African American
Related: About this forumFlagged for review for rejecting and objecting to offensive paternalistic clap trap.
Sorry Number23... they got you, hope you will be back soon!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=864107
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=865090
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=865098
Wanted you to know, I enjoyed reading every single one of your posts in that thread!
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Or in the case of DU, flagged! What the hell is happening on DU that Blacks have to be cordoned off to the AA forum because they can't speak their piece in the primary forum? Time for this shit to stop and I mean now! Every gawd damn day, someone from the AA forum is either flagged for review or put out to pasture just because they speak their minds on racism. And yet, some people can post all the racist clap trap they want and they are rec'ed for it.
JustAnotherGen
(31,958 posts)I'm blocking them if they aren't already.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)I am sick of them!
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)are paid to come here and stir up the pot. How else do you explain so many of us being silenced.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,958 posts)And voted to *edit* leave and it stayed.
Some of these people at DU - I hope I never meet or knock on my door. I swear on my father's grave I will slam my big old double front doors right in their face.
If they could just leave the black folks around here alone except for their favorites we wouldn't have these issues.
Hey number23 -
We are just a bunch of bed wench house slaves so we are 'fair game' around here. I served on another jury and that one stayed though. I'm glad. Some people get away with murder around here left and right - and can be insulting and speak down to black people when they are not our allies in our basic civil rights and respect in America (they only want us to vote for their socialism programs/ideas and then throw us away). Time to remember and remember and remember that . . . They NEED us and it sticks in their CRAW that they are absolutely dependent on black women to win the Democratic Primary and a General Election.
This country has already changed demographics and they best learn now - keep putting your boots on our neck eventually you will get knocked over.
randys1
(16,286 posts)And I dont know how much longer I can support Bernie knowing the company I am keeping.
Number23
(24,544 posts)we wouldn't have these issues."
This is what I don't understand either. They have their favorites, so why the hell are they so fucking CONSUMED with what the rest of us say/think?? Are their friends not enough? Not stimulating or something? I don't get it.
Actually cutting and pasting my comments from a WEEK ago into the thread and then doing the "blink blink, huh?? What you say?? I did nuthink!1" thing when I respond. And if it had just been left at that, it would have been fine but that conversation unfortunately inspired someone else to barge into the thread and do the thing that they do all of the time. That hidden post made it clear as crystal that person was there to start shit and harangue from the first post. As per usual.
They NEED us and it sticks in their CRAW that they are absolutely dependent on black women to win the Democratic Primary and a General Election.
Personally, I am going to enjoy my new found power and influence. Now I FINALLY get to see how the Other Half lives!! Care to enjoy some roast pheasant with me??
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)See the BLM and social justice issues put salt on Bernie's tail.
Before they can have their revolution which is meant to better their lives they have to contend with AA's.
And AA's didn't buy into the economic justice meme like they wanted.
Bernie has no more base to build on.
He needs AA's more than they need him.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Everyone in this forum knows it. I think that Sanders knows it and has really made a few sincere attempts to acknowledge that. And I think the folks who are hounding black posters here know it too and like JAG says, it sticks in their craw. It makes them howl at the moon. They just can't freaking STAND it that we will support and vote for whoever the hell we want and that we have any power at all.
Their anger has made them the brunt of so many articles, blog posts, Kos diaries etc. Even Occupy distanced itself from this behavior. And their anger leads to rage on ANY topic even remotely to do with black people which is why you have someone baying at the moon about how pissed off they were that more people weren't mad at Hillary re: BLM in a thread about ROSA PARKS. Hey, it's black people right? These issues must all be the same. Right??
I got the chance to read Dyson's piece and he even talks about Hillary's response to BLM. While he was unimpressed with the exchange, I think he appreciated the rawness and honesty from both sides. I have personally not been blown away by any of the candidate's responses to BLM though O'Malley does seem to be leading the field in that regard.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'm so sorry this is happening.
