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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:27 AM Jan 2014

Ian Barbour, Who Found a Balance Between Faith and Science, Dies at 90

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/13/us/ian-barbour-academic-who-resisted-conflicts-of-faith-and-science-dies-at-90.html

By WILLIAM YARDLEY
JAN. 12, 2014


Ian Barbour, right, who had physics and divinity degrees, with Sir John Templeton after winning the Templeton Prize in 1999. Marty Lederhandler/Associated Press

Ian Barbour first studied science, then religion, but instead of concluding that the two are in eternal conflict, he helped create an academic realm where they share common ground.

Dr. Barbour, who was 90 when he died on Dec. 24 in Minneapolis, earned a doctorate in physics at the University of Chicago and then a divinity degree from Yale, and he never abandoned his passion for scientific exploration or his place in the pew. He embraced the complexities of evolution and the Big Bang theory, of genetics and neuroscience. He also embraced Christianity. He was a devoted parishioner at First United Church of Christ in Northfield, Minn.

In 1999, when he won the Templeton Prize, a prestigious award given annually to “a living person who has made exceptional contributions to affirming life’s spiritual dimension,” he said it was missing the point to focus on the supremacy of one over the other, to read either religious texts or scientific findings as comprehensive in their capacity to explain existence.

“If we take the Bible seriously but not literally,” he said in his acceptance address, “we can accept the central biblical message without accepting the prescientific cosmology in which it was expressed, such as the three-layer universe with heaven above and hell below, or the seven days of the creation story.”

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Ian Barbour, Who Found a Balance Between Faith and Science, Dies at 90 (Original Post) cbayer Jan 2014 OP
Worth noting is that the "balance" he found... trotsky Jan 2014 #1
Even as he admits that something is missing in his Religion; an accurate cosmology etc. Brettongarcia Jan 2014 #2
"... he said it was missing the point to focus on the supremacy of one over the other ..." struggle4progress Jan 2014 #4
Read the very next paragraph. trotsky Jan 2014 #6
civilizations were built on both science and religion madrchsod Jan 2014 #3
I agree with you. cbayer Jan 2014 #5

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. Worth noting is that the "balance" he found...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jan 2014

was realizing that when they do conflict, religion must yield to science.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
2. Even as he admits that something is missing in his Religion; an accurate cosmology etc.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 01:57 PM
Jan 2014

So that Religion as he embraced it, is not quite enough to fully live by; it misses some key things.

He's right about one thing: it needs Science to help it out.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
4. "... he said it was missing the point to focus on the supremacy of one over the other ..."
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jan 2014

So mebbe, despite your claim, he didn't conclude religion must yield to science

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Read the very next paragraph.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jan 2014

"Mebbe" he's saying that, but he clearly means otherwise. He's discarding biblical information that does not comply with scientific knowledge, thus demonstrating that when in conflict, go with science.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. I agree with you.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jan 2014

While there can be areas of conflict, evolution being the prime example, I think they are in different spheres and even complementary at times.

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