.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. I grew up in the 50's and 60's and suicide was a crime in a lot of states.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:17 PM
Sep 2016

Of course, so was homosexuality.

It is time we dumped these laws.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. I'm with you.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:58 PM
Sep 2016

But if homosexuality wad a crime, at leadt the homosexual is still a homosexual.
If someone commits suicide, they're ficking dead! What is the punishment? Jesus, i can not believe i am even joining in this whole conversation..

Nothing against you.. 😅😅

calguy

(5,306 posts)
3. I'd you ever served in the military
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:08 PM
Sep 2016

you would know that they havetheir own laws and judicial system. In many ways it is quite different than the civilian system.

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