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(1,663 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:01 AM Aug 2018

Uncle Ben Strikes Again!

My childhood hero disappoints again. The following article can be found @ www.newsone.com.

Ben Carson Is Trying To Make Housing In America As Segregated As Possible

The heartless secretary of HUD strikes again.
Written By Parker Riley

Ben Carson has officially taken the steps to make housing as segregated as possible in America. Until now, he was blocking the July 2015 Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule, which was to ensure neighborhoods were not segregated. Now Carson wants to completely dismantle the rule.


Under the Obama administration, with Julian Castro as the secretary of Housing and Urban Development, the 2015 rule required more than “1,200 communities receiving billions of federal housing dollars to draft plans to desegregate their communities — or risk losing federal funds,” according to The Washington Post. This rule was necessary considering studies have shown that when neighborhoods are segregated, Black and brown communities receive less funding and fewer resources.

However, it would seem that Carson couldn’t care less about Black and brown communities receiving less. He released a statement on Monday claiming the rule was “suffocating investment” and “we can craft a new, fairer rule.” Now word on what the “fairer” rule would be.

In May, fair-housing advocates filed a lawsuit against Carson, claiming that he “unlawfully suspended the 2015 rule by not providing advance public notice or opportunity for comment.”

link to article: https://newsone.com/3821764/ben-carson-housing-segregation-america/
I had to add the waving gif .....because...... reasons. Hell, I like gifs!

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Uncle Ben Strikes Again! (Original Post) spicysista Aug 2018 OP
Anyone else think he looks like Tiger Woods but about 15 years older? mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #1
It's not as hard as you think. spicysista Aug 2018 #4
He is such a tool. laserhaas Aug 2018 #2
Trump 101 policy move in 5 easy steps. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #3
Yup! That's it. nt. spicysista Aug 2018 #7
I will never understand stuff like this radical noodle Aug 2018 #5
IDK. I'm just kinda hurt about it all. spicysista Aug 2018 #6
A lot of people looked up to him radical noodle Aug 2018 #8
So strange that I think he's being controlled by MKUltra or somebody. Kind of Blue Aug 2018 #9
I can't believe it's the same person either, Blue. spicysista Aug 2018 #10


(33,643 posts)
1. Anyone else think he looks like Tiger Woods but about 15 years older?
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:32 AM
Aug 2018

Screw You, Ben Carson!

That said, how do you make communities desegregate? It's not like we still have Jim Crow laws, so what exactly are these communities expected to do here?


(1,663 posts)
4. It's not as hard as you think.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:02 PM
Aug 2018

Think redlining, but on a government level.
In my home city, blacks and whites on Section 8 housing were always separated. The nicer/newer section 8 housing was reserved for whites while the older houses scattered throughout the inner city (usually rent properties that were picked up in bank foreclosure bundles) were almost all black. They were even discriminating against allowing black homeowners to be a part of the section 8 housing program. In other words, you had a harder time being able to make your property a part of the section 8 program, if you were black. If you were lucky enough to get a nice house in a nicer area, local LEO made your life hell. Check excepts below for the receipts.

From the Atlantic:
The failings of Section 8 go far beyond flaws in how the program was designed to how the the states have implemented it. People can argue all they want about the merits of subsidized housing, but given that Section 8 exists, it would seem advantageous for states and municipalities to take advantage of federal funds to help families find better housing. But many states seem especially determined to keep voucher-holders in areas of concentrated poverty.

“The whole idea of Section 8 in the beginning was that it was going to allow people to get out of the ghetto,” said Mike Daniel, a lawyer for the Inclusive Communities Project, told me. (Daniel has sued HUD over the way it is carrying out the program in Dallas.) “But there’s tremendous political pressure on housing authorities and HUD to not let it become an instrument of desegregation.”

Full article found here: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/06/section-8-is-failing/396650/

From the Antelope Valley Times:

According to the Justice Department’s complaint, the cities of Palmdale and Lancaster between 2004 and 2011 initiated and teamed with the Housing Authority and the sheriff’s department in a “targeted campaign of discriminatory enforcement against African-American voucher holders in order to discourage and exclude them and other African-American from living in the cities.”

Full article here: http://theavtimes.com/2015/07/25/community-group-speaks-out-on-2-million-settlement-of-section-8-discrimination-case/

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
3. Trump 101 policy move in 5 easy steps.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:30 AM
Aug 2018

1) Undo a policy the Obama administration enacted that most didn't even know about.

2) Don't bother to have a plan or law ready to take the place of what they ended.

3) Then say you'll craft an even better, fairer, etc. policy soon.

4) Never release or write said better or fairer policy.

5) Hope the daily shit storm of bad news coming from Donny will prevent people from being outraged.


(1,663 posts)
6. IDK. I'm just kinda hurt about it all.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:09 PM
Aug 2018

I used to look up to this man. My mom has removed his picture from her Sunday School class wall. Such a disappointment.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
8. A lot of people looked up to him
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:37 PM
Aug 2018

as a role model. He's lost all the respect they had for him. Disappointing and a little sad.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
9. So strange that I think he's being controlled by MKUltra or somebody.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 07:26 PM
Aug 2018

Here's the Ben Carson I used to love for his knowledge and assessements. I've had this video bookmarked for years and watch occasionally because I still can't believe he's the same person.



(1,663 posts)
10. I can't believe it's the same person either, Blue.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 07:38 PM
Aug 2018

To listen to him in this clip makes me think of "pod people". How is this the same person? Thanks for the awesome clip....from happier days.

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