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(HUMOR AND SATIRE TRIGGER WARNING)
1. DO NOT arrive empty handed to Black Thanksgiving. Store bought isnt great, but if you arent sure how Black holiday food works, its better than getting the church lady look when you bring candied parsnips over. See rule 2.)
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2. The answer is ALWAYS sweet potatoes. Neauxp, no pumpkin, parsnips, rutabagas, butternut squash, nah-unh
sweet potatoes aka yams. (Not really yams)
3. As with our close cousin Southern White Thanksgiving, we dont call cornbread stuffing, stuffing
.we call it dressing. Calling it stuffing, is a dead giveaway you dont know the quality of what you brought over. Throw that boxed stuff away.
4. Bruce Almighty (wink wink) didnt create yams, De Lawd did, so buy the ones that dont come in a can when you follow rule 2.
5. Macaroni and cheese with breadcrumbs and bechamel sauce? Really? And its not even urunge? Neauxp
. not Black Thanksgiving approved.
6. Potato salad year round is a thing. Dont ask who made it, just know their hands are clean. Potato salad is yellow, has paprika and eggs so dont be confused.
7. Expect an elder to ask a young child to dance, perform, recite a poem or read from the Bible against their will for the entertainment of other elders.
8. Grace will last a while when Daddy/Grandaddy so and so or Big Mama, Nana, Grammy or MDear says it, so make sure you dont starve yourself prior to arrival.
9. Black people hate it when youre not a cheerful eater, so load up your plate. Strategy: if youre used to white food just try to load up on stuff youll actually eat and tuck in the obligatory candied yams and collard greens where necessary. Save room for dessert. Candied yams or sweet potato casserole with marshmallows is NOT dessert.
10. Like any ethnic household expect people to talk about food while eating food.
You will likely be eating roast turkey, barbecued turkey, deep fried turkey, glazed country ham, collard greens, macaroni and cheese, green beans, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes mashed and covered with marshmallows, corn, cornbread, yeast/potato rolls, black eyed peas, rice, gravy, potato salad, cranberry sauce from the can, sweet potato pie, cornbread dressing, fried apples (think Boston Market apples), chitterlings, apple crisp, chess pie, fill-in-the-blank cobbler, ice cream, caramel cake, deviled eggs, green salad, and something almost Afrocentric..
11. DO NOT be that other that goes Well its not just Black people that eat/do
. What the hell is that supposed to really mean??? a. You dont think we have a unique culture unless we do magical, innate, instinctual things yall cant do? b. You dont seem to grasp that each culture puts its own spin on common themes. c. Youre showing that you believe in the Black Box (newsflash..we can be just as universal and influential as anyone else) d. You are desperate to have the newest college student in the family demonstrate their newfound skills in oppression deflection learned in Introduction to African American Studies. In any case, saying nonsense will get you the look that Mr. Johnson gave Ray. (Ask your host for the story once the Moscato gets flowing.)
12. Speaking of college
expect the student to have a newfound prejudice against pork, meat in general or cooked food, all of which will cause palpitations for the cook and rolled eyes. We are used to this, but know the special plate, is for the newfound #Hotep/poor righteous teacher, Natural sister/brother, or boho in the room
not for you. It may seem achingly familiar and inviting, but unless you want a the look that Mr. Johnson gave Ray (ask the host once the Moscato gets flowing) along with lectures on how the white man takes everything, leave the special plate alone.
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nc4bo
(17,651 posts)My fam was small but we had our thing but hubby's huge family T'day OMGAWD - a hoot and share many of the descriptions above.
Good times, fantastic memories.
Kber
(5,043 posts)Some of the above resonates (sweet potatoes), some less so.
Love to all families this Thanksgiving in any and all events!
Number23
(24,544 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Cooked my collards, spooned them out (minus the green juice), put them in a foil tray and covered w/sheet foil then into the fridge. Done!
Now for the good part!
Got a cup and dumped the likka into it and now have a refreshing beverage now....and some for tomorrow with the cornbread
Can't tell me nothin!!!
Number23
(24,544 posts)What are you serving with the collards?? Do you put ham in them? I used to LOVE mine smothered in tomatoes.
What are your thoughts about fried corn?? Pro or con?? What kind of gravy are you going for?
Girl, help a sister stuck in a country that doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving (let alone black and/or Southern Thanksgiving) out!!!!
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)My mom would throw her part French ovaries around with the Lapin Au Vin and then tip of the hat to my dad's mom with the handed down roasted venison recipe!
Number23
(24,544 posts)That's what I'm talking about!!
eppur_se_muova
(36,262 posts)Unlike Italian families crying "abbondanza!" WASP kids are more likely to hear "leave some for the others", even when there's enough for an army. Something about a love of sacrifice. A dinner where I'm encouraged to fill up my plate ? Great ! Better than the local Chinese all-you-can-eat buffet !
