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(82,333 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:27 PM Apr 2012

Kentucky governor signs religious rights bill exempting Amish from longstanding traffic law

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, April 11, 12:45 PM

FRANKFORT, Ky. — Amish people in Kentucky will no longer have to use a bright orange reflective triangle on their horse-drawn buggies.

Gov. Steve Beshear signed a law Wednesday that lets them use gray or reflective tape instead to make sure other vehicles can see them at night.

The law was passed for members of the more conservative Schwartzentruber sect, who claim the triangle violates their religious rules because it represents the Holy Trinity and its flashy color calls attention to them.

Several Amish farmers in western Kentucky had served jail time for refusing to use the emblems.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/kentucky-governor-signs-religious-rights-bill-exempting-amish-from-longstanding-traffic-law/2012/04/11/gIQAFXShAT_story.html

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Kentucky governor signs religious rights bill exempting Amish from longstanding traffic law (Original Post) rug Apr 2012 OP
Good for him. Glad to see this resolved. cbayer Apr 2012 #1
We have a lot of Amish around here madokie Apr 2012 #2
funny how you never hear the "tax the fuel efficient car owners more" crowd mention zbdent Apr 2012 #6
Ridiculous maybe they need to stay off the road. gordianot Apr 2012 #3
Seems like a reasonable accomodation to me. leveymg Apr 2012 #4
Must be there proselytizing website. rug Apr 2012 #5
Because they don't play well with others madokie Apr 2012 #7
Good. Sounds reasonable. Jim__ Apr 2012 #8
Will he sign a religious rights bill for the safeinOhio Apr 2012 #9
Does this bill exempt noodles from sales tax for the Pastafarians? lastlib Apr 2012 #10
Even if he did (if you are referring to the use of pot) feds would step in The Straight Story Apr 2012 #11
I hope the tape works as well as the triangle. trotsky Apr 2012 #12

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. We have a lot of Amish around here
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:33 PM
Apr 2012

They pay no road taxes but yet they use our roads. How fair is that? The Mennonites whom we also have a lot of, drive tractors on our roads yet they pay no taxes on the fuel or the tires they wear out going to and from. How fair is that? If you hire either to work for you they'd rather you pay in cash but if you pay with a check they simply give the check to their church, the church deposits it and in turn give them back all but Gods share, 10%. How fair is that I ask?

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
6. funny how you never hear the "tax the fuel efficient car owners more" crowd mention
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:11 PM
Apr 2012

the Amish ...

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. Seems like a reasonable accomodation to me.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:42 PM
Apr 2012

I've wondered why there seems to be so much anger at the Amish (not to mention one Angry Amish) at DU. What gives?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. Because they don't play well with others
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:23 PM
Apr 2012

Years ago I subcontracted construction work and I'd be competing with the Amish and Mennonites and trust me when I say this. Whenever I was bidding against them I always lost. I won't work for nothing so that was part of it but the real reason I'd lose is because they could bid lower cause they don't pay any taxes on their earnings.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
11. Even if he did (if you are referring to the use of pot) feds would step in
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:04 AM
Apr 2012

(rant is not directed at you BTW, just chose here to reply)

Also, in the case of the Amish, they were here before cars and have 'in writing' (if you will) a very ancient document that they have followed for a very long time which has become a part of their inherent culture and everyday way of life (and for the record, pot and other things should be legal as well and in some cases things like peyote are).

Centuries old cultures built around certain religious ideals and practices that have barely changed have a bit more of a leg to stand on than someone who creates a new 'religion' today.

Of course, some will ask 'Why?' in an attempt to make some sort of a point or to be cute. History and culture matter and when folks have been living a certain way for centuries and you want to make them change their culture (when there are, as in this case, alternatives) does not seem at all progressive to me.

They wanted to comply with the law AND their beliefs and a middle ground that accomplished both was found.

Not sure why this should be upsetting to big tent people who want all of our brethren to be able to have their beliefs and culture remain and also keep things working for us all (ie, the roads and keeping people safe).

Preserving culture, a way of life that is different than ours - that is something I would think we could all get behind; unlike the Europeans who decided to 'save' the Indians and destroy their culture as savage - something I think some folks on DU would love to do to some folks who don't believe as they do. On here we get to bash all those barbaric idiots who believe in sky fairies, ridicule them (whether they be jew, christian, indian, etc) and see people who hope that someday all of that is wiped out so that we can save those savages from being different than us.

The big tent seems to have shrunk a lot from when I first came here and the word tolerance seems to have eroded to the point that it means "tolerant only for people who think and act like me".

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. I hope the tape works as well as the triangle.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:13 AM
Apr 2012

If not, this was not a good compromise. Safety on public roads is more important than anyone's religion.

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