Cannot wait till the primary is over and they have to STFU. Peanut brittle? I am making a batch this weekend.
Number23
(24,544 posts)with a hide of her own after all of that. And this was after I noted quite clearly in the thread that this person's MO is to enter a thread, harass the dog shit out of people in it, and then alert like crazy until a post is hidden. Cha's posting of the jury results of one of my hidden posts in the thread show that's exactly what happened.
Peanut brittle? I am making a batch this weekend.
Why thank you very much! Don't mind if I do!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)and butter. It is all in the timing, just a few seconds before it will burn, and it's perfect.
About every fifth batch I do burn, LOL. But it keeps me humble. PM me the address to ship it to, and I will send off Monday.
murielm99
(30,778 posts)I think they may find a way to sabotage this group even after the primaries. Wait and see.
betsuni
(25,711 posts)100% sure.
JustAnotherGen
(31,958 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)That one in particular follow and follows and follows me around aski g why I posted something on another website TWO MONTHS AGO. Must have total control over what I post. No matter how many tine I tell that person I do not care one fucking bit what they think about me, they must still follow me to whine and complain.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Isn't white wine for fish only?? How about a nice Malbec! I fell in love with Malbec when I was in South America.
That one in particular follow and follows and follows me around
Oh girl, we've all noticed. TRUST that. I got PMs from people I've never seen before and even in this thread, there are people that are not regulars in this forum that are seeing VERY clearly what's going on. Like I said, 5 million megawatt spotlight just SHINING.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Love it though.
That one and her star buddie are just not the business. They think it makes them look fabulous and smart like superstars. One person in particular is so desparate and sad that they save years old links to have at the ready to 'prove' somebody a liar for changing their mind eight years later. Insane.
Now people can see why I have got to help Bernie lose. I must laugh at them later. I can wait.
LuvLoogie
(7,058 posts)Try the Gascon Reserva Malbec.
LuvLoogie
(7,058 posts)Right now I'm liking the inexpensive Mason Cellars Pomelo Sauvignon Blanc. I think Bravenak might like it as a change from her Reisling kick.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And since I'm such a lightweight I stick to the one thing I know which is red wine. Even though it's about 100 times more potent than white wine.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)so red wine. That's what I was taught.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)That's difficult to do from a keyboard and the couch.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Sorry Number23. That forum is toxic.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)That everyone else is racist....so they don't have to feel guilty for their own prejudices.
I call it blinded by the White. Its like men telling women what its like to be pregnant.....and trying to explain how they experience pregnancy too......as if its their feet in the stirrups.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Bingo.
I'm quite fond of "blinded by the white" as well.
https://m.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)I enjoyed your posts in that thread, too, Number 23. I'm sorry there are people on DU trying to silence you.
brer cat
(24,628 posts)More stalking and bogus hides for the AA community. You said nothing hide-worthy, but obviously one mustn't bruise the tender feelings of some "victims" here, and certainly not dare to suggest that black people know more about black issues than whites. It has been true for too long here that for many it is "my way or the highway" and they have enough supporters to get jury decisions to enforce it.
WIProgressive88
(314 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)At this point I would say that DU's Administrators allowing certain things to continue unabated means they are partially responsible for the toxic and hostile atmosphere some segments of DU's population are subjected to.
Their total unwillingness to rein in the worst offenders just means it gets worse and worse with some racist crap now totally allowed as long as it's a Sanders supporter and they get the majority on a jury.
I would say that "Stockholm Syndrome" thread is a prime example.
Even though a jury let is slide, it was offensive enough to so many people (including Sanders supporters) the Admins should have stepped in. But they chose/choose not to.
There are still enough intelligent and worthwhile posts/posters here to make the place still have some value. But I rarely post and try very hard to stay out of Primary.
randys1
(16,286 posts)I would NOT be willing to run off all those people and dollars, if I am being honest.
