Dusty Smith’s smack down of liberals who defend Islam

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By James Kirk Wall, Thursday at 8:37 pm

There’s a nice way to say something and a not so nice way to say something. I try to put things nicely; I try to be professional. Often I’m accused of not being nice when in reality I’m holding back big time. And then there’s Dusty who doesn’t hold back at all. I often find this refreshing. Holding back on people defending religious hatred and ignorance can be exhausting.

What’s even more exasperating than having arguments with religious people who have been brainwashed since childhood to defend insanity is when fellow atheists act like hypocrites when Islam is criticized. These people can participate in ridiculing Christianity all day long, and then get all bent out of shape when someone mentions Islam.

Islam is the greatest threat to individual rights and liberties today, especially for homosexuals. What Christianity did 300 years ago doesn’t change this fact, it’s completely irrelevant to this issue.

Dusty Smith’s not so nice message to liberals defending Islam

Reason Rally 2016 was a disappointment with attendance. Perhaps it was because atheists are being too nice. Perhaps we’re holding back too much. Perhaps we need to go Dusty style. Why is it that when atheists bring up the ignorance and hatred in religious text (ex. murder, slavery, torturing people forever), we’re treated like we’re the ones who wrote it? If it wasn’t there, we wouldn’t be able to bring it up.

http://www.chicagonow.com/an-atheist-in-illinois/2016/06/dusty-smiths-smack-down-of-liberals-who-defend-islam/

"liberals defending Islam"

"Obama chick"

"pansy ass liberals"

There are way too many people who peddle this crap.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/04/28/you-really-are-just-being-racist-here/

[Elmergantry]

1. +1

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2. Dusty Smith is the Dice Clay of internet atheism.

[Elmergantry]

3. lm christian but i agree

That cartoon he presented was priceless

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4. He has a point. I made a similar rant on Kos, though I tried to be an equal opportunity asshole.

I'll go ahead and post my entire rant in its own top-level thread, but the link is here.

I'm fed up with toxic religion poisoning society against the LGBTQIA community.

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6. He's a nonliberal and sexist asshole.

I read your Kos article. Assuming religion poisons everything, how do you explain homophobia in China?

You are not saying that without religion there is no homophobia, are you?

[backscatter712]

7. I never said that religion is the only driver of homophobia.

Religion is a very large, well-organized, and systematic driver of homophobia. Sure there are other drivers of homophobia out there, but religion is a big one.

So don't dodge responsibility.

We live in a world where countless thousands of pastors, mullahs, priests, imams, and ministers go into the pulpits of their places of worship every single week, and teach a toxic lesson to their worshipers. A lesson that is mandated all the way through leadership hierarchies from the very top. "God hates queers".

And as long as that lesson is taught by thousands, to millions of worshippers, who go out and poison society, and make life hell for the LGBTQIA community, riding under the excuse of "God said so", religion is a huge part of the bigotry problem.

Do not deny this.

You'll excuse me for being completely hostile. Orlando was the last straw. I'm fed up with letting religiously-organized bigotry slide.

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8. That's all well and good but you run the risk of two things.

One, you fall into the trap of believing that "religion", a very large, complex and diverse thing, is inherently homophobic.

Two, you ignore other major factors that drive homophobia, both outside of and through religion.

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11. Indeed. Would "I'm fed up with people defending the homophobia on the Left" be an appropriate

article to attack people who say that laws against homosexuality in Communist countries don't define the opinion of the Left on LGBT rights?

[backscatter712]

5. After Orlando, my attitude towards religion is like how the religious think of LGBTQIA people

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From now on, it's "Love the religious, hate the religion."

Christianity and Islam are toxic. And the rot goes all the way to the top. The very highest leaders demand homophobia of worshippers, and thousands of imams, priests, mullahs, ministers, pastors, and other religious leaders in funny hats go into their pulpits in their mosques, churches, and other places of worship, and preach homophobia to millions of worshippers every week of every year. And then those worshippers go out and spread the rot into society at large.

Is it any wonder that society has been so hostile to the gay community?

So, to the religious people on this board, I understand, there's plenty of chill religious people out there.

But...

I love Christians, but hate Christianity.

I love Muslims, but hate Islam.

[edhopper]

10. That is

a good way to look at it.

Saying Islamic countries are barbaric, doesn't mean the population is.
It's the leaders that perpetuate the Islamic horror that are to blame.
I think the people of Iran (for one) are so much more liberal, forward looking and tolerant than their
religious hateful leaders are.
I've said it before
Islam is in desperate need of an Enlightenment.

[struggle4progress]

9. I was able to listen for about 60 seconds