But I strongly disagree with any suggestion of holding back on collard greens or candied yams.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)We've learned our lesson from our young vegetarian/vegan/raw members that's actually helped increase the list of good recipes over the years.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)At least I know that you've got 2 beautiful homes, beautiful girls that we can celebrate with utmost gratitude. Bless you, Number23. "You've got a world full of love"
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)No matter where I've lived, away from or close to family, that song just grounds me and voila, I'm home
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Last year, there were 99 of us. My wife's father is one of nine children, and they all had lots of kids, and grandchildren, etc. This is not the entire family, just those that chose to show up.
This was the first year I was the only white person there. Usually, there are at least two or three.
So, they rent out a 4H hall and it is a massive pot luck. Most of the food is what is mentioned above, though there were a couple of things that I never heard of. And where is the hominy?
Most of the family doesn't seem to drink, though there is a small core of guys slipping outside for some moonshine.
and the local specialty is white potato pie, a regional thing. No peach cobblers at all.
After dinner, the tables are cleared to play a mass game of pokeno, while some of the guys are off in a side room watching football.
And there is way too much food, and people fix themselves massive styrofoam containers of leftovers to take home and feed themselves for a long time. Often, multiple containers.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)"The Lawd created sweet potatoes"
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Choked on his espresso reading this piece ths morning!
Great find an accurate.
He says I should do one for how to survive Your First Italian Sunday Lunch and start with -
It last ten hours!
onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)Today, I start my cooking...dressing, cobbler, macaroni & cheese, etc...somehow my mother promoted herself to a supervisory role...she's a hard taskmaster!!! I'll do the dressing and pies today.
You guys are great. Remember no political talk over the bird tomorrow...unless all minds agree. My oldest son is feeling the bern. I've warned him, then put on some sunscreen before you come over. Tomorrow is a day to be thankful that we'll have made it another year together. I know my family has lost loved ones this year. Probably, most families have. Not to mention, to say he's outnumbered would be an understatement. He can try to recruit AFTER Thanksgiving on his own time and with his own meal...chicken nuggets, if he wants too.
DU seems about the same. I just read Bernie was BLM before BLM and was making history to boot. I thought, oh well...why not? It's DU after all. I don't know he's making history. We've had both Jewish men and socialists run for President. But, I'm okay with that. Now, he's more black than black folks...yeah, whatever??? I'm unwilling to attempt any of the mental flips that reasoning would require.
I cannot wait until the primary, no matter who gets it.
But, I'm thankful for all of you. You make DU make sense. And, that ain't easy. This place is a nice, tiny oasis...sitting in the midst of some of the craziest writing I think I've ever seen in my life. But, we all know people like that in real life, right...That co-worker In the corner cubicle with the picture of the flower and cats on her desk...who no one wants to sit next to because she's constantly saying strange stuff, and she's the only one that doesn't know it. Some other coworker tried to tell her, but her feelings got hurt...so now you just leave her alone. Yeah, that's DU.
Happy Thanksgiving!!!
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)You had me chocking on my dinner with the imagery of that special someone at work....I have that same co-worker. Thanks so much for your post.
Have a great Thanksgiving!!
Number23
(24,544 posts)Peach??! Apple??! WHAT dammit??!!
onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)You should have seen it bubbling!!! I've threatened everybody in the house. That pie has got to live to see tomorrow! I usually cook two...but thought, naw...it'll live. But, you can't turn your back on these people for a minute. I think I saw someone take some ice cream out of the freezer...don't even think about it. There are two potato pies...they're already bargaining for one. I don't think one of those are gonna make it to the table.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Hold the sweet potato and pumpkin pie though. Me and orange pies do not get along.
I think I saw someone take some ice cream out of the freezer...don't even think about it.
Hee hee, you know they are just WAITING for you to look away for a hot milisecond, don't you?? Girl that cobbler and that ice cream will be GONE and you'll just see some folks rubbing their bellies and looking happy as hell.
Man, I am sitting here just imagining a hob, bubbling peach cobbler. The smell of peaches and cinnamon filling up the whole house. Y'all are KILLING me.
onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)It was half eaten by morning. I had to bake another for Thanksgiving dinner.
Someone mentioned politics while I was holding the cake knife. Full order was promptly restored!!!
Number23
(24,544 posts)We all like this...
and onpatrol's family that ate that sucker are all like this
onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)Too Hilarious!!!!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)So true. I picture some folks as 'that really angry dude who doesn't stop lecturing everyone.'
Yes indeed, this place is 'a nice tiny oasis...sitting in the midst of some of the craziest writing...'
HT to you too!
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Got me in the holiday mood. Have a fun and restful holiday friends!