But what I would do is I would instantly trash the jury system which is absurd given who are the victims of it over and over again.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)You nailed it. Hope you are doing well, my friend!
randys1
(16,286 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I committed to one year, so I'll keep it on life support that long. Thanks for your help!
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Will try to remember to do so soon. I'm always up for alternatives to DU. Just wish there was one with the exact same format.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)The arrogance of SOME of Bernie's supporters is mind-boggling. They (the percentage I'm referring to) have the audacity, on a regular basis, to tell black posters and black people how to THINK and how to FEEL about everything. That's wrong. As I've said several times, I'll follow the lead of the black community on issues directly related to it.
Come back to DU when you feel like it. It gives me no pleasure to say this, but at the rate his campaign is going, he is going to lose the primaries, starting in South Carolina if not earlier. His percentages in the AA community are very low, too low, to win the primaries or the GE. I said weeks ago that he needed to "camp out" in the communities with large AA populations, and I still think that's what he should do. Will he do it ? I doubt it, but I'd be glad to be wrong.
I won't be surprised if I get my very first hide in over ten years for this post.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)I got my first hide thanks to those guys and Skinner wouldn't even admit that it was a problem. Some days this place makes me cry.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Trolling or thin-skinned or both. I can understand hides based on blatant personal attacks, but the rest, no.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And anybody that says anything different is the enemy.
Shockingly, I am perfectly okay with that.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I don't care who or what it's in support of. It gets my back up and it is STUPID as a tactic of persuasion.
Unless it's reverse psychology. Hmmmmm, makes me wonder..... (No, I have no basis for that speculation, except that this garbage as a means, supposedly, of garnering support for your candidate is so incredibly STUPID.)
ismnotwasm
(42,021 posts)I love your posts and I learn a lot from you.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)and I'm sorry, Number23. They can dish it but they surely can't take it.
I'm counting the days till you return, Dear Girl
randys1
(16,286 posts)that could be hidden.
But it was anyway and I guess if a Black person expresses their feelings, it is a no no.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)N23 called him/her a liar and a racist. I guess when words have absolutely no effect then you got to go running to mommy.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)I second everything that has been said in this thread thus far, but just wanted to add how much I admire Number 23's contributions here and so much appreciate her voice. She's always been one of my favorite people here, she's wicked smart and knows her way around the turn of a phrase. Takes shit from NO ONE.
It's absolutely shameful what has been allowed to happen here. It's ridiculous how some are actually rewarded for their sickening behavior.
Hurry back, 23.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I posted and less than five minutes later, the alerts were flying. Shot down 0-7 but that's not even really the point.
BTW, Chitown has sent me alot of PM's and that boy is even funnier and smarter in PM than on the boards. It's astonishing what folks say when they know nobody's looking!
I love you too, BJ. You are the best.
The Polack MSgt
(13,200 posts)Hope Kev graces us with his DU presence soon.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Your sharp mind and great sense of humor are cherished by me & many others.
I would not have voted to hide any of those posts.
All your posts are truthful. Every single one.
The Polack MSgt
(13,200 posts)Obviously, telling the truth without couching all language in a way that protects the delicate feelings of the pearl clutch crew is the real problem here at DU.
Although in this case it seems that the truth offended folks more than the language.
Number23
(24,544 posts)It ALWAYS does, Polack.
randys1
(16,286 posts)to being shot for no reason, told they cant have the job or apartment for no reason, by now.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)The hides were complete BS, and this seems to happen over and over again.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)tishaLA
(14,176 posts)Those were completely bogus, as expected. Hurry back, Number23. I always love your posts.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)...I looked at those threads and am thinking, "i'm not fucking with those crazy-ass people". And why do I keep seeing the same folks fanning the stupidity flame? The same ones who love to "Compli-diss" people of color and passive-aggressively defend institutional racism/sexism by tearing down the victims...
