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Related: About this forumWhy Roy Moore's Evangelical Supporters Wont Abandon Him
http://religiondispatches.org/why-roy-moores-evangelical-supporters-wont-abandon-him/...Incredulous observers wont be able to make sense of Moores supporters while seeing the allegations only in terms of inappropriate behavior, or even alleged statutory rape. They will miss the point that the problem is actually far more insidious; a feature, not a bug of this subculture.
...Many who embrace Biblical Patriarchy and Quiverfull came to the conclusion that contemporary dating practices are harmful to young people and sought to replace them with a system of courtship that occurs under the direction of a girls father. Courtship is intended to be specifically focused on finding a marriage partneralmost a pre-betrothal, if you will. Courtship happens in the context of a homeschooling family and community where boys are raised to be adventurous and economically self-sufficient with skills that might prove useful in a societal collapse, while girls are raised to be pure, meek, dependent and submissive with the goal of becoming appropriate help-meets in their future husbands exercise of dominion. Independence, autonomy, and self-sufficiency on the part of girls is seen as a (sinful) violation of feminine nature.
While most courtship seems to happen between young people of similar age, its easy to see how this particular set of gendered norms leads to significant age differences in marriageability. Men need to be self-sufficient, women should not be. In fact, once a girl can bear children she is old enough to be married and the longer she remains single the more likely she is to lose both her purity and her God-given femininity, and instead develop a sinful sense of herself as an independent person. The result is that 14-year-old girls are seen as appropriately courted by older men.
...In other words, older men perusing girls as young as 14 is a natural outcome of the gender values inextricably related to notions of male headship & female submission, promoted in this, the most extreme corner of conservative Protestantism that Moore inhabits. This is a corner of the conservative Christian subculture whose influence far exceeds its numbers and thats why this scandal wont lead evangelicals to abandon him as a candidate.
...Many who embrace Biblical Patriarchy and Quiverfull came to the conclusion that contemporary dating practices are harmful to young people and sought to replace them with a system of courtship that occurs under the direction of a girls father. Courtship is intended to be specifically focused on finding a marriage partneralmost a pre-betrothal, if you will. Courtship happens in the context of a homeschooling family and community where boys are raised to be adventurous and economically self-sufficient with skills that might prove useful in a societal collapse, while girls are raised to be pure, meek, dependent and submissive with the goal of becoming appropriate help-meets in their future husbands exercise of dominion. Independence, autonomy, and self-sufficiency on the part of girls is seen as a (sinful) violation of feminine nature.
While most courtship seems to happen between young people of similar age, its easy to see how this particular set of gendered norms leads to significant age differences in marriageability. Men need to be self-sufficient, women should not be. In fact, once a girl can bear children she is old enough to be married and the longer she remains single the more likely she is to lose both her purity and her God-given femininity, and instead develop a sinful sense of herself as an independent person. The result is that 14-year-old girls are seen as appropriately courted by older men.
...In other words, older men perusing girls as young as 14 is a natural outcome of the gender values inextricably related to notions of male headship & female submission, promoted in this, the most extreme corner of conservative Protestantism that Moore inhabits. This is a corner of the conservative Christian subculture whose influence far exceeds its numbers and thats why this scandal wont lead evangelicals to abandon him as a candidate.
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Why Roy Moore's Evangelical Supporters Wont Abandon Him (Original Post)
trotsky
Nov 2017
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calimary
(81,238 posts)1. I'm sorry, but my immediate thought upon reading the headline was
Last edited Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)
...because theyre doin it, too?
pbmus
(12,422 posts)2. So true....
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)3. Calimary For the Thread Win! (nt)
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)4. And if they aren't, they'd like to be.
What truly bothers me is the "sinful" thing about a woman becoming independent and thinking for herself. That bothers me a great deal.
The patriarchy being referred to is extremely toxic when it comes to women.
Help-meet my ass!