African American
Related: About this forumJohn Lewis has endorsed Hillary Clinton
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251654332My comments on Mr. Lewis Here -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118726618
One more time though -
John Lewis didn't just 'march' or write books and lecture:
And he -
And he also -
Now he says stuff like this -
And wow - he wants us to get on up and get in trouble!
And because of this -
And yeah - this -
As I wrote on September 14th -
I've got a feeling about who Lewis will be endorsing . . .
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)See - the entire CBC is all third way plutocratic oligarch corporate overlords so it's to be expected!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Oh, and I feel like I should toss in Skull & Bones just to make sure all bases are covered.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)The Boule, The Links, Jack and Jill, Bachelors and Benedict. . .
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)I'm sure there's a few we've overlooked.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)Not everyone does though
greatauntoftriplets
(175,735 posts)I'd guess that your assessment is correct.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)And then swapped to candidate obama after voters in his district went overwhelmingly for Obama over Clinton:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28lewis.html
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)is going to go to Bernie? ... especially when he is polling in the teens among that population?
Candidate Obama was consistently polling in the 30s among African-Americans and was consistently within 15 points of HRC in 2007.
Completely different scenario.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)support, just as she won Latino/a support last time, had it not been for a "NEWCOMER" named Barack Hussein Obama. BS is no "NEWCOMER".
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)"And she would have gotten that district too, if it hadn't been for those meddling voters!"
Maybe you're right. But also, maybe you're not. We've got until super Tuesday to find out, don't we?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)I want notification the day after Super Tuesday!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)somehow magically inherit Barack Obama's most loyal constituency. It is to laugh. Someone should tell them to stop looking for similarities between BS & Barack Obama's campaign. It is much more akin to Howard Dean's 2004 campaign. A lot of excited and very passionate white liberals, but little to nobody else. That is not a winning formula for any "Democrat"..
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Lewis is a solid long time Democratic - he's always flown that flag.
Can we stop for a second and acknowledge it wasn't just a March in the deep South and an arrest -
It was physical brutality and he's lucky to be alive. This is an extremely brave man - but he had to be.
No one was going to help us - until thar physical violence, bombings, burnings, lynchings were meted out as a result of black folks standing up for themselves.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Well educated, affluent.
They tend to be quite a bit more conservative than the North Eastern/Mid Atlantic folks.
It includes 3/4 of Atlanta.
I posted this knowing folks were going to be upset or hopeful - but they have to face reality now.
Those folks aren't going for Sanders. They are not. So just forget it. And John Lewis won't be supporting him either. IF Sanders were to prevail - he would do it out of duty to his party in the G.E. -
But he's not switching on this one.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Sanders is going to have to have his gotv'ers tamp down.
I'm trying to imagine them knocking on John's door, Morehouse Grad, Harvard MBA and Law - and now Seminary graduate Minister -
Oooooh boy - they are going to have to shift gears big time.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Just like I don't think O'Malley or Sanders have a snowball's chance in hell of grabbing the primary in South Carolina.
From 2010 - but it's really only getting better for blacks in that district. If god forbid something happened to my husband - I would sell my house and move ot Hot Lanta. Not only do I have a bunch of friends from high school down there (many stayed after attending Spelman and Morehouse) but I also have quite a few cousins in that district. And my dad's older brother - my uncle Otis who I'm sure had a disco with Lewis at Church on this!
http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house/georgia/5
District Demographics
Race and ethnicity
District
White 37.6%
Black 50.2%
Hispanic 8.1%
Asian 2.6%
Native American 0.7%
Median income $50,072
Poverty rate 15.2%
Below $25,000 25.4%
$25,000-$50,000 23.4%
$50,000-$100,000 25.1%
$100,000-$200,000 15.7%
$200,000 or more 9.2%
Education
District
U.S.
High school graduate 84.6% (higher than US in 2010 which was 84.5%)
Bachelor's degree or higher 42.9% (higher than us in 2010 which was 27.4%)
Age
District
U.S. Under 18 21.7%
65 and older 9.0%
*************************************
I think we O'Malley supporters and Bernie supporters have to accept defeat on this one.
It is what it is - but I predicted this on September 14th. That area of Georgia - my well educated peers are going to go Clinton. They are more conservative than those of us in the Mid Atlantic States.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Point is, I don't think Clinton can take it for granted, either.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)That's a very democratic district - and it fits with her vision. She'll be there.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)Love the photos and words of John Lewis!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)brer cat
(24,565 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)John Lewis is a great man, has worked very hard in his life to make life better for others,
DrBulldog
(841 posts). . . his career strongly parallels that of Bernie Sanders.
Gee, does anyone recall Hillary doing racial activism work 40-50 years ago?
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Sanders has focused primarily on economic justice - Lewis always has his eyes on Civil Rights and making sure all Americans - can be assured they have the most basic rights.
Let's face it - his district has prosperous blacks moving to it from all over the country (see my posts up thread) for a reason.
It's not just two HBCUs - it really does have a "feel" to it.
They have both achieved what they have - because of their very different focus points. But they are indeed different.
He (Lewis) could have fled as so many did - he chose to stand and fight - just as my grandfather did in the 1920's (a Morehouse grad) when so many from his graduating class moved to Harlem, Boston, and California.
