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JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:56 AM Jan 2019

The stupidest reason I've ever heard

John Harbaugh left a rookie quarterback in the game after he dropped the ball three times, threw an interception and was held without a score. He had a Super Bowl winning quarterback on his bench and didn’t use him. He later explained that he did this because the kid "is the future of the team.” Stupid. He's a rookie. If he's the future of the team, let him play in the future when he's learned how to handle the pressure.

Compare this with Nick Saban who, unlike Harbaugh, has an IQ higher than room temperature. His quarterback this year, leading them to an undefeated season and a berth in the national championship, was pulled from last years’ championship game at halftime due to poor performance.

He was quarterback of the future of the Crimson Tide, but for Nick Saban the team is more important than the individual and Tua wasn’t winning for the team. It obviously didn’t harm him, just look at his play this year, and pulling him from the game won his team the championship.

John Harbaugh placed the feelings of his quarterback as more important than giving his team an opportunity to win the Super Bowl, which is stupid. The team is stupid enough to thank him for doing it, and the media is stupid enough to applaud it.

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The stupidest reason I've ever heard (Original Post) JayhawkSD Jan 2019 OP
What would Flacco have been able to do? underpants Jan 2019 #1
Your point is well made. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #3
It was an interesting position to be in underpants Jan 2019 #8
Close only counts in horse shoes and hand granades. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #10
You've got your analogy completely wrong. Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #2
Well, that's embarrassing. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #5
That's true! Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #9
Which speaks to Jason Hurts character. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #11
We're LSU Tigers at our house Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #12
Then you will enjoy this little anecdote. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #13
I would not put so much credence in what a football coach says after the game RockRaven Jan 2019 #4
Good point. nt JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #6
Plus Harbaugh just got a contract extension underpants Jan 2019 #7

underpants

(182,879 posts)
1. What would Flacco have been able to do?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jan 2019

Under that pass rush I’d prefer a mobile QB.

Jackson is the primary reason they were in the playoffs to begin with.

They got out played across the board.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
3. Your point is well made.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jan 2019

The Chargers are a very well coached team. They've had a lot of talent for some years, but Anthony Lynn is the head coach they've been looking for since Bobby Beatherd left. I have little doubt the Philip Rivers will finally beat Tom Brady this coming weekend. I think they have a shot at winning a Super Bowl.

So, no, it probably would not have changed the outcome, but that is not what I was saying. The kid had choked. He clearly was over his head, and Harbaugh owed it to his team to give them their best shot at winning. The rookie clearly was not it, and in placing the feelings of one player as paramount, he was doing the wrong thing for his team.

"Jackson is the primary reason they were in the playoffs to begin with." Just as Tua was a big part of why Alabama was in the championship. But past performance is not what wins games, present performance wins games, and if it isn't there the player needs to be replaced.

underpants

(182,879 posts)
8. It was an interesting position to be in
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:31 PM
Jan 2019

As I said below Harbaugh just got a contract extension so that takes a lot of pressure off.

Usually yanking a QB means a precipitous drop in talent but not with Flacco - I think he’s actually underrated.



I think Jackson might bring with him support or energy from the team Flacco doesn’t. I obviously don’t know.

Yes Jackson played poorly but he got close to winning even then.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand granades.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jan 2019

And he got the touchdowns in "garbage time."

The Chargers were leading by three touchdowns and had the attitude of, "We don't care if you score a touchdown as long as it takes you six minutes to do it." Which, of course, it did. They had four defensive backs lined up twenty yards from the line of scrimmage.

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
2. You've got your analogy completely wrong.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jan 2019

Jalen Hurts started for Alabama and was playing terrible. Tua started the second half and won the game for Alabama. Tua was never pulled from the game and he went on the lead the team this year because of that performance.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
5. Well, that's embarrassing.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jan 2019

Although based on what I know of Nick Saban, I'd say that "he went on the lead the team this year because of that performance" is probably a bit off the mark. I'd say he went on to lead the team this year because he was the better player this year.

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
9. That's true!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jan 2019

The irony is, Tua got hurt during the SEC championship game this year and in walks Jalen Hurts to save Alabama's season in a strange twist of fate...also against Georgia

Edit to add:

Harbaugh is an idiot

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
11. Which speaks to Jason Hurts character.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jan 2019

And to the nature of Nick Saban teams and players. There is a reason his players get drafted high, and it's not just on their physical ability.

And no, I'm actually an LSU fan. I bleed purple when cut. I just admire quality when I see it.

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
12. We're LSU Tigers at our house
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:07 PM
Jan 2019

As much as I'd love to hate on Saban, it's hard not to be impressed with his teams year in and year out.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
13. Then you will enjoy this little anecdote.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jan 2019

My best friend when I lived in Atlanta was a third generation Auburn graduate, and his son was already committed to go to Auburn as fourth generation. For three years running I went to his house to watch the Iron Bowl with them, and each time wore a Crimson Tide jersey.

The fact that a) I survived and that b) I was able to do it three times is a testament to the strength of our friendship.

RockRaven

(14,998 posts)
4. I would not put so much credence in what a football coach says after the game
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:13 PM
Jan 2019

to explain why he or she did what they did during the game. I would take what they say neither literally nor seriously.

By that point, the game is over, it's outcome beyond reach of any influence or change, and new priorities are already in play.

Sports media has so much interesting material they could cover, it is rather tiresome how much time they spend on soap opera/gossip and repeating/analyzing what people say. Kind of like political journalism actually.

underpants

(182,879 posts)
7. Plus Harbaugh just got a contract extension
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jan 2019

Yes he wants to win but his (supposedly collective) decision may have been different without the parachute.

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