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True Dough
(17,303 posts)the Desert Knights. That name is already spoken for.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)
GWC58
(2,678 posts)LV Raiders doesn't sound as great as Oakland Raiders, or even LA Raiders. Sorry for your loss, Oakland! What next, the A's are going to skip town?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Is somehow locked.out of the deal
Like to see truly evil people unhappy
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Bank of America replaced him, so, still crooks. 
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Trump's double
the A's are safe thankfully (no pun intended). Lew Wolff (who was the person who wanted the A's to move) is gone, and John Fisher and David Kaval have been researching several potential locations for a new ballpark right in Oakland. They're willing to privately finance a new stadium unlike the Raiders, and have come up with Oakland-centric advertising now.
Hokie
(4,286 posts)The NFL once again screws a city that won't pay a bribe of hundreds of millions in public money to keep a franchise. Welcome to the club Oakland. Join San Diego and St. Louis.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Over the years. No wonder people hate the NFL
Hokie
(4,286 posts)I think the Raiders have to play in Oakland at least one more year and maybe two. I remember when Art Modell announced with one game left that the Browns were leaving Cleveland for Baltimore in 1995 the fans at the final home game ripped up rows of seats in the old Cleveland Municipal Stadium and tossed them on the field.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)There's nothing currently in Vegas where they could play, the largest is the UNLV stadium which is tiny compared to most universities.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)going to be a lot of fans in Oakland dressed like empty seats.
it does seem fairly easy to re-locate an NFL franchise. How many in the last 35 years?! Too many. Since 1972 only 2 MLB franchises shifted, both involving Washington, DC, the Senators to Texas (Rangers) & the Expos to D.C. (Nationals).
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I don't know how but I believe it seeing how greedy Goodell and his cohorts are
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)They get a huge subsidy and collect all of the revenue and other benefits from the sweetheart deal. Plus all of the revenue generating amnesties. More MLB teams would have relocated if they didn't have a sweetheart deal. The Marlins explored the idea of moving to Vegas.
Marlins President Calls Miamians Stupid, Jose Reyes Greedy
If you know anything about the sweetheart deal the city gave the Marlins to build a new stadium, you know team president David Samson basically bent Miami over a pinball machine and had his way with it. But he's far from done with the humiliation—with his remarks to a gathering of local business leaders yesterday, Samson essentially tossed Miami five bucks for cab fare and told it to clean itself up.
"I don't have to hold back now that the stadium is built," Samson told the Beacon Council, adding "we're not the smartest people in Miami. If you're in this room, you're instantly in the top 1%."
Samson recalled his meetings with officials in San Antonio and Las Vegas in exploratory efforts to move the team, and pretty much admitted that selling tickets is more important than having good fans.
If the Marlins were to move to Las Vegas, Mr. Samson said, he suggested the casinos there buy out game tickets in advance so nobody would be drawn away from the casinos.
"We don't care if nobody comes," Mr. Samson recalled with a smile. "We'll play in front of nobody, and we'll have all the money."
http://deadspin.com/5891292/marlins-president-calls-miamians-stupid-jose-reyes-greedy
The simple reason is this: There is a huge demand from cities to host a professional sports franchise but only a fixed supply of teams. This gives them enormous leverage over cities which normally would be an antitrust violation if taxpayers were considered consumers. I believe the precedent stems from a case where someone objected over tax dollars used to purchase ammunition (or something similar) where it was ruled taxpayers cannot be considered consumers.
On a side note the era of multipurpose stadiums was a waste. Terrible sightlines for all sports and they have all been torn downed or replaced costing cities/counties/states a fortune at the expense of infrastructure, schools, jobs, etc.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)someone my age is going to feel about their favorite team skipping town, comes back, only to skip town again.
I know what it's like to lose a pro football franchise. March 28, 1984 is a day I'll not forget, a snowy night. The Baltimore Colts slipped out of town, under the cover of darkness, no less, heading for Indianapolis. It was a gut punch for sure!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Them back the first time. AL Davis was so awful you had to think he'd pull it again. ..he didn't, but his son did
msongs
(67,400 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)We have enough already!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:09 PM - Edit history (2)
has taught me anything, it's that loyalty doesn't mean a thing in the NFL. Only one owner voted against this move. As passionate as Oakland fans are known for being and despite the sellouts the Raiders enjoyed in up and down years, we still are about to have our team taken away. If this can happen to us, no telling who might be next to abandon their local fans. No team is safe aside from the Packers. 16 years of me being a Raider fan has gone down the drain.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)You'd think a place where they succeed would count for something
GWC58
(2,678 posts)you'd think that it would. This $$$$ is what the NFL is all about. Fan layalty doesn't make enough bucks for them! Maybe it should be the NFFL (never for fan loyalty). I'm sure someone could come up with something a little better than my pithy attempt at gallows humor.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Hnm. Not better