Now the children and grandchildren at the tail end of the Great Migration - move down South for economic opportunity. It has to be the "right" place - and his district is the right place.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Oh my God! Once again I feel like we are the same person or at the very least, spiritual 1st cousins!!
And my granny went across the road to Spellman.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Mary and Richard were * I think* 1919 and 1921.
My granddaddy got himself an older woman!
Number23
(24,544 posts)He got there a few years before MLK!
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Keep in mind - I'm the youngest of 33 grandchildren. My moms grandparents were my dad's parents contemporaries! My dad was a rebel - Tuskeegee man!
Number23
(24,544 posts)We have a couple of Tuskeegee alums in my family too! And my granny's sister went to Mo Brown. HBCU's are well represented in my family but having gone to an all black pre-school, elementary school, middle school and high school, I wanted to see what else was out there when I went to college.
When I started my undergrad, for the first time in my ENTIRE life, I understood what it meant to be a minority. Up until that point I kept "hearing" that black folks were a minority but that's all I ever saw everywhere I looked. That was some scary shit.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)His older siblings would say - he and the twins (born when his mom was in her early 40's - total oops babies!) had different parents than those who were born when my grandparents were in their 20's and 30's.
Being the baby of the 33? Going down there for weeks at a time when I was a little kid without my parents? I had totally different grands than my cousins in their 60s!
Example - figuring out that I could pop popcorn by throwing it at the cow fence and eating it like a baby seal. My granddaddy doesn't warn me or my comrades in doing the wrong thing about the dangers involved - just says "I don't grow a lot of that corn so don't eat it all." Zero Adult Guidance.
Good times. Good times.
Charmed life. One set of grands had a home with a boat on Lake Tahoe and one in La Jolla. They were the young 'uns who played with us.
The other set had goats and dogs and chickens and tractors and a bull (that was not fun - ouch) and by the time I came along - were completely immune to the antics of little people "goin for bad".
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)e'rybody knows ya'll just 'posed to be moanin'.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)for his endorsement of Sec Clinton? I've got news for you...the most liberal CBC member and lone opponent of the IWR, Barbara Lee, has also endorsed Hillary. There's a reason for it, but you won't figure it out until the primaries are already over.
Number23
(24,544 posts)That they could not POSSIBLY be for real.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)And you're so right, no other icon is more appropriate. They need to stop that shit. It's no longer a palatable argument, just ask Black Twitter.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)that I have ever seen in my life.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)lib87
(535 posts)To laugh at this.
Bernie Sanders is his own man with his own accomplishments which is fine. This need to constantly try to compare and tie him to great Black civil rights activists (especially in a Black forum space) will always end poorly. Always.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Digital Puppy
(496 posts)Not sure what to say to that line of reasoning...I guess I was blind and now I see!! This changes everything!! Thank the Lawd someone has taken the veil from ma blind eyes!!! Thanks soooo much for 'splaining' that to me!!
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Anyone endorsed by John Lewis couldn't help but feel extra wind in their sails. <3
Cha
(297,211 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)I was totally expecting the "Hillary twisted his arm" crap from some and it was there. What I was not expecting was for someone to be so incensed over this endorsement that they would actually CALL HIS OFFICE to "confirm" that's what happened. That was absolutely surreal.
But for the most part, the conversations were mostly respectful. I guess after the BLM fiasco, a few here have realized that they truly cannot afford to alienate black folks even further.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)has been really tame, lol
Over at DK, though...well, it's a hot mess...836 comments in Miss Dee's diary and at least two response diaries...
Number23
(24,544 posts)Facebook page after he endorsed Hillary. Edit: Corrected the Link! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/08/1429419/-John-Lewis-Endorses-Hillary-Clinton-and-No-One-Should-Second-Guess-Him
I am so goddamned sick of these fucking people.
A sample of the comments:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1429419/57862918#c57
A few favorites:
Unreal.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Many white people who self-describe as 'progressive' have an ignorance problem and a racism problem. Perhaps the racism is borne of ignorance. It's still ignorant racism, imho.
revmclaren
(2,523 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Second will be O'Malley if he gets traction in IA or NH. I think there is room for upset in the party. That's not to offend Clinton OR Sanders supporters.
Reality is - the real under dog in this Campaign is O'Malley. None of the three has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the low information white male voter in square and Southern states with a chip on his shoulder about "them ones" taking something from him.
In the GE the state goes to the Republicans as a default.
In 2014 (articles on the web) the SC voter turn out was the lowest in decades and that's probably why Governor Phoney Baloney won again. iF we have a strong Democratic voter turn out and IF we gain swing votes we might get it. But I doubt it . . . Regardless of who the nominee is - they stay Red.
Better to focus on PA (there were voting rights shenanigans there in 2012) than SC in the GE.
Oh - and Trump looks good to them now but he will be a gift to our party in a GE. It's well known in NYC he pays around on his wife. He has them paid off now but will they stay quiet? And the pictures of his current wife floating around aren't going to play well when they pop back up in a GE.
MADem
(135,425 posts)There was quite a kerfluffle about that on this board, earlier today.