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Men and women complete each other there's no other option, Pope says (Original Post) cleanhippie Apr 2015 OP
Hey, he can't be expected to change everything overnight, pal! Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #1
Best Pope Ever is a low bar. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #3
Yes, it's like saying "best infectious disease to get." Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #4
Hooray! I guess? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #5
If it walks like a bigot and quacks like a bigot... Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #2
Would that be a crocko-bigot? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #21
married priests the only option Freethinker65 Apr 2015 #6
Translation error! Translation error! trotsky Apr 2015 #7
What a bizarre statement. phil89 Apr 2015 #8
Well I like guys so... n/t. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #9
An odd statement from the head of an organization ruled by male celebates. BillZBubb Apr 2015 #10
Take Care nil desperandum Apr 2015 #11
Of course not skepticscott Apr 2015 #12
But this doesn't apply to priests, cardinals, popes etc? mr blur Apr 2015 #13
Horrors! The Pope spoke against sexism, against ideas about the inferiority of women, against struggle4progress Apr 2015 #14
I am so glad that somebody stepped up to defend homophobic and misogynistic bullshit. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #15
The Pope thinks marriage between a man and woman Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #16
The Pope promotes machismo... MellowDem Apr 2015 #18
This is the text of the entire Audience. rug Apr 2015 #17
It is interesting to see how people interpert it Lordquinton Apr 2015 #19
It's almost as if some see only what they want to see. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #20
And others discard facts and truth in the advancement of their prejudices. rug Apr 2015 #23
What do you see, Quinton? rug Apr 2015 #22
What do you see, is the real question Lordquinton Apr 2015 #24
You sound more than usually petiulant and defensive this fine day. rug Apr 2015 #25
And how would he know?? nruthie Apr 2015 #26
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. Hey, he can't be expected to change everything overnight, pal!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:14 AM
Apr 2015

Or, really, he can't be expected to change ... period. So, ya know, stop putting pressure on BestPopeEver!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Best Pope Ever is a low bar.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:21 AM
Apr 2015

It's still possible for him to be the best Pope yet, and still be horribly regressive on a number of topics.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. Translation error! Translation error!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

I believe that is the conditioned response from the pope fan club around here.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
10. An odd statement from the head of an organization ruled by male celebates.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:28 PM
Apr 2015

Does that mean the leadership is incomplete?

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
11. Take Care
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:44 PM
Apr 2015

you don't want to be going and using factual comments to point out obvious inconsistencies....you might be considered some sort of anti-religious bigot or something....

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
12. Of course not
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:06 PM
Apr 2015

They've got all those nuns on busses that they can only ignore at their peril to assume the separate but equal female leadership roles in the RCC.

Oh...wait..

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
13. But this doesn't apply to priests, cardinals, popes etc?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:17 PM
Apr 2015

What, they're already whole/complete?
They choose to go against the natural order of things?

And they wonder why we mock their ignorance, bigotry and stupidity.

struggle4progress

(118,701 posts)
14. Horrors! The Pope spoke against sexism, against ideas about the inferiority of women, against
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:35 PM
Apr 2015

the subjugation of women, against machismo!

And Horror of Horrors! The Pope thinks marriage is a good thing!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
15. I am so glad that somebody stepped up to defend homophobic and misogynistic bullshit.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:47 PM
Apr 2015

It would have been so disappointing otherwise.


This image, he said, should inspire all believers to make a commitment to defend the “vital and energizing” vocation of marriage and to protect the sacred union that God willed for men and women.


You do understand that he is re-affirming the RCC's opposition to LGBT equality, specifically to the legalization of same sex marriage. That is not a question. That is a statement of fact.

The question is why are you defending this?

As far as the subjugation of women is concerned, any institution that opposes access to birth control is an institution that is promoting the subjugation of women. But you do understand that too. So again, why are you defending this misogynistic crap?
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
16. The Pope thinks marriage between a man and woman
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:59 PM
Apr 2015

and ONLY between a man and woman is a good thing!

Do you feel like you need to take a hot shower after defending that homophobic bigot?

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
18. The Pope promotes machismo...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:41 PM
Apr 2015

sexism, and the subjugation of women while pretending to do the opposite. Sounds like the Republican candidates to me.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
19. It is interesting to see how people interpert it
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:16 AM
Apr 2015

like how some see it as a support of women, and miss that he's saying, in effect, that gay marrige is causing men to beat their wives.

Yet sin introduces discord into their relationship, lack of trust and suspicion. We see throughout history the fruit of this sin, especially towards women – oppression, violence and exploitation.


Sin introduces all that into god's creation of the covenant between men and women.

When the stable and fruitful covenant between a man and a woman is devalued by society, it is a loss for everyone, especially the young.


Breakdown in marriage hurts kids, so gay marriage is bad for kids.

I'm taking this in context with everything he has said about marriage, which has nothing to do with divorce or the like, and everything to do with gay marriage being against god's will.

It's plain as day to anyone.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
20. It's almost as if some see only what they want to see.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

To acknowledge the truth of the matter is just too uncomfortable.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
24. What do you see, is the real question
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:29 AM
Apr 2015

One you always refuse to answer, are you beliefs so fragile that you can't stand any questioning of them that you must viciously attack anyone who makes you think?

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