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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:13 AM Jul 2017

Why don't creationists get challenged over the "missing link" in creationism?

A famous challenge to evolution is demanding proof that there indeed is an archaeological connection between two species. To prove the connection, you must prove that there was a species that was half-way between them: the "missing link".



But why is nobody challenging creationists to do the same?
Humans come from Adam and Eve? Well, where's the missing link that connects us to Adam and Eve? How come creationists don't get challenged to prove the chain of descendance the same way evolutionists get challenged to prove the chain of descendance?

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Why don't creationists get challenged over the "missing link" in creationism? (Original Post) DetlefK Jul 2017 OP
They don't care. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #1
I like to bring up Eve safeinOhio Jul 2017 #2
and how was it that her children could marry each other and reproduce Merlot Jul 2017 #5
Incest does not guarantee birth defects. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #6
It wouldn't be one case of incest, it would be every person Merlot Jul 2017 #8
Look around. :-) Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #9
They have proof. It's called the bible. LakeArenal Jul 2017 #3
You're using logic?! PJMcK Jul 2017 #4
From Earth comes Life. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #7
So you're backing up creationism? Lordquinton Jul 2017 #11
You missed the point completely. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #14
You had no point Lordquinton Jul 2017 #21
My reply to you was my point. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #24
Oh, *we* need to research something? Thats rich. AtheistCrusader Jul 2017 #12
Not according to my Bio 101 text book. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2017 #13
The poster made a point about Adam and Eve. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #15
You responded with useless pseudoprofundity. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2017 #16
That you totally missed my point speaks to your lack of understanding. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #17
I know what an archtype is. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2017 #18
We must agree to disagree. guillaumeb Jul 2017 #19
For some, finding an absurd proposition agreeable is quite difficult. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2017 #20
And some must ignore the clear meaning of the archetypes used in support of their own guillaumeb Jul 2017 #23
They don't have to play by the same rules. trotsky Jul 2017 #10
There would not be a missing link between us and Adam and Eve DavidDvorkin Jul 2017 #22

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
2. I like to bring up Eve
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jul 2017

Was she a clone made from Adams rib DNA and the did she have gender reassignment surgery to become a female?
Stump the chump.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
5. and how was it that her children could marry each other and reproduce
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jul 2017

without abnormalties?

4th grade biology class debunks the adam and eve story. No wonder those religious folks are anti education.

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
6. Incest does not guarantee birth defects.
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 01:58 PM
Jul 2017

It just increases the likelihood. But it is irrelevant as as is the ops argument. If your theory is god did it you don't need logic reason or evidence. If your theory is instead based on logic reason and empirical evidence then it is entirely fair to point out any evidential gaps in your theory, in fact that is an essential part of the scientific proces.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
8. It wouldn't be one case of incest, it would be every person
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 08:50 PM
Jul 2017

her kids, her grand kids, etc. Everyone would be reproducing from the same stock. That eventually causes problems.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. You missed the point completely.
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jul 2017

Why is it that Biblical literalists and (apparently) some atheists insist on a literal reading of the Bible? An interesting commonality.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
21. You had no point
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jul 2017

You made a vague statement and when called on it you put it on others to do the work required to make whatever point you were getting at.

So what is your point? Supporting creationists?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
16. You responded with useless pseudoprofundity.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jul 2017

Not wholly unsurprising, of course. Theists often cook up irrelevant word salads when trying to overlap the magesteria.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
17. That you totally missed my point speaks to your lack of understanding.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:55 PM
Jul 2017

I suggest researching the term "archetypes" and applying what you learn to what I stated.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
18. I know what an archtype is.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jul 2017

I also know that being poetic doesn't excuse being wrong. Whether literal or symbolic, the story attempts to explain the origin of human life. Whether taken literally or symbolically, it uniformly fails in this endeavor.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
23. And some must ignore the clear meaning of the archetypes used in support of their own
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jul 2017

non-theistic and possibly anti-theistic beliefs.

From my experience, the only people who love to insist on a literal interpretation of the Bible are literalist fundamentalists and some non-theists with an agenda.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. They don't have to play by the same rules.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 08:40 AM
Jul 2017

Remember - it's religion. Always getting special privileges.

DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
22. There would not be a missing link between us and Adam and Eve
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jul 2017

According to creationists, they were the same species as us. Therefore, there would be nothing between them and modern humans.

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