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cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:40 PM Nov 2013

Snail Kite heaven: Lake Kissimmee, Florida

Last edited Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:57 PM - Edit history (1)

For those that want to see and photograph Snail Kites, as far as I know, the best place to visit is Lake Kissimmee in central Florida.

Lake Kissimmee and Joe Overstreet Rd that leads to the east shore of the lake is a popular birding area. A major prize of the area is the Snail Kite which breeds around the lake. Often you can see the Snail Kites from the shore by the end of Joe Overstreet Rd. I took the last four Snail Kite pictures there this summer of one that was hanging around the dock at that time. Usually you're not that lucky.

To get better looks, take the airboat ride from the company that operates at the end of Joe Overstreet Rd and ask them to take you to see the Snail Kites. You can get really close to the kites from the boat:

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At least right now, there are a lot of Snail Kites on the lake. There is a huge population of snails in the lake so the kites should be reliable for a while. The kites do move around central and southern Florida, but the airboat operator told me that Lake Kissimmee currently has the largest population.

The first three Snail Kite pictures I took from the airboat on November 17, and the last four I took this summer of a kite that was hunting around the dock. The Bald Eagle and the other snail hunting specialists, the Limpkin, I took on November 17 from the lakeshore by the dock:

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Snail Kite heaven: Lake Kissimmee, Florida (Original Post) cpwm17 Nov 2013 OP
Nice pictures. But how big are those snails? They look huge! postulater Nov 2013 #1
You're right about those snails cpwm17 Nov 2013 #2
Do the kites stay there all winter? csziggy Nov 2013 #3
They'll probably be there this winter cpwm17 Nov 2013 #4
Thanks - this may be my husband's birthday present! csziggy Nov 2013 #5
I might try another airboat ride late next month cpwm17 Nov 2013 #6
I'll keep my eyes open for your pictures! csziggy Nov 2013 #7
On Sunday I drove by Lake Kissimmee cpwm17 Nov 2013 #10
Looks like most hunting periods will NOT be when we'll be there! csziggy Nov 2013 #11
Great, it looks like you'll have no problems cpwm17 Nov 2013 #12
I may call while I'm down there next week csziggy Nov 2013 #13
Beautiful! locks Nov 2013 #8
Thank you cpwm17 Nov 2013 #9
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
2. You're right about those snails
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:24 PM
Nov 2013

I've never seen such large snails before. The airboat operator said that there are also some invasive snails in the lake. I think he meant the large snails. The kites don't mind.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
3. Do the kites stay there all winter?
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:14 PM
Nov 2013

Great pictures!

We usually go down to Central Florida towards the end of January to get in some bird watching. My Mom lives in Bartow so Lake Kissimmee wouldn't very far away. Now that Mom is alone (other than her caretakers) I'm trying to visit as often as possible so I want to find places near her where my husband can get his birthday present of birdwatching.

I'd thought about going to the Kissimmee Cow Camp - last time we were there, my husband got a picture of a Florida Scrub Jay. But the lake is just east of there!

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
4. They'll probably be there this winter
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:34 PM
Nov 2013

From what I understand the Snail Kites move around to where there is food, rather than having any particular migratory pattern. I'm not completely sure about their movements.

More often than not I've missed them when I've just gone to the end of Joe Overstreet Rd and watched for them to fly by. But I don't wait around very long. But the last two times (late summer and a few days ago) I've seen them from the end of the road. The airboat ride I took a few days ago was my first such attempt. It didn't take long to start seeing them. I'm sure you'll see them if you take an airboat ride this winter. I saw 1/2 dozen kites and we only covered a fraction of the lake.

Ask to see Snail Kites specifically. If you join other tourists you'll spend most of your time watching alligators.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
5. Thanks - this may be my husband's birthday present!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:33 PM
Nov 2013

When we were in Naples a couple of years ago he wanted to do an airboat tour in the Everglades. I vetoed it - not in September of a hot year with no cold weather to slow down the bugs! They don't bite him but I get eaten alive. January is the better time to do it, IMO.

How expensive is the airboat? ETA never mind - I found their web site. Not too bad considering tourist prices in that area.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
6. I might try another airboat ride late next month
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:35 PM
Nov 2013

I need good pictures of an adult male Snail Kite. I'll post my results if I go.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
10. On Sunday I drove by Lake Kissimmee
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 03:28 PM
Nov 2013

and it's obviously hunting season. I heard a lot of gunfire. I'm glad I did the airboat ride the previous week.

For a more pleasant visit you may want to wait until after hunting season (not sure when) to do a trip if you can, though I assume you could go during hunting. I won't have a chance to take another airboat ride until May or June since I don't want to go during hunting this Fall or Winter.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
11. Looks like most hunting periods will NOT be when we'll be there!
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 03:57 PM
Nov 2013
http://myfwc.com/hunting/season-dates/

Deer and some other game seasons would be in effect, but:

http://myfwc.com/media/2657128/MigratoryGameBird-Regulations.pdf
First Phase: Nov. 23 – Dec. 1, 2013
Second Phase: Dec. 7, 2013 – Jan. 26, 2014

We'd be down the last week of January - my husband's birthday is the 30th, so we'll just miss it.

When we visited Merritt Island NWR, it was the week after the season ended and the ducks were still really skittish, though we still got to see a lot of them, especially in the wetlands along the roads where hunting was not permitted. Most other birds were OK and we got lots of pictures.

Birds are pretty smart about hunters. Way back after we'd been on our farm for a few years and didn't allow hunting, a guy bought the land next to us and planted millet and corn to attract doves. During the season he'd go out before dawn to try to shoot doves - and not see a one. Meanwhile, they'd be roosting in the trees and on the wires, waiting for him to leave so they could go back and dine on the bounty he provided. He'd leave and see hundreds of doves on our property - it frustrated him no end.

Our wildlife population doubles as soon as hunting season begins - we still allow only limited hunting. One young man, and he only takes one or two old does a year to help manage the population. We had so many deer they were no longer healthy, so this is good.
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
12. Great, it looks like you'll have no problems
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:22 AM
Nov 2013

You could possibly try to verify with the airboat company that the kites are still being seen before you go. At least the airboat operator that I went with is very familiar with them.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
13. I may call while I'm down there next week
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:24 AM
Nov 2013

And I can check before we go in January. If nothing else, my husband would enjoy the airboat ride and even if there are no snail kites, there would be other birds.

Thanks!

locks

(2,012 posts)
8. Beautiful!
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:16 PM
Nov 2013

I think I saw a snail kite sailing around in New Orleans last May when I was there. It stayed for a couple hours. Does this sound right?

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
9. Thank you
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:31 PM
Nov 2013

They are widespread throughout much of the tropics in North and South America, but in the US they are only in Florida:

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