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Gluten is that stuff that could make a child with Celiac vomit all over your nice Thanksgiving table.
Or the adult with gluten sensitivity bleed intestinally the next day.
Unfortunately, it's often a hidden ingredient.
So I follow rule #26, the vegan rule.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Okay, a couple of questions.
What's chess pie?
What's 'the look that Mr. Johnson gave Ray'?
Happy Thanksgiving one and all!
redwitch
(14,944 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Happy Thanksgiving!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)And secondly, .
Thanks Blue, I needed this today.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)ALL of them mentionable by the way
.
but never candied one.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)admit, can be boring. But I don't want "candied parsnips" EVER! Hope you & yours had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)I get the feeling while reading this that my Kentucky mountain raising would decently prepare me. And it would be hard to find someone who actually said Grace longer than my Papaw did. And it was dressing back home too.
My uneducated guess is that there are similarities between celebrations in many family oriented cultures.
And now I am missing all four of my Grandparents, and my Dad, in a bad way.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Happy Thanksgiving, get the red out.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)Just finished our Thanksgiving, my husband, me and our 2 sons. Nuthin' fancy but yummy. Youngest son ate a Paul Newmans frozen pizza. Sigh. No idea where I went wrong with that one!
Missing all of those who sat at the grown up table.
Number23
(24,544 posts)grandparents and father. The holidays are so bittersweet, aren't they?? They can be so joy filled one minute and the next you are reminiscing over people long or recently gone or things/places you may not see again. *sigh*
But the idea of eating a Paul Newman frozen pizza on Thanksgiving is easily the saddest thing I've heard all day. Good grief! He would have been banned from even sitting at the Tgiving table in my grandad's house which was our meeting spot.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)It's a good thing he is such a dear boy.He will eat pumpkin pie with us so that's something.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)My husband and I took my Mom and his two grown nephews, who didn't have plans, out to eat at a nice restaurant. We had a good time, and being true Kentuckians, talked a lot of basketball.
Before we left for the restaurant, I picked Mom up at her assisted living community and brought her over to watch part of the National Dog Show with our Border Collie licking her face.
It was all good! New but good!
Number23
(24,544 posts)If anybody should know better about making ASSumptions, it's me!
redwitch
(14,944 posts)And my mom as well. All those beautiful people sitting around the table at my grandparents house at the grown up table were all younger than I am now. I get a bit melancholy thinking of them at the holidays.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I'm just an old Minnesota lady, born and bred, and of Norwegian descent, to boot. Never been to a Black Thanksgiving, but have also never had a Thanksgiving without candied sweet potatoes - absolutely obligatory.
And, in a perhaps ironic twist considering the OP, this year we were graced by the presence of my youngest niece's black partner - and I mean "graced" in every sense of the word. This lovely man took on the cooking of the turkey and the making of the gravy - and OMG! it was so delicious and perfectly done that we were all practically swooning at the table!
I do believe he survived our "Northern White Thanksgiving" quite handily - I just hope he's prepared to be recruited to cook the turkey from here on out!
And the dear young man earned extra points with me when he saw me paring parsnips while the turkey was cooking - his eyes genuinely lit up: "Wow! You're doing parsnips! I love parsnips!"
Yup, just like candied sweet potatoes, parsnips are obligatory at our White Thanksgiving. (but NOT "candied" - *shudder* - I've never heard of such a thing!)
Anyway, the only looks exchanged around our table were great big smiles.
I hope all of you had a wonderful Thanksgiving Day!
kwassa
(23,340 posts)With the other roasted veggies.
Smaller family turnout, only about 80 or so. Food, football, and pokeno. A great time. Many great dishes
And white potato pie for desert!
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Seriously, everybody in this house does and are sleeping back as I finish up some bits of work-work. All quiet and peaceful on the Western Front.
We kept it simple and impromptu, cooking, cleaning, munching and drinking all day long. Then went to see my dad. Luckily, he'd been asleep all day, the nurses updated us earlier, and he wanted to rest some more when we got there. I can't believe I miss the long, long, long prayer from him before feasting this year.
Looking at my dad now, I remembered our first year here, he was so excited for Thanksgiving holiday, more than even before Christmas, that he wanted his family so badly in the States to experience. He and his group of friends, who journeyed together as young men, used to meet at each others apartments and do their own African thing, with turkey, of course, and lots of drinking
zappaman
(20,606 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)My gf and I lived with my black friend for six months when I lost my home. We spent holidays like Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter with him and his family...Except for some greens the fare seemed pretty Middle American to us...
I can remember as a kid going over to my friend's home whose mom was from Italy and whose dad was Italian American for Thanksgiving...They would have traditional Thanksgiving fare but they also would have Spaghetti and Lasagna.