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I believe that everyone should be free to believe whatever they can believe. (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2017 OP
Everyone might have a right to any belief. but padfun Nov 2017 #1
Well, see, if they do those things, they aren't reciprocating. MineralMan Nov 2017 #3
I believe you are right FM123 Nov 2017 #2
the big issue is when their beliefs impede upon your choices and your life. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #4
Then there is no reciprocation. MineralMan Nov 2017 #5
We have lots of people freely believing dangerous horseshit Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #6
Do to others......etc? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #7
Yeah, Philosophers are pretty awesome. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #8
Party? Was there a party? eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #9
Everyone's already free to believe whatever they believe. Iggo Nov 2017 #10
We Australians believe you drive on the left. SwissTony Nov 2017 #11

padfun

(1,786 posts)
1. Everyone might have a right to any belief. but
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:26 AM
Nov 2017

they don't always have the right to act on it. Or to evade consequences of having said beliefs.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. Well, see, if they do those things, they aren't reciprocating.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:29 AM
Nov 2017

And if they're not doing that, then all bets are off, as far as I'm concerned.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. Then there is no reciprocation.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:33 AM
Nov 2017

Being free to believe whatever includes not being harassed for your beliefs nor being discriminated against because of them.

No reciprocation? No tolerance from me.

It's all really simple.

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
6. We have lots of people freely believing dangerous horseshit
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:44 PM
Nov 2017

So while abstractly I share this sentiment, in reality I am dubious that most people are “freely” believing anything, and I am fairly sure there are a whole lot of beliefs that need to be suppressed, although how is a bit of a puzzle.

An easy example: ant-vac horseshit.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. Yeah, Philosophers are pretty awesome.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:51 AM
Nov 2017

Perhaps you were thinking of a religious leader, but you'd be late to the party.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
11. We Australians believe you drive on the left.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 08:23 AM
Nov 2017

You are free to believe you should drive on the right,

Ok, I'm being silly. Which side of the road a country decides to choose isn't a belief, it's a convention aimed at maximising safety.

But Voltaire makes a valid point about anti-vaxxers. Their belief could have direct effects on others in society. And you can extend it to other beliefs. If homeopathy is covered under health care and someone undergoes that treatment, much of the cost is actually borne by non-believers.

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