I envy, and am in awe of you all for trying to engage these bullshitters. You are better than me, and you certainly have more strength than I. All of these are perfect examples of why I don't post.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And judging by the fact that I've been on DU for over 40 minutes and am just now getting through all of the PM's I've gotten from people here, it did nothing but show ONCE AGAIN the harassment of minority posters here by certain individuals.
It also showed that every word I typed about a certain person's MO -- fly into a thread, harass posters and then alert like mad -- was spot on and nothing but the truth. I got at least two other jury results from that thread where I was alerted. One incredibly astute juror noted that the alerter had "brass" to alert on my posts because the main thrust of all of them was me asking this person to leave me the hell alone and that there was "nothing in the TOS that said I had to read anyone's posts."
All of that hollering, jumping and screaming for only 76 recs. And to top it off, the person doing the trouble making did absolutely NOTHING but shine a 5 million watt spotlight shown on their own behavior and got a hidden post of their own. Good times, man. Good times.
Denzil_DC
(7,281 posts)On Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Heh. I don't regret one single word, one punctuation mark, one ANYTHING that I posted in that thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=33774
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Bragging about breaking the rulez at DU!!
Trollism taken to a new height here at the DU forum!
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:18 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Physician heal thyself.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Context of posts is everything. I've seen the context that Af-Am posters live with, and believe that his reading of one population on DU is founded. If another resents his characterization and alerts, I'm going to err on the side of his version of posting events here.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Personally I think this whole thread of meta crap should be locked, but this particular post doesn't call anyone out by name, and in context, doesn't really seem that out of line.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Thanks, Denzil. Wow.
Cha
(297,818 posts)How dare you "brag" when there's alert stalkers behind every post!!!
ismnotwasm
(42,021 posts)That's just crazy
JustAnotherGen
(31,958 posts)Seriously!
And I'm not locking this thread.
And if anyone tries to hide the op - you watch me tack it to the top of the group!
Denzil_DC
(7,281 posts)I ... err ... was already gone.
JustAnotherGen
(31,958 posts)The alerter.
Denzil_DC
(7,281 posts)Sorry, my bad.
1monster
(11,012 posts)On Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Heh. I don't regret one single word, one punctuation mark, one ANYTHING that I posted in that thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=33774
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Bragging about breaking the rulez at DU!!
Trollism taken to a new height here at the DU forum!
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:18 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Physician heal thyself.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Context of posts is everything. I've seen the context that Af-Am posters live with, and believe that his reading of one population on DU is founded. If another resents his characterization and alerts, I'm going to err on the side of his version of posting events here.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Personally I think this whole thread of meta crap should be locked, but this particular post doesn't call anyone out by name, and in context, doesn't really seem that out of line.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Thanks so much, 1Monster!
Well, with that result, I guess there's no hiding which way 1Monster and I voted.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Juror 3's response (not me) read but it didn't copy across for some reason.
1monster
(11,012 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,281 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)you deserve to be silenced.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Clickety clickety. If certain folks wish to not give an impression that they stalk in here and alert on everything around the clock, perhaps they should wait a credible amount of time before mashing the alert button?
Number23
(24,544 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Stay and post with good people.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I went to school with his cousin. Did you know his mom invented ...
Well. How interesting. If you search white-out you get one inventor, if you search wite-out you get another. I think I'd better think it out again. Tomorrow, as it's late. 'Night, probably.
Number23
(24,544 posts)heart. I'd never even heard of them until MTV started playing their show during the late 80s, early 90s. And I was hooked with a capital H, even though I never told any of my friends about that. Black girls from urban areas didn't listen to no damn Monkees, you know.
There's a YouTube Channel of The Monkees tv show! Did you know that?? It's here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2F217D855BEA1AD6
But this is my favorite Monkees jam.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I could sing it as soon as I saw the title.
Since you are a later-gen fan, do you remember the brouhaha about their initially not being allowed to do anything but sing?
"Play magic fingers!" at 1:09. I can't find the version I remember, where he raises his right hand up while the guitar plays on.
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ZkL-w7Q1gvw
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Mmmmm, well maybe we will... - of semi-meaningless associations.
So, "pick it, Luther!" in my link above (I'm assuming that's the name of a studio musician), reminded me of picking in general, which reminded me of...
https://m.
I don't know if this 90s semi-joke ("semi" because they were beyond excellent musicians) group is considered politically correct, but I love their rythm&bluegrass.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)as a kid.
"Black girls from urban areas didn't listen to no damn Monkees, you know." Isn't that the truth??? I had to keep that a secret. It wasn't until I saw Crooklyn did I realize I wasn't the only one, when the kids settled down after fighting to listen to the Partridge Family sing I Woke Up In Love This Morning. Too cute!
Number23
(24,544 posts)but the Partridge Family was the bomb!!
Ah, memories.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)This group helps a lot, though.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I literally screamed when I saw you've been posting practically all day, not EVEN missing a beat! I'm so glad I came back to seethe some more. I don't know how this time-out system works but I am overjoyed!
Only one song comes to mind OUTSTANDING!
betsuni
(25,711 posts)Said DU is a safe space for black women and they have the advantage here because old white men do not get that consideration, black woman can say anything and not get alerted on.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
lib87
(535 posts)knowing good and well white men run DU.
Anyways, 23 you stood up for what was right and I love it.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I have 3 DUERS in mind that are such the victims as to have posted that blind sh!t ... I just want to know if I'm correct.
betsuni
(25,711 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)AA forum would make such a statement!!1one1!
betsuni
(25,711 posts)Heh.
betsuni
(25,711 posts)The comment she responded to called her a spammer-liar and brings up that PM again. Her comment that "That was the best PM in the WORLD" was hidden. But DU is a safe space for her gender/race.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Bravenak could post a recipe for mac & cheese and someone would alert on it. X(
betsuni
(25,711 posts)And I see now it's a thing that if the first poster in a thread isn't a Bernie supporter, it is a vast conspiracy by Them.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)God, I wish we all really had the power in rl that gets attributed to the Them.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I'd buy that for a dollar!
betsuni
(25,711 posts)I finished off a leftover shrimp gratin for breakfast and still feel groggy, but it was delicious.
Number23
(24,544 posts)These people have lost their minds. Truly.
And you know what's funny? Is that the more they do crap like this, alert on her every word and hideher posts that don't even come CLOSE to being personal or any other type of attack, all it does is embolden her more.
So well done, cretins!
betsuni
(25,711 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)OK, now my head hurts because I literally smacked it. 0.1% hides. Something is wrong with this system.
betsuni
(25,711 posts)Cha
(297,818 posts)They've censored her again.. just because they don't like her. What does that say about them?
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It fairly Screams of Desperation. And, they're allowed to do this .. on this so-called "Democratic" board.
What an ugly joke.
Number23
(24,544 posts)That I thought the environment here wasn't good for her. But now I wish she WOULD come back.
She enjoys pointing out the Godzilla-sized holes in these people's knowledge and logic. She laughs in their damn faces when they try to act as though they're smarter than she is. I think dealing with bravenak is probably the best thing for these people and I hope they get another dose of her asap.
betsuni
(25,711 posts)It's extremely fun to watch them being teased because they take themselves so seriously, I will miss that entertainment.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)So prevalent everywhere!
ladjf
(17,320 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Everyone is in agreement that there in a segment of white DU (read: progressives/Bernie supporters) intent on silencing Number23, and any other Black DUer that doesn't support enthusiastically enough Bernie and/or speaks out on race issues without citing to Bernie as our savior.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Just the first link made me well remember why I trashed GD: P.
Thanks for wading in there, 23. Somehow I picture that garbage muck in the original Star Wars.....
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I am sick of seeing my friends in this group getting hides so they can